I'll remain a soldier until the war is won.
Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
TBH, it is actually directly stated in the Return that the Elites still believe in the Journey and the Forerunners' divinity. Its also directly stated their only religious issue is that they have no means of communicating with their gods without the Prophets.
It is? It has been nearly a year since I read Evolutions, please forgive me. Where abouts? This Shipmaster still holds the Forerunner in divinity I remember, but I do not remember him still believing in the Journey.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
He was right, they still believe, its just that they don't know what to do with their faith. Losing faith and not knowing what to do are two completely different things.
What is the truth of that belief in an absolute sense though? We know that the Forerunner are not divine; we know that the Journey is not anything spiritual, but rather a metaphor for the Forerunner exodus from this Galaxy. The path that the Shipmaster has chosen will lead him to the truth. The absolute truth would be a disaster to the Sangheili.
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I think we'll help them out. The UNSC must realize that the Elites totally saved our asses; we owe them a few favors.
O_o
Maybe it is just me, but the 23 billion Humans and dozens of ruined colonies speak otherwise. I would argue that the Elites have still not done enough to absolve themselves. They left only 200 million Humans alive. They virtually saved nothing with respect to what they destroyed.
No one deserves to be honored for doing what is blatantly expected of them. They claim to be honorable. Well, they finally did that. However it is something that they expect of themselves, so why should it be rewarded? There was personal gain in the initial alliance as well. At Joyous Exultation, the NOVA obliterated most of their ships and armies. So it is arguable whether the alliance was done through altruistic intentions or just to save themselves. If it was the latter then it definitely, I think, would be undeserving of any favors.
Really though, for them to kill 23'000'000'000 people and then want a reward for saving 200 million is...unbelievable.
Despite the fact of what they did to us, the horrifying crimes and attrocities that they commitied against us.
Im possitive that the UNSC would know that they had to shove those feelings aside, wanting to avoid a Major Conflict at ALL costs. We just cant afford it. At all.
Its the old addage, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Eventualy, after a generation or 2 im sure, the issues of the crimes against us might be old news, so to speak. Much like Modern day Germany, we cant blame the sins of one generation on all future generations. If the shaky treaties that where establised during the post war manage to last that long, im sure that we would be able to form a strong alliance.
As a side note, although we cant hold a candle to what they did to us, im sure that we caused a number of attrocities and sins against the Elites as well. The NOVA bomb for example, despite the fact that it ultimently saved our ass's.
[Edited on 02.16.2011 8:25 PM PST]