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Subject: After what I've read Halo 2's campaign....
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: Reptoid2011
Search it up on YouTube, Halo 3 interview or something. There they said that Halo 3 was the best Halo game they've made.

And it is. Halo 2 was pretty much a rushed game. Nice to see that some like it though, I got the impression that everyone thought the sp sucked.


How about you post that link you saw,there are hundreds of Halo 3 interviews.

It's true that it was rushed,but it was still amazing for a rushed game.


I lvoed the arbiter,introduction of the gravemind,the civil war,.....

  • 02.20.2011 8:02 AM PDT


Posted by: Reptoid2011
Halo 3 is the best.

Bungie said so themself, Halo 3 being the best of the 3. You can prefer Halo 2 all you want but there's no way it's better then Halo 3. If you say so, you're retarded.

Halo 3 has...

-Better graphic
-Better story
-Better action
-Better gameplay
-Better vehicles
-Better weapons
-It's much much much more epic


So you are literally telling me you have absolutely no opinion yourself and will blindly follow Bungie's word simply because they made the game? That you are, in effect, a mindless android? In that case, Reach is the best. They'd been calling it the epitome of Halo excellence for a year now.

And I'm suddenly retarded, as are the others, simply because we have an opinion that differs from yours *ahem* Bungie's?

Are you that -blam!- ing conceited to really think your....Bungie's opinion is superior to everyone else's?

Get a life man.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:05 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:05 AM PDT

i have loved all the halos and halo2 and and haloCE are still my favourites. halo3 i only play because of the multiplayer. i think halo 2 is my personal favourite and everyones favourite(mostly everyone) on this topic.

  • 02.20.2011 8:05 AM PDT

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Posted by: Reptoid2011
Halo 3 is the best.

Bungie said so themself, Halo 3 being the best of the 3. You can prefer Halo 2 all you want but there's no way it's better then Halo 3. If you say so, you're retarded.


You're retarded, you can prefer Halo 3 all you like but at the end of the day it's your OPINION, not fact.

Halo 3 has...

-Better graphic


Duh, it came out on the 360 with a new engine. -_-

-Better story

lolno

Halo 3's story had nothing on Halo 2. Gone were the missions where you'd take on the role of Thel, the gameplay was slowed down every time Gravemind or Cortana showed up on-screen. Halo 3 tried to be like Halo 3 and failed. The missions on Earth were awful.

-Better action

The only battle that stands out in Halo 3 is on the Covenant where you fight against 2 Scarabs, and that can be done in under a minute.

Halo 2 was filled with awesome action sequences:
- John jumping out of Cairo Station to "give the Covenant back their bomb".
- Courtyard battle on Outskirts.
- Driving through underground tunnels on Outskirts/Metropolis when the Scarab's beam smashes through the roof.
- Every battle in Metropolis and the final fight against the Scarab.
- Banshee chase and Phantom escort on The Arbiter.
- Battling Heretics and the Flood on Threshold Gas Mine.
- Battle against Sesa 'Refumee on Legendary.
- Every part of Delta Halo, Jackal Creek FTW.
- Scouring underground ruins and gondola rides on Regret.
- Boss fight against Regret.
- Thel vs Miranda and Johnson on Sacred Icon.
- Thel, Rtas and Spec-Ops group vs the Flood on the gondola to the Library.
- Every part of Gravemind, a long level with memorable battles. Skirmish in the Mausoleum against Elites, Jackals, Brutes, Hunters and Drones, anyone?
- Banshee skirmish with Johnson and human allies to get to Tartarus.
- Tartarus boss battle.

Need I go on?

-Better gameplay

Ruined with equipment.

-Better vehicles

They have the same vehicles except for the Chopper and Prowler. -_-

Spectre > Prowler

-Better weapons

Halo 3 was filled with redundant weapons, Halo 2 introduced new weapons that all had a purpose in the game.

-It's much much much more epic

Nope.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:08 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:05 AM PDT

The Razor.

For the honour of the Mirratord.

Just because it's a better made game does NOT mean it's a better game.

And anyway, can we please stop all this juvenile discussion over which game IS better, and instead talk about which game WE THINK is better? Technically, no game is better than another; it's just how us, the players, perceive them that changes.

When talking about which game is superior, there are no facts.

  • 02.20.2011 8:14 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Posted by: Reptoid2011
IGNorant

Halo 3 was the best. The most epic.
Fools. Halo 2 was the best. CE and ODST tied for second best, 3 third and Reach fourth.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:15 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:14 AM PDT

You are utterly clueless, I'm afraid.

Halo 3 wasn't even meant to exist. Due to time constraints they had to cut lots of things out of Halo 2, and settled with a cliffhanger ending. They then took what they intended to have as the ending of Halo 2 and make it an entire game by itself - enter, Halo 3. Or as many refer to it campaign wise, Halo 2.5.

