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Ok my question is to those of you who have not yet got a 50 in this dying game.

Do you, in a game where there is a 50 on your team, take the sniper rifle instead of letting the 50 grab it?

I'm asking this because of the recent increase of sniper theft that seems to be flourishing across halo 3 (mostly in social I find).

I will start a nice game on the pit, confident in my ability to you the sniper in a way that will prove beneficial to my team. My ability to nail head shots, preserve the meager ammunition provided and to bring enemies to one shot where they can easily be cleared up by the lower ranks.

But NO! As always some random colonel grade 2 (or worse - i.e. captain/guest) gets there before me, taking the sniper and immediately wasting at least 4 rounds before getting blained. Or worst of all I get to the sniper before anyone else, but am betrayed or constantly shot out of scope by a lower rank until I forfeit the sniper!

What I want to know is why people who are not 50s do such things. Having a skilled player take the sniper will allow your team to get more kills and thus hopefully win the game.

I mean when I was a Colonel Grade 2 on my very first account, of course there were some games I took the sniper first. But if a more skilled player wanted it I would always give it to them and pick up an AR.

In my ideal world snipers could only be picked up by 50s (45+ maybe). Lower ranks you have assault rifles and needlers!
Please use them and leave the snipers to the professionals.

So back to the original question: Do you? And why do you?

  • 02.18.2011 6:25 AM PDT

I honestly agree with your post about losers ( hate me all you want losers) shooting you if you're a higher rank then them and picking snipe off spawns. It's a douche thing a lot of BAD players do a lot because they refuse to learn (sometimes by simply viewing the theatre of there team-mates)..

However your "(45+ maybe)" comment is kind of condensating to me because I'm Australian and over here yellow bar/red bar occurs 9/10 times beyond rank 30 because of our net restrictions. Maybe I'm just angry because of -blam!- internet but my 46 in FFA and Doubles running solo is damn hard to make on yellow/red bar.

45+ Random team mates should feel like a confident win no matter who has host because you both feel confident in your own playing abilities. Even more so with a mic. Share the sniper, often I find the sniper that misses headshots can't clean his own kill because he has no awesome skills with the DMR/BR.

If only halo would add the ability to cook nades, then there would be a lot more clean up kills by the -sniper- :)

  • 02.18.2011 6:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Nex7 IN Lin3
However your "(45+ maybe)" comment is kind of condensating to me because I'm Australian and over here yellow bar/red bar occurs 9/10 times beyond rank 30 because of our net restrictions. Maybe I'm just angry because of -blam!- internet but my 46 in FFA and Doubles running solo is damn hard to make on yellow/red bar.

I'm Australian, I can get a 50 with my eyes closed, and maintain it. Lag is just an excuse, good players move past it.

  • 02.18.2011 6:44 AM PDT

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Most 50s DO have good enough BR skills to clean up kills which is my point, they are good enough to either get the headshot, 2 piece the opponent (Snipe body, BR head) or double shot the enemy.

When playing though the snipers role is a support role - they shouldn't have to clean up every kill as their team should be in position to do it for them. Good snipers don't lead the push - they get in a position to analyse the battlefield, call out enemy positions, shut down enemy incursions into your side and pin down enemies. The colonels etc are the "cannon fodder/grunts" that are meant to hold the frontline cleaning up the snipers one shots and pushing into the enemy side to cap spawns.

Also 45s are relatively easy to get in doubles/FFA no matter what your connection is - as long as you have a good teammate or can steal kills it is easy.

  • 02.18.2011 6:57 AM PDT

meh...

elitists...

  • 02.18.2011 7:07 AM PDT
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I'm a colonel grade 2.

  • 02.18.2011 7:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: cdjohnson10
elitists...


How is it being "elitist" in any way? We are statistically better than the average player as we have achieved the highest rank possible! If you have not achieved the highest rank, it is severely doubtful you can do better than us.

