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Subject: Halo: Reach Brutes....What happened?


Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Halo reach brutes suck we all know

Halo 3 brutes looked too much like elites and are stupid, but still very cool

and Halo 2 brutes RULE, those are the best, who can forget Tartarus?? he is so awesome best boss in the series


I agree.. Halo reach brutes seem to be there just to fill empty space


I do like Halo 2 Brutes and Halo 3 Brutes, they both have their own appeal to them. I agree, Tartarus was pretty boss in terms of being a boss.

I don't look at their AI, just at what they look at.


Totally agree, the Halo 2 brutes really had that brute feeling... they were a bit stupid but they played their role really well
Tartarus looked like a worthy boss, beating someone stronger the leader of the brutes that betrayled you, the story made the final fight epic

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I wouldn't call them stupid...just more forward with their tactics.

  • 03.06.2011 3:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
"Brute Force" You really can't find it on the internet, although you can if you go to your local book store. If you want to know its real look it up on Google, but be sure to have Halo in the title or else it will direct you to World War links.


I can't find anything.....about this book.

It's not on Halopedian.....or Halo Nation

And if what you say is true about My local book Store carrying this book....Then CLEARLY a Big Online Retailer carry it.

I went to Amazon.....and Searched "Brute Force Halo"

Here are the results of said Search

Result #1

Result #2

Result #3

Result #4


How could a Spiderman game for the Gameboy Advance game show up in my search....but not a HALO BOOK?


I am beginning to question your points Mojeda

First you say Halo Reach isn't canon....Something that SHOULD show up on any google search.....or Halopedia search....nada.

You provide no credible source

Then...you say being left handed is a trait exclusive to Arbiters....

You provide no credible source....and to top it all off, I can DEBUNK your theory!

Rtas is one of only three Elite NPCs shown carrying his weapon in his left hand at least once (the others are a Spec Ops Elite in the level, The Oracle, and the Arbiter in a cutscene, which is also from The Oracle). This occurs during the level Quarantine Zone, in which he leaves the Arbiter to do battle with the Flood, saying "On your way, Arbiter. I'll deal with these beasts."

That is straight from Rtas' wiki on Halopedia....


And now your telling me....This book about brutes says Doisiac sustained 100 BILLION of them?

the book is titled "Brute Force" You really can't find it on the internet


I rest my case

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  • 03.06.2011 3:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cubanpete24
"Brute Force" You really can't find it on the internet, although you can if you go to your local book store. If you want to know its real look it up on Google, but be sure to have Halo in the title or else it will direct you to World War links.

I can't find anything.....about this book.

It's not on Halopedian.....or Halo Nation

And if what you say is true about My local book Store carrying this book....Then CLEARLY a Big Online Retailer carry it.

I went to Amazon.....and Searched "Brute Force Halo"

Here are the results of said Search

Result #1

Result #2

Result #3

Result #4


How could a Spiderman game for the Gameboy Advance game show up in my search....but not a HALO BOOK?

Indeed. This appears to be a game that was released alongside Halo: CE in a double pack.

Have you perhaps misinterpreted a fanfic as canon some while ago? It happens. Leviathan's "A Sangheili's War is Never Over" comic strip over on HBO fooled a few people, (Including me for a time! But it was before I had read any of the official novels, so shush!) probably because it was posted on Bungie.net's news feed by Urk, and it was rather good too.

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Posted by: mojeda101
Whatever you say, i'd export more out of Brute fan, if you were, you would have known this.


For the record, don't say I am not a Brute fan, just because I refuse to believe and accept non-sense.

You call yourself a Brute fan, but you make no effort to even stand up for them.

If you are a fan of a hockey team, even if they are the worst team, you stand up for them and you defend them against ridicule.

You call yourself a brute fan...but you make no effort to defend them.

Some fan you are. With fans like you, I guess they don't need enemies.