Graphics - The difference in graphics between Halo 2 and Halo 3 was minimal. Higher resolution, HDR lighting, slightly better textures and models. Not a big enough jump to warrant praise.

Story - As I said, Halo 3 was just an extended version of the original Halo 2 ending. It had less variety, length and difficulty - fact.

Action - Whilst Halo 3 had some fun fights with Scarabs, Halo 2 was much better. Escorting a friendly Scarab through a mission, boarding and disabling a scarab in New Mombasa, fighting the Heretics as the Arbiter... I could go on.

Gameplay - Halo 3 wasn't that much different to Halo 2 except it had equipment. Whichever is better is entirely down to opinion.

Vehicles - I beg to differ. With the exception of the final Halo 3 mission, vehicular gameplay was much more enjoyable in Halo 2.

Weapons - As someone mentioned before, Halo 2 had guns which suited a particular role. In Halo 3 there were lots of redundant weapons, and each weapon didn't have as clear a role as Halo 2.

Epicness - Totally, totally wrong.

My guess is you're relatively new to Halo and played Halo 3 before Halo 2. To truly understand the brilliance of the campaign you need to have played them when they launched. Going from Halo CE to Halo 2 was a brilliant experience, and anyone who played Halo back then ought to agree.

  • 02.20.2011 8:18 AM PDT

The Razor.

For the honour of the Mirratord.

Posted by: Reptoid2011
Fools. Halo 2 was the best. CE and ODST tied for second best, 3 third and Reach fourth.

Nice to see that someone loves Halo 2. It's still the worst Halo game when it comes to the sp.

Halo 2 is in the shadow of Halo 3.


Prove it.

  • 02.20.2011 8:21 AM PDT


Posted by: Reptoid2011
Fools. Halo 2 was the best. CE and ODST tied for second best, 3 third and Reach fourth.

Nice to see that someone loves Halo 2. It's still the worst Halo game when it comes to the sp.

Halo 2 is in the shadow of Halo 3.

You are seriously making yourself look like an idiot. It's called an opinion. Just because you think Halo 3 is better than Halo 2, doesn't mean it is a fact.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:23 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reptoid2011
Fools. Halo 2 was the best. CE and ODST tied for second best, 3 third and Reach fourth.

Nice to see that someone loves Halo 2. It's still the worst Halo game when it comes to the sp.

Halo 2 is in the shadow of Halo 3.


How about back up your opinion with exemples instead of mentioning "Bungie said THAT" and ign blabla.

Half of the Halo 3 missions(the Earth ones) barely had a story.

  • 02.20.2011 8:23 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Posted by: Reptoid2011
Rest in peace Halo 2 and it's fans.

Those who say Halo 2 is the best, how about back up your opinions? At least I have Bungie on my side.
Okay, I'll do it.

What could we distinguish between games to say which is "better"? Hype? Gameplay? Graphics? Story? Experience? Memories? Impact? Reception? I'll talk about them all and explain why Halo 2 was the best Halo game to date.

HypeWhat is hype? The buildup and anticipation to a game. Granted, Halo 3 had hype. It probably had more hype than Halo 2 did. In fact, the numbers tell us that. Halo 2 had under 2 million pre orders, while Halo 3 had over 4 million.
Advertising also has a major impact on hype. The trailer for Halo 2 on television recieved huge positive reviews, reeling in thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of more potential buyers. The problem with it, however, was that a lot of potential buyers did not understand what was happening in it. And the scale wasn't enough to earn their interest.
Halo 3's trailer did the same. For a potential buyer that had never played Halo, it would make absolutely no sense. But the difference is that in the marketing for Halo 3, they used live action and non-gameplay CGI. This initial teaser proves that, and made a lot of people think the game was going to look better than it did. This is unlike Halo 2, which showed pure gameplay. However I would disregard hype, because as you're going to see the more hyped game is not always better.

GameplayHalo 2 and Halo 3 have immensely similar gameplay, save equipment and minor balance details. And as they say, "If it aint broke don't fix it". Well, what wasn't broke? Halo 2.
In both games, the Battle Rifle is the main weapon used. Halo 2 and Halo 3's underpowered "counterparts", the SMG and the Assault Rifle, respectively, both fit the same role. Weapon balance, power and gameplay, was extremely similar. So much so that people began calling Halo 3 Halo 2.5.
Their is absolutely no debate that Halo 2 had more variety. Halo 2 had 24 maps, four of these were remade from Halo Combat Evolved. Halo 3 had 24 maps as well, but Halo 3 had six remakes from Halo 2 and Halo Combat Evolved combined (Valhalla is arguable).
Campaign environments were also very widely varied in Halo 2, unlike Halo 3. Halo 2 had 14 playable missions. Each of these were widely varied.
-Cairo, a human space station.
-Outskirts, the slums and alleyways of a human megalopolis city.
-Metropolis, the city center which involved rolling a tank across a bridge, cascading through the streets on a Warthog, and taking down a Scarab. (and back then Scarabs were actually terrifying)
-The Arbiter. You play as an Elite, first of all. Second of all you're doing some light fencing in a Forerunner gas mine.
-Oracle, fighting The Flood throughout the infected labs. Plus a boss fight, taking down the Heretic Leader.
-Delta Halo, scavenging the stone ruins on the new Halo.
-Regret, riding gondolas across the lake to another boss fight, this time with enemies guarding him.
-Sacred Icon, fighting The Flood in the close quarters Library.
-Quarantine Zone, racing through the infected open areas and holding out on a moving gondola to the end.
-Gravemind, moving through the Covenant's base world fighting Brutes.
-Uprising, moving through the chasms extracting vengeance on the Brutes.
-High Charity, the Covenant is collapsing and you're fighting the Flood through High Charity loosing power.
-The Great Journey, escorting a Scarab and taking down the one you've been hating most.