For example you only just have a positive KD and your highest skill is a 13. You have not played against the higher levels in ranked and therefore when you play them you will lose. Whereas I am a 50. My ranked is negative as I derank but my social is a 1.79 (i think) and that includes letting my friend (a legit 1) use my account. I generally do well when playing other 50s and when playing lower ranks I will generally win.

My sniper is most likely better than yours and therefore why shouldn't I take it and use it to it's fullest potential, maximising he use which I put it to and ensuring my team has the best possible chance to win.

If you were to take it you would just be being selfish, only playing for your own enjoyment, not caring whether your team won or lost. There are playlists for a style like that - Lone wolves, 7 on the 7th or rumble pit. However for team games, try and be a little less of an induvidual player and actually try being a team player for once.

Posted by: BR131
I'm a colonel grade 2.


I can tell. Do you selfishly take a 50s sniper or do you leave it for the better players to use?

[Edited on 02.18.2011 7:17 AM PST]

  • 02.18.2011 7:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: BR131
I'm a colonel grade 2.


I can tell. Do you selfishly take a 50s sniper or do you leave it for the better players to use?
Yes. Just to make them rage.

  • 02.18.2011 10:07 AM PDT

Posted by: Plasma Pistols
XDeltaxHunterX he is a beast slayer player, KD higher than the ozone layer, enemies won't have a prayer even though his name can't be g.ayer!

Most of the time I'll let the 50 on my team or whatevs have it. But if I see they're doing garbage with it, or they get wtfpwned, I'll pick it up. Hold on to it til I die or it runs out of ammo. Usually I only grab it on the pit though, and I never run for it after the game spawns. Always after the 2nd or 3rd spawn.

I know you 50's all think you're beasty with it, and having it will win the game,
but if you've got skill to out BR everyone on their team, then why not do that? Let the kids that struggle have the sniper, giving them a better chance to get kills since you don't necessarily need it to win.

  • 02.18.2011 10:12 AM PDT

Im a 50 but i will not pick up the sniper if I know someone else is better with it cause since ever i played reach for a couple of months my sniper has been off. But if there isn't another 50 on my team than i will pick it up and try not to embarrass myself.

  • 02.18.2011 10:18 AM PDT


Posted by: Nex7 IN Lin3
If only halo would add the ability to cook nades, then there would be a lot more clean up kills by the -sniper- :)


:)

  • 02.18.2011 11:20 AM PDT

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I'm a 40, and I don't even want to get a 50 because general sounds so childish.. I'd rather be a 49.

and no, I don't suck with the sniper, I'm actually better then most players with the sniper rifle.

don't be so selfish either, today I got matched up with 2 50s on my team, and when I picked up the sniper they both started to betray me.

I think they should be able to get kills with the other weapons too, because after all I had more kills then both of them and a better K/D spread.

plus, most 50s aren't legit.

  • 02.18.2011 1:27 PM PDT
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so my simple question to you is......if your a 50 how do you get out manuevered by lower ranks constantly? highest ive gotten is a 48 and i can glide around the maps and usually get the snipe first. if u were as good as u made ur rank sound you wouldnt get beaten in a footrace to the snipe now would you?

lol at nonlogical jenerals

  • 02.18.2011 1:45 PM PDT

I don't play with 50s because I'm not good enough :|


I try to communicate with my team if anyone wants the sniper. If not, I'll just try to grab it myself unless I spawn closer to say rockets on Pit.

But if I see someone else wanting sniper i'll let them have it regardless, because I HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE getting shot by my teammates.

  • 02.18.2011 1:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: virgin50pwnr
so my simple question to you is......if your a 50 how do you get out manuevered by lower ranks constantly? highest ive gotten is a 48 and i can glide around the maps and usually get the snipe first. if u were as good as u made ur rank sound you wouldnt get beaten in a footrace to the snipe now would you?

lol at nonlogical jenerals


who gets snipe first depends on who spawns closest to it


lol brigaderps

  • 02.18.2011 1:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: virgin50pwnr
if u were as good as u made ur rank sound you wouldnt get beaten in a footrace to the snipe now would you?

I have been lagging a lot recently.