  • 03.06.2011 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cubanpete24
"Brute Force" You really can't find it on the internet, although you can if you go to your local book store. If you want to know its real look it up on Google, but be sure to have Halo in the title or else it will direct you to World War links.

I can't find anything.....about this book.

It's not on Halopedian.....or Halo Nation

And if what you say is true about My local book Store carrying this book....Then CLEARLY a Big Online Retailer carry it.

I went to Amazon.....and Searched "Brute Force Halo"

Here are the results of said Search

Result #1

Result #2

Result #3

Result #4


How could a Spiderman game for the Gameboy Advance game show up in my search....but not a HALO BOOK?

Indeed. This appears to be a game that was released alongside Halo: CE in a double pack.

Have you perhaps misinterpreted a fanfic as canon some while ago? It happens. Leviathan's "A Sangheili's War is Never Over" comic strip over on HBO fooled a few people, (Including me for a time! But it was before I had read any of the official novels, so shush!) probably because it was posted on Bungie.net's news feed by Urk, and it was rather good too.


Given that he specifically mentions that it's a book to be found in a book store I highly doubt he misinterpreted a fanfic and is merely just pulling "facts" out of thin air and claiming them to be straight from the books. This isn't the first time that particular user has done so in this forum...

Brute Force was originally an old Xbox title and along with Halo and Crimson Skies were slated to be successful franchises that would endure the test of time and thus had accompanying novels to go with them. Of the three only Halo survived as an IP while Crimson Skies and Brute Force slunk into obscurity.

  • 03.06.2011 9:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: mojeda101
Whatever you say, i'd export more out of Brute fan, if you were, you would have known this.


For the record, don't say I am not a Brute fan, just because I refuse to believe and accept non-sense.

You call yourself a Brute fan, but you make no effort to even stand up for them.

If you are a fan of a hockey team, even if they are the worst team, you stand up for them and you defend them against ridicule.

You call yourself a brute fan...but you make no effort to defend them.

Some fan you are. With fans like you, I guess they don't need enemies.


I am a Brute fan, but I am fine with how they are. Yes they could have been better, but time restraints stopped Bungie from making them what they should have been. I understand why they were like that and accept it. You on the other hand just cannot get over how they turned out. Relax, it's just a game.

There are reasons why they are how they are. Accept them and get over it. Wow I feel like I just shot down an Armor Lock complainer, it's the same deal. Learn to get over it, but for this case, learn to get over it, Simple.

  • 03.06.2011 9:52 PM PDT

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@Stealthslasher

Thank you so much for clearing that up

Classy Brute appreciates it


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Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Given that he specifically mentions that it's a book to be found in a book store I highly doubt he misinterpreted a fanfic and is merely just pulling "facts" out of thin air and claiming them to be straight from the books. This isn't the first time that particular user has done so in this forum...


Could you please just clarify what you said here. I am stuck between interpreting this two ways, and I am unsure what your exact meaning is. Could you re-word that.

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Posted by: Naked Crook

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Given that he specifically mentions that it's a book to be found in a book store I highly doubt he misinterpreted a fanfic and is merely just pulling "facts" out of thin air and claiming them to be straight from the books. This isn't the first time that particular user has done so in this forum...


Could you please just clarify what you said here. I am stuck between interpreting this two ways, and I am unsure what your exact meaning is. Could you re-word that.


Always double check the info that moejeda posts, particularly when he claims he got that info from one of the Halo books. He has on many occasions in other threads in this forum done so only for his information to be false.

  • 03.06.2011 9:59 PM PDT

I like to play Devil's Advocate

I can now rest well at night....knowing this

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Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Posted by: Naked Crook

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Given that he specifically mentions that it's a book to be found in a book store I highly doubt he misinterpreted a fanfic and is merely just pulling "facts" out of thin air and claiming them to be straight from the books. This isn't the first time that particular user has done so in this forum...


Could you please just clarify what you said here. I am stuck between interpreting this two ways, and I am unsure what your exact meaning is. Could you re-word that.