More to come.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 9:03 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: Reptoid2011
Rest in peace Halo 2 and it's fans.

Those who say Halo 2 is the best, how about back up your opinions? At least I have Bungie on my side.


Wow.

You are the only person in this topic who has said Halo 2 is awful, everyone else here has disagreed with you and put reasons for it. You do not have Bungie on your side at all.

You've been a member here for 5 days and already made an arse out of yourself.

[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:31 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:31 AM PDT

Posted by: Reptoid2011
Rest in peace Halo 2 and it's fans.

Those who say Halo 2 is the best, how about back up your opinions? At least I have Bungie on my side.


How about you read my earlier post? Because I backed up my opinion, as did someone before me.

And lol, you don't have Bungie on your side. 1) You don't know their true opinions on the subject 2) They're a company, they're bound to disagree over things 3) They won't be aware of this topic's existance. Be thankful, they'll be unaware of your utter ignorance in this matter.

  • 02.20.2011 8:32 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Oh my god...i don't even know what to say about this guy.



[Edited on 02.20.2011 8:33 AM PST]

  • 02.20.2011 8:33 AM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Halo 2 had by far the best campaign in the series, because it added the most to the Halo Universe. Covenant PoV, Battle for Earth, finding Delta Halo, Covenant Civil War, and the Ark first being talked about.

What Did Halo 3 do, Really? We spent Five levels on Earth, in which nothing significant happened. The Portal was on the Earth, it led to the Ark. The Ark is really an amazing place, but Bungie ruined it, if he had spent more time on the Ark instead of Earth, I think everyone would be much happier.

People complained in Halo 2 that there wasn't enough Earth missions, but that's because Bungie hyped up earth so much and there was only 2 missions. Bungie did the SAME thing with Halo 3. They hyped up the Portal to the Ark and all that, and we spent TWO missions on the Ark. We then spent three missions in some pathetic "city"(Voi) and only one mission on Alpha Halo(another environment I wanted to enjoy more.)

  • 02.20.2011 8:35 AM PDT
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Posted by: DarkScienceLord
I don't think so.

I thought it was awesome...
I agree. I think it might have been my favorite actually...

  • 02.20.2011 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Reptoid2011
Rest in peace Halo 2 and it's fans.

Those who say Halo 2 is the best, how about back up your opinions? At least I have Bungie on my side.

Bungie said that it was better during the advertising for Halo 3. Of course they will say that it's better, they're trying to sell the video game. They won't say "we made this new game, it's good, but honestly it isn't as good as the last one".

I'm going to call "troll" on the OP. He keeps saying the same thing over and over to try to piss us off, and he won't let the conversation progress.

  • 02.20.2011 8:50 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Funny how the trollOP says that nobody likes Halo 2,yet everyone in this thread does.

The troll has failed,go back where you came from.

  • 02.20.2011 8:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Reptoid2011
Halo 3 is the best.

Bungie said so themself, Halo 3 being the best of the 3. You can prefer Halo 2 all you want but there's no way it's better then Halo 3. If you say so, you're retarded.

Halo 3 has...

-Better graphic
-Better story
-Better action
-Better gameplay
-Better vehicles
-Better weapons
-It's much much much more epic


So you are literally telling me you have absolutely no opinion yourself and will blindly follow Bungie's word simply because they made the game? That you are, in effect, a mindless android? In that case, Reach is the best. They'd been calling it the epitome of Halo excellence for a year now.

And I'm suddenly retarded, as are the others, simply because we have an opinion that differs from yours *ahem* Bungie's?

Are you that -blam!- ing conceited to really think your....Bungie's opinion is superior to everyone else's?

Get a life man.
It's people like Reptoid that get me into a bad mood...I mean you just make me furious...

  • 02.20.2011 8:56 AM PDT

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Meh Halos Campaign has always been pretty mediocre.

  • 02.20.2011 8:59 AM PDT

What's with the H2 vs H3 argument here? H2 likers are supposed to argue against H1 lovers, it's those who bashed your campaign to death (and H3's too).

  • 02.20.2011 8:59 AM PDT

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