Off the starting spawn, I don't spawn for a good 2-3 seconds after everyone else. Connection plays a huge role in the opening rush.

  • 02.18.2011 2:20 PM PDT
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I play games for gameplay, not silly gimmicks

H3 MM warrior

Reach S7, 8 and 9 arena warrior.

H4 MM legend

I know when someone with a better sniper than me is one the team I let them have it. I may pick it up on its second spawn, but you should know your strengths and weaknesses. If you arent as good with something as someone else, let that person get it.

I find one of the big differences between good players and mediocre players is the better players play for the win. They dont care about their individual stats so long as they preform for the team. If you go a little negative but contribute with call outs, or weapon times, then I would say you did your job.

Also if your ever on screamos team GIVE HIM THE NEEDLER

  • 02.18.2011 2:23 PM PDT
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ellen: yea if u assume every1 always goes for the sniper first, which in my experience isnt always the case. like in the pit some go for rocks or invis....idk either way i dont think being a 50 should automatically grant you the snipe. ideally the person w/ the highest legit Team sniper rank should get it right?

  • 02.18.2011 2:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: virgin50pwnr
ellen: yea if u assume every1 always goes for the sniper first, which in my experience isnt always the case. like in the pit some go for rocks or invis....idk either way i dont think being a 50 should automatically grant you the snipe. ideally the person w/ the highest legit Team sniper rank should get it right?


TSN skill and sniper skill is not the same. I am a 50 with a lot of wins on it in snipers, but I find I am actually better in the playlist, for the most part, than in a normal games. This doesnt always apply as I can go off with the sniper every couple of games. Its a matter of knowing when im hot with it, or when im playing worse. At any rate, being a snipers 50 doesnt always mean you are the best sniper either. I have a few friends that are just as good as I am with a sniper that dont have a snipers 50.

Its all about the map, and how you play with it in the circumstance you are in

  • 02.18.2011 2:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: meagsIZbeast
I have a few friends that are just as good as I am with a sniper that dont have a snipers 50.

My snipe > your snipe.

  • 02.18.2011 2:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: blankty
Posted by: meagsIZbeast
I have a few friends that are just as good as I am with a sniper that dont have a snipers 50.

My snipe > your snipe.


Sometimes maybe, but overall mine is better. I am more consistent than you, but I will say you can go off too sometimes

  • 02.18.2011 2:32 PM PDT
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I rarely pick up the sniper since I am not that great with it.

  • 02.18.2011 3:17 PM PDT

Planning the cosmos for a healthier future.

I'm a very low ranked player, and I almost NEVER take the sniper rifle unless there is pressure from a central position and I am the only defender and have a chance to balance the pressure momentarily. Otherwise, I respect that this weapon is an asset best reserved for teammates who have the skill to use it. I feel the same about those who take a laser, pod or rocket launcher and leave the base in "slayer" mode when it is an objective game and we're on defense. I kill tons of attackers at the base when I get one of those power weapons, and it is frustrating to watch that asset go shooting from a man-can away from the base as I stay waiting for a three-person hog assault only armed with rifles. The worst is when you do have a weapon you know how to use in the best interest of the team, only to get betrayed and then watch that asset get squandered by an inept teammate (and claimed by the other team). There should be a "beginner's school" that teaches new players how to best contribute to team success rather than kill counts. Don't even get me going on how many times I'm sitting in a hog on Sandtrap Assault and watch EVERY other teammate grab another vehicle or run towards the objective while I'm sitting outside the base, bomb in hand, wondering how the team has any remote chance of success. I don't know if it's inexperience, stupidity, or "slayer" mentality. Thanks for the reminder to just leave the sniper rifle in the hands of those who can "make it so!"

  • 02.18.2011 4:19 PM PDT
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Brother's account. My main is Guillotineee

Depends on the map depends on whether or not I take it.

  • 02.18.2011 9:42 PM PDT
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meh I grab it soemtimes.

also, who cares it social?

  • 02.18.2011 11:35 PM PDT