Always double check the info that moejeda posts, particularly when he claims he got that info from one of the Halo books. He has on many occasions in other threads in this forum done so only for his information to be false.


Thank you very much for clearing that up.

  • 03.06.2011 10:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Posted by: Naked Crook

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
Given that he specifically mentions that it's a book to be found in a book store I highly doubt he misinterpreted a fanfic and is merely just pulling "facts" out of thin air and claiming them to be straight from the books. This isn't the first time that particular user has done so in this forum...


Could you please just clarify what you said here. I am stuck between interpreting this two ways, and I am unsure what your exact meaning is. Could you re-word that.


Always double check the info that moejeda posts, particularly when he claims he got that info from one of the Halo books. He has on many occasions in other threads in this forum done so only for his information to be false.


Thank you very much for clearing that up.


Indeed, thanks for the information.

Anyways, have anybody noticed the ridiculously high jumps Chieftains do sometimes? Like, the other day I was playing Firefight with some random guy and he was using Jetpack. The Brute jumped almost halfway up to were the guy was in an attempt to hit him.

It was astonishing to say the least.

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Anyways, have anybody noticed the ridiculously high jumps Chieftains do sometimes? Like, the other day I was playing Firefight with some random guy and he was using Jetpack. The Brute jumped almost halfway up to were the guy was in an attempt to hit him.

It was astonishing to say the least.


Were you playing ODST or Reach Firefight?

I have noticed ODST brutes make pretty big jumps.

Brutes in general can jump high. Due to the amount of muscle, and their development on a planet with 2.1 Earth atmospheres, I would surmise they would really be able to jump.

  • 03.06.2011 10:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Anyways, have anybody noticed the ridiculously high jumps Chieftains do sometimes? Like, the other day I was playing Firefight with some random guy and he was using Jetpack. The Brute jumped almost halfway up to were the guy was in an attempt to hit him.

It was astonishing to say the least.


Were you playing ODST or Reach Firefight?

I have noticed ODST brutes make pretty big jumps.

Brutes in general can jump high. Due to the amount of muscle, and their development on a planet with 2.1 Earth atmospheres, I would surmise they would really be able to jump.


I was playing Reach.

But this Brute jumped like 3-4 meters in the air vertically to get my teammate. I was like woaaaaah and just stood watching before he came down and was overwhelmed with Assault Rifle bullets.

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
I was playing Reach.

But this Brute jumped like 3-4 meters in the air vertically to get my teammate. I was like woaaaaah and just stood watching before he came down and was overwhelmed with Assault Rifle bullets.


Yeah...Brutes can really jump.

But you would think like a 1500 lbs Brute, when falling to the ground would make things shake a bit.

They should have added that.

The ability to be crushed...with the wacky bone snapping sound effects.

  • 03.06.2011 11:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
I was playing Reach.

But this Brute jumped like 3-4 meters in the air vertically to get my teammate. I was like woaaaaah and just stood watching before he came down and was overwhelmed with Assault Rifle bullets.


Yeah...Brutes can really jump.

But you would think like a 1500 lbs Brute, when falling to the ground would make things shake a bit.

They should have added that.

The ability to be crushed...with the wacky bone snapping sound effects.


Perhaps, or be able to affect the terrain with the gravity hammer. Leave dents on the ground and walls maybe?

[Edited on 03.06.2011 11:18 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 11:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Cubanpete24

So in Halo 3, you shot on under his armor chipped off, what did he do, He lunged from across the map like a Micheal Jordan

in Halo Reach....you shoot one in the head 4 times until his hat pops off.....No Micheal Jordan Lunge.....No Berserk mode.


I have a screenshot and video that prove this wrong

  • 03.07.2011 4:28 AM PDT


Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Well, Elites that wield Energy Swords are mostly far more, adept at fighting and are more intelligent as, well, they've killed thousands of enemies to get the rank necessary to receive the honor of the sword.

