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Subject: Bungie ignored this game so much...

Vengeance only leads to an ongoing cycle of hatred.


Posted by: Charles128

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This game was just an appetizer before the main course that is the fail game called Halo Reach.


I wanted more appetizer.

Agreed. In this case I'll skip the main course and continue to feed of the appetizer. It would be far more pleasing and satifsying.

  • 02.26.2011 8:58 PM PDT

First in, last out...

you gave a pretty good speech there why dont u send an email to bungie? anyways i also was disapointed about the game not having a matchmaking for firefight or any matchmaking at all and not even creating new maps for firefight...but at least we have reach now being much more awesome than odst. And, i COMPLETELY disagree that odst is better than reach. REACH IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE...not even Call of Duty can be much as awesome than what badass bungie has made

  • 02.26.2011 9:33 PM PDT

Look at ODST. Now at Reach. Now tell me, which one is underdeveloped?

  • 02.27.2011 10:54 AM PDT

Recon armor was not gifted or bestowed upon me. I earned it through blood, sweat, and tears. Road to Recon complete, on to the next challenge. Halo 3: 1750/1750, ODST: 1000/1000, Reach: 1400/1400.

I don't think that it was under developed but it certainly was not given enough attention. A matchmaking system would have made this game so much better.

  • 02.27.2011 1:51 PM PDT


Posted by: mastercheif360
you gave a pretty good speech there why dont u send an email to bungie? anyways i also was disapointed about the game not having a matchmaking for firefight or any matchmaking at all and not even creating new maps for firefight...but at least we have reach now being much more awesome than odst. And, i COMPLETELY disagree that odst is better than reach. REACH IS THE BEST GAME EVER MADE...not even Call of Duty can be much as awesome than what badass bungie has made


How is Reach better than ODST? Anyway, I dont think that email is going to get any attention.

Posted by: Jangokenobi
Look at ODST. Now at Reach. Now tell me, which one is underdeveloped?


ODST? Reach has Campaign, Online Co-op 4 player campaign matchmaking, splitscreen campaign, matchmaking, firefight matchmaking, firefight custom games, standard custom games, many gametypes and option, many new abilities, mechanics, and vehicles, and a theater mode that tracks your allies/opponents HUD's.


Posted by: GadianZero12
I don't think that it was under developed but it certainly was not given enough attention. A matchmaking system would have made this game so much better.


Thats exactly what underdeveloped means.

[Edited on 02.28.2011 3:00 PM PST]

  • 02.28.2011 2:58 PM PDT
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coulda been much better, its firefight was actually better than reach's. Thing is, the least they could do was ODST competitive mp, and also ODST vs Brutes, akin to spartans vs elites in reach. That coulda easily been as some sort of feedback info for what they'd be doing for reach, but also serve as a treat for the fans.

  • 02.28.2011 3:05 PM PDT


Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
coulda been much better, its firefight was actually better than reach's. Thing is, the least they could do was ODST competitive mp, and also ODST vs Brutes, akin to spartans vs elites in reach. That coulda easily been as some sort of feedback info for what they'd be doing for reach, but also serve as a treat for the fans.


Yes, I was hoping that Reach would use more traditional Spartan III's as this kind of MP would be akin to that. ODST MP soudns like a cool mix of CoD and Halo.

  • 03.05.2011 10:49 PM PDT

Yea, I also really wished they made DLC for it. I really thought they could make it better with DLC.

  • 03.05.2011 11:14 PM PDT


Posted by: BlackKnightKanos
Yea, I also really wished they made DLC for it. I really thought they could make it better with DLC.


Well I dont even know if thats possible, but it ought to have had matchmaking of some sort.

  • 03.06.2011 11:31 AM PDT

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ODST and Reach were just money makers. They made ODST so that people would buy it for the beta then buy reach.

  • 03.06.2011 2:28 PM PDT

Vrrin Vrrin, yeah here I come.

I have good memories of the campaign... :)

the firefight... eh, it was better than reach's. I guess because it was more intense! besides, the original version of something is almost always the best.


I had good memories of it basically because me and my friend would just do crazy stuff in the campaign, instead of sticking to orthodox plans.

