- matman25402
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I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.
A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.
Posted by: Naked Crook
During the events of Delta Halo in Halo 2. Many Councilors were lured (tricked) to Delta Halo, by the Brutes to witness the activation of Halo. This resulted in the death of many Councilors in a planned ambush.
That's the oldest trick in the book...and your desired proof.
And who told them to do that? The Prophets. All they did was say,"Uhh okay boss." and do as they were told. Not very cunning at all.
Posted by: Naked Crook
Remember...you said:
Posted by: matman25402
Or they have a badass who correctly analyzed his opponent, gave an inspiring speech, and beat the odds.
You said inspiring speech. You said he gave a nice speech before the battle...you said nothing about giving orders during the battle. Make sure you know what you said before you critique what I say.
Like the Audio Logs from the battle haven't been shown to you in this thread at least 3 times. Doesn't seem like you pick up on things to quickly. Reminds me of a certain fictional species...
Posted by: Naked Crook
Go and sign up for your schools Football team and make sure you play defense. The first thing they will teach you is to lower your center of mass below your targets center of mass. This will allow you to tackle, and bring down, someone up to 200 lbs heavier than you.
I played football. But that has nothing to do with this. Clearly just by sizing them up alone should be enough for one to judge that Forge shouldn't be able to tackle Ripa, but I'm going to get technical on you, hopefully you can handle it. Ripa Moramee is a sangheili, and a large one at that. He weighs roughly 370lbs, plus 70 pounds of armor (That is a low estimate, mind you) which brings his weight to a low ballpark of 440 lbs of muscle and metal. Forge, is 6'3, roughly 180 pounds, and is lugging about 50 lbs of armor. There is no way in any stretch of the imagination that he could have tackled the giant known as Ripa.
Posted by: Naked Crook
it's a short read but although the army command was never seen, it is accepted by canon that he did, in fact, fight along side the Arbiter in the Harvest Campaign.
Once again, he is a multiplayer character. Until he is ever seen in campaign or mentioned in one of the halo novels, comic books, or any other form of canonized halo media, he is not canon. Once again, lrn2canon
Posted by: Naked Crook
Brutes have that too. Big whoop.
But to say a Navy commander will not allow someone to make a suggestion in a naval engagement...is stupid. If someone makes a smart suggestion, chances are, any good commander will listen to his crew...that is why they are there. That's the mark of a good leader...unless you concede Rtas is not a good leader...than fine...I can live with that. Whatever floats your boat.
Once again, you are oblivious to all prior posts. The Audio Logs clearly show Rtas giving orders, and silently and without question, his orders become a reality. No where in the logs do you hear another sangheili attempt to give Rtas suggestions or other commands.
Posted by: Naked Crook
I asked for specifics on what Rtas strategy during the battle of the Ark. You said something along the lines of "A good strategy..."
How do you know it was good? What if he has several strategies and they all failed? He only had one ship left so far as we knew. If he had other ships, than another ship would have moved in after the flood asteroid punched a hole in his ship in the next level. He obviously didn't have that golden ticket for winning. I want specifics on his strategy...and you cannot give any...so...you rely on conjecture and possibilities on what that strategy is. This is called unproven events.
For the third time in this post, you will be referred to the Audio Logs. Do you see anything about Rtas losing? Anything about his ships being destroyed? No. You hear him giving orders and winning, like the champion Rtas is.
Posted by: Naked Crook
Conjecture is a fancy word for speculation. I know what it means. Read the last bit and you will see why I use this word.
Alas...the principle is the same...we are having a debate whther this squid is a decent leader...I offer facts and hypothesis with support and supporting argument...you offer...
What's that word again?
it starts with a C...
CONJECTURE.
I'm glad you know what it means. Now go back to your posts. Do you ever give a source or other canonical piece of information that can be used to back your claims legitimately? No, you just say that there is no proof that Rtas did this or that, even though myself and others have been hitting you in the face with canonical proof of what Rtas accomplished.
[Edited on 02.24.2011 1:32 PM PST]