It's like us, some of us get things from our parents like abilities and the likes, say, an olympic swimmer were to have sex with some random woman and gets her pregnant, the baby would be less likely to get the attributes from his parents.

But if it was with another swimmer, I think the baby would have a genetic predisposition to be of a more slim and athletic body instead of a regular body.


This is wrong. Although I do agree, some people can be genetically predisposed to certain body types (fat, thin, fit, muscular), it still plays no factor in what you are and are not good at. We have skills and talents today that were not considered, or even fathomed to be, skills 100, 500 years ago.

If two fit swimmers have a baby, that baby could turn out anyway. If that baby doesn't put down the chips and cake, that baby, when it grows up, is gonna fat, lazy, and most certainly, not an Olympic swimmer. It's all upbringing and environment.

Let's take Usze Taham as an example.

Posted by: www.halopedian.com
Although Usze 'Taham was born into a respected merchant family in the state of 'Taham, he was fathered by Toha 'Sumai, one of the prominent swordfighters of this age. Toha mated with Usze's mother, a privilege granted by being a Swordsman, and Usze was raised by his mother and her husband.


I don't think Usze Taham is using a sword

Why isn't he using a sword? He has Sword DNA! Give that man a sword!

Oh wait...you need to PRACTICE to become a good swordsman. But if you have Sword DNA...you should be an instant God of the sword. So...if good swordsmanship is in their DNA then everyone has Sword DNA...then it's not special to use a sword. So then why do you need to be an aristocrat to use a sword if everyone has Sword DNA? Usze Taham doesn't look like an aristocrat, nor does his family seem like aristocracy...so then why was he born in the first place?

So...if only aristocrats can use swords...why does Thel Lodamee have a sword? It never says he is an aristocrat. What's going on? Was he trained to use a sword? I'm confused.

God in Heaven help me...

Lets look up the definition of Schlock. Lets take a moment to do that...and then think about what I just typed.

All done...lets move on.

Posted by: OrderedComa
Well I said "sword genes" was the crude way of putting it. You have to agree though that there are certain genes that would make one more suited to something, yes? That's my take on it anyway, that being a sword master for Elites is more than just wielding a sword, and thus why they would want a specific genetic set for one.


I do agree, there are some genetic dispositions, like body weight, height, etc, that could help to become a better sword wielder...but I refute the idea that Swordsmanship is in their genetic code. Why isn't ship piloting, or vegetable cutting, or cooking, or dancing, or singing also part of their DNA. Again...I agree on traits that can make skills easier/harder to learn...but I refute the idea that people have skills in DNA.

Posted by: OrderedComa
You are talking about the first time the game players have seen them right? Not the the Brute's first canon appearance?


I apologize, I was unclear about exactly what I meant to say.

Yes, I am talking about their first video game appearance...which was Halo 2.

Posted by: OrderedComa
I think they've looked cool in all their appearances. The two are not all that different looking, I think we'd have the same thing playing out as with the different sub-sets of Humanity. You know how like Asians would look very different from a European, but they're still both humans. The Reach Brutes are simply less hairy than the others we've seen and have a different shaped head.


I do like Halo 2 Brutes and I do like Halo 3/ODST/Wars Brutes.

And you raise a good point about different sub-species. But...between Asians and Europeans...there are tiny differences. Skin tone, hair color, etc.

Reach brutes look like a totally different species than Halo 3/ODST/Wars Brutes. Perhaps radical differences in appearance is possible...but from what we know of humanity, which is our only basis of comparison, and as Brutes look as close to humans as any Covenant species could hope to be, I think it's fair to make a conclusion, although a very debatable conclusion, that Reach Brutes are not a sub-species...but rather...a really poor job in recreating the Halo 3/ODST/Wars Brutes because Bungie wanted to make things look different to confuse us.


Posted by: mojeda101
What...?