  • 03.06.2011 4:53 PM PDT
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well Odst was another part of halo 3 they used it for the testing of the beta for Halo:Reach soooo Odst is still good but more plays for Halo:Reach,and dont be hating on reach

  • 03.06.2011 7:25 PM PDT

The world is not beautiful: And that, in a way, lends it a sort of beauty.

~Kino's Journey

i wish bungie never bothered with reach and focussed all their effort into ODST

  • 03.06.2011 7:54 PM PDT


Posted by: DarkJet7
i wish bungie never bothered with reach and focussed all their effort into ODST


That would have been nicer.

  • 03.06.2011 8:30 PM PDT

kaiba034, nice odst vid, loved it.

  • 03.19.2011 7:45 AM PDT

Cave Johnson here, we're done!

PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.


Posted by: Charles128
Seriosuly, this game was so under everything. Underdeveolped, no matchmaking for a firefight better than reach's, not even a player search, compeltely ignored after reach came out, no DLC ever or further support.


That's because it's not a full game, their intent was to just make a short and simple story, provide it with some firefight (Which they did before in Marathon) and release amongst the masses.

Your judging it like a game that was made over a period of three years, this was made in one year.

The game is not underdeveloped, it's been fully developed as they intended. What they wanted inside of it went in, and the improvements they found after people played it was what they used to improve Reach.

If Reach was like this game it could have been much better. I think alot of people like ODST better. I feel like they turned this game into nothing more than a map pack and a beta test of firefight, just a short prelude of awesome before reach. Plus you beta tested reach for having this. Is that all it was to you bungie? ODST could have been a gem, but was just underdone. The fact that it included Halo 3 in its name reduced it to addon status.

I like ODST's campaign better, but then again I'm still fighting whether or not I like the story in Halo CE better than ODST. Even if it didn't have a beta code, I still would have bought it.

You also act like the entire bungie team worked on this. A small portion of bungie that wasn't working on Reach currently was being sent to work on ODST, a small project with a small team attached, and considering the time constraints, they made an amazing game.

Seriously, look at this forum. Theres no activity cause theres nothing to talk about. Half the threads are begging for firefight games.
The fact that this thread has yet to have a reply only strengthens my point.


Look at the Halo 3 forum, just a little more activity than what this forum has, and that is a AAA title.


It's unsettling to see you judge this game on the merits of improvements made in Halo Reach that had not yet existed in any halo game before it, as well as judge it like it was a full game.

ODST was an expansion, not DLC, but an extra story that we have yet to see that uses the Halo 3 engine. The only reason it was made full price was because of the addition of the Halo 3 multiplayer disk.

Halo 3 ODST is a gem. Saying it's not because of all the undeveloped features that didn't even come into Halo until Reach is a stupid statement. It's like saying "Why didn't Halo 3 include Firefight? They had it in Reach." Not to mention you keep going on about how they completely ignore it.

1) It's an expansion, not a full game, you try convincing the employees to not work on the 2 years in the making title that's going to be the last halo game they ever make, just so they make some DLC for an expansion.

2) They made four vidocs for this game, most of them being after they made the game. Bungie doesn't just let a baby go into the world and not explain what they were thinking in the design process. Don't even try to say "They ignored it". They couldn't manage Halo 3 dlc, developing reach, and ODST dlc. They are only a team of 100-150 or so.

3) "Is this all it was to you bungie?" Watch the vidocs, watch how marty took new strides into making a new feel towards this game, watch how the game designers are talking about the new things they tried with the Halo Franchise. Bungie took a lot of chances with ODST, they made a game that was nearly completely different from any halo game before it. ODST was a special project for those who built it, and if they had the opportunity I'm sure they would have given it more support.

  • 03.19.2011 9:19 AM PDT

Nice topic. I also think that game was underrated. In my opinion, campaign and FF are 100times better than those on reach. In fact, i love this game! It's just sad that we can't even make a player search, so if you don't have any friends playing this game anymore you feel very alone...

[Edited on 03.19.2011 9:43 AM PDT]

  • 03.19.2011 9:42 AM PDT

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