That's a gorilla...not a Brute. (And don't say "they are the same thing" because we all know they are not, it's just a racist term...yes...calling them Gorialls is a racist term in context. I know...it strange saying not to be racist to a fictional species...but...real or fake, it says a lot about someone if they can use derogatory terms just because they don't like something.)

I dunno what you are trying to say here...but...try putting your idea in the form of words.



Now...I need to address something here...

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Besides Brutes just have their nightly village circle-jerk, were every Brute minor gives head to the local chief of the village.....cookie if you get the reference.


I needed to check what you meant by cookie, and after taking into consideration what you said, and checking Google...I must say you are one of the dumbest, and possibly, most sick humans alive.

Nobody is interested in the content matter to which you touch yourself at night to. Nobody is interested in your "cookie" hobby, or any other practice you engage in.

Go and make your sick jokes somewhere else. Because, that is rather disgusting, and not only is it unfounded, it makes you look VERY stupid.

If you have nothing intelligent to contribute, go away.


I'm not saying that being a good swordsman is in their genetic code, I think it's more about the specific gense, weight, height, etc. that would make someone more suited to a roll as a master swordsman. Whatever it is is much more complicated than a single gene, which is why I said "Sword Gene" is a crude way of putting it. And I don't think it's been said that no matter what the "Sword Genes" will be passed on, it seemed to me like the Sword Masters could mate with multiple women to increase the chances of passing on the "Sword genes". So just because an Elite is the child of a Sword Master does not mean that they'll be one too, like it would seem that Usze is not, though we've never actually seen him do anything in cutscenes, so it's entirely possible he's a Sword Master too, especially since he was offered to join the Honor Guards multiple times.

From what I've read, it sounded like an Aristocrat was a position like Field Marshall or something, and anyone who used the sword automatically earned the title. Especially since they receive a specific suffix "ai" added to their name if they're a sword wielder. It didn't sound like wealth or what we would classify an aristocrat by figured into it much if at all. And we really don't know much about Lodamee, so if he's using a sword he probably is an aristocrat, since Minors can be aristocrats, which would indicate it doesn't really have much to do with rank.

Ok, so the Asian/European example probably the best comparison I could have made, comparing dogs probably would have been a better example. What differences in appearance have you noticed between Reach Brutes and the Other Brutes? The only one I really noticed was the way the head was shaped and no obvious hair.

I apologize, I was unclear about exactly what I meant to say.

Yes, I am talking about their first video game appearance...which was Halo 2.


It's 'k, just wanted to make sure I was understanding you right, and to prompt an explanation so no one would misinterpret the meaning and raise a big issue over nothing.

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Posted by: Cubanpete24
I may be the first one to say this, But I really dig Brutes in the Halo Universe, Probably even more than I dig Elites.

That isn't to say I don't dig Elites.....but let me put it this way

Elites are Elegant....But Brutes are.....well, Brutes.

and that's what I like about them.

When you hear the word Brute, Something Big and strong is supposed to come to mind, something that uses Brute Force

See what I did there?

Right, so in Halo 2, They were Bullet Sponges, but hey, at the time, they were a neat change of pace from fighting Elites

In Halo 3.....Damn, did they kick ass.

They looked better......Fought better.....and were now sporting a kickass goatee

And we all know Goatees are cool.

Not only that, but they would freaking Lunge from across the map to get to you,the first time that happened to me, I freaking -blam!- my pants

But then.....Halo: Reach releases their first renders of Brutes.

Brute Minors

Brute Chieftain


What the -blam!- happened!?

Where did all the hair go?!? Where did the Sexy goatee go?!

okay....okay....so they shaved, What else could change in their design....

Spoke too soon

Lips?!? And a conehead?!? WHAT!?!

How could we go from this to this?!

And, not only do they no longer resemble Brutes.....But they don't even act like ones

So in Halo 3, you shot on under his armor chipped off, what did he do, He lunged from across the map like a Micheal Jordan

in Halo Reach....you shoot one in the head 4 times until his hat pops off.....No Micheal Jordan Lunge.....No Berserk mode.

They just stand there....and take hits!




and I'm no stranger to how many time paradoxes Halo: Reach has caused....



Please post your opinions on Halo: Reach Brutes below


You preety much summed up my opinion. Brutes are supposed to be large, animalistic, gut ripping, neck gnawing iron rocket axe wielding monsters.

That are also fun to go up against (like in Halo 3).

Reach's Brutes suck. I only like the visual effect of the spiker heating up, but that's about it.

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  • 03.07.2011 12:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: OrderedComa
I'm not saying that being a good swordsman is in their genetic code, I think it's more about the specific gense, weight, height, etc. that would make someone more suited to a roll as a master swordsman.


I think it may be more about certain traits as opposed to some gene. They should have thought about this more...instead of just call it sword genes. That is too outrageous. But yeah...it must be desirable physical traits that compose sword genes.

Posted by: OrderedComa
From what I've read, it sounded like an Aristocrat was a position like Field Marshall or something, and anyone who used the sword automatically earned the title.


Well...the Elites who wield swords are important people...so you would think Aristocracy would mean something almost similar to what we see it as.

Can anyone be an aristocrat? What is needed to be an aristocrat?

Do you just become one when reaching a certain rank?

Whatever...

But yeah...back to the Brutes.

Posted by: OrderedComa
Ok, so the Asian/European example probably the best comparison I could have made, comparing dogs probably would have been a better example. What differences in appearance have you noticed between Reach Brutes and the Other Brutes? The only one I really noticed was the way the head was shaped and no obvious hair.


Well...as I stated like a million posts back...

Posted by: Naked Crook
1. Cone heads on Reach Brutes as opposed to rounder, horizontally longer heads.
2. Human looking lips. Reach Brutes have pale eyes, while Brutes have red eyes.
4. Reach Brutes are too smooth. Brutes have rough skin
5. Reach Brutes have smaller, longer feet with long toes. Brutes have tall, bulky, and short feet with short toes.
6. Reach Brutes have too much patience. Brutes are angry people that flip out.
7. Reach Brutes have perfectly straight legs and arms. Brutes have weird legs, with muscular bulges above the knees and forearms
8. Reach Brutes have thin, pointy teeth. Brutes have bulky and sharp teeth.
9. Reach Brutes have small mouths. Brutes have mouths that can open very wide and protrude outwards (and even fit MC's helmeted head inside of it)


There was some other stuff I also noted.

10. Reach Brutes have pointed chins. Normal Brutes have rounded chins.
11. Reach Brutes have gold eyes. Every brute seen in every other Halo has red eyes.
12. Everything is wrong with the skull...just find a picture...
13. The Noes is totally wrong on Reach brutes. It is too narrow, very small nostrils, and looks human. Normal brutes have wider noses with larger nostrils.
14. Halo 3 Brutes have pronounced and wide shoulders. This means they have large shoulders that are up at neck level. Reach Brutes have slouched shoulders, a totally different structure.

So yeah...there are many differences.

I think I even missed some stuff.

  • 03.08.2011 12:01 AM PDT

Posted By: Naked Crook
I think it may be more about certain traits as opposed to some gene. They should have thought about this more...instead of just call it sword genes. That is too outrageous. But yeah...it must be desirable physical traits that compose sword genes.

I think it may be more about certain traits as opposed to some gene. They should have thought about this more...instead of just call it sword genes. That is too outrageous. But yeah...it must be desirable physical traits that compose sword genes.


It sounds like we agree about the meaning behind "sword genes", I agree, they could have explained better, though I think it is possible, judging from how they seem to rely on the Prophets for scientific matters and they themselves are focused more on warfare, that the Elites have rather a minimal knowledge of genetics, so it's possible they think there is a swordsman gene because their knowledge of genetics is lacking.

On Aristocracy:
Maybe so, it sounded like being an Aristocrat was more about wielding a sword for them anything else.

Yes, back to the Bruties

1. Cone heads on Reach Brutes as opposed to rounder, horizontally longer heads.
2. Human looking lips. Reach Brutes have pale eyes, while Brutes have red eyes.
4. Reach Brutes are too smooth. Brutes have rough skin
5. Reach Brutes have smaller, longer feet with long toes. Brutes have tall, bulky, and short feet with short toes.
6. Reach Brutes have too much patience. Brutes are angry people that flip out.
7. Reach Brutes have perfectly straight legs and arms. Brutes have weird legs, with muscular bulges above the knees and forearms
8. Reach Brutes have thin, pointy teeth. Brutes have bulky and sharp teeth.
9. Reach Brutes have small mouths. Brutes have mouths that can open very wide and protrude outwards (and even fit MC's helmeted head inside of it)


There was some other stuff I also noted.

10. Reach Brutes have pointed chins. Normal Brutes have rounded chins.
11. Reach Brutes have gold eyes. Every brute seen in every other Halo has red eyes.
12. Everything is wrong with the skull...just find a picture...
13. The Noes is totally wrong on Reach brutes. It is too narrow, very small nostrils, and looks human. Normal brutes have wider noses with larger nostrils.
14. Halo 3 Brutes have pronounced and wide shoulders. This means they have large shoulders that are up at neck level. Reach Brutes have slouched shoulders, a totally different structure.

So yeah...there are many differences.

I think I even missed some stuff.


1. That is a noticeable difference, it actually looks kinda like the cone heads that some of the South American cultures would give themselves, do know what I'm talking about? Maybe these Brutes do that, or they just have a natural coney head, a possible genetic difference that developed in one tribe. And if you ask me, all the other incarnations of the Brutes look like their heads are somewhat conical, more so than a human head at least.
2. Eh, I didn't think the lips looked all that human, but heh, that's just me.
3. I haven't really seen any Reach Brute's eyes, so I can't comment on it really, but the older incarnations look like their eyes are a mix of red and gold, so having gold eyes isn't that much of a stretch, at least to me.
4. It is kinda smooth looking in some places, but it still looks rather rough to me. I think the other Brutes might have looked like they had rougher hides because of the graphics on Halo 3, like the humans look pretty rough-skinned too. And now Reach has infinitely better graphics.
5. I studied it really closely, feet seem to be just about the same.
6. I haven't really payed much attention to their combat personality, but I haven't really noticed any extraordinary patience or hanging back tactically. They charge right out and go for the kill whenever I've played, unlike the Elites who hang back until the right time to advance on you.
7. I haven't noticed, I'll give my thoughts when I've looked at it more.
8. Aren't pointy and sharp the same thing when it comes to teeth? But yeah, from what I've seen the 3/ODST Brutes do have larger teeth.
9. True, the Brutes in Reach do have smaller mouths, but they're not that much smaller and can still open plenty wide. Really? It never looked like it was wide enough to fit a helmet in their mouth :/
10. Eh, kinda hard to tell to me, seeing as the older Brutes chins are mostly covered up by their goatee/chin-beard.
11. Kinda already talked about this one, see 4.
12. Already talked about this one too xD
13. Eh, looks the same to me, Reach Brutes have a more narrow face, so of course the nose is a bit smaller, but it still looks the same to me.
14. Shoulders still look the same to me, but I haven't really studied it, but from all the screenshots I've seen they look almost exactly the same.

They are definitely different, I will give you that, but eh, I don't think they're all that different looking.

  • 03.09.2011 11:04 AM PDT

''We ride together, we die together, bro's and bad boys for life''

They basically shaved all the hair of the brutes.

  • 03.09.2011 11:08 AM PDT

Today iiiiis.... [insert day]

if you're looking at this, you should join Forever Forgers

why? because i'm a member.

What you've got to remember is that halo reach is a prequel. That means that back then brutes werent the alpha covenant being, far from it. The elites got all the fancy armour.

  • 03.09.2011 11:16 AM PDT