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Subject: What Military Branch are Spartans?

It says in Emile's bio that they are army.

  • 02.21.2011 8:12 AM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartan-III's?

Signatures are for squares.

Spartan III's SHOULD be Army, considering the director of the program is an Army Colonel.

  • 02.21.2011 8:15 AM PDT

Ignore my gamertag. It's actually Dragonzzilla.

I am so confused; I wish I can ask Bungie.

  • 02.21.2011 8:20 AM PDT

the spartan II project was navy but colonel ackerson secretly took away 2 spartans and created the spartan III program after them.Says so in the Ghosts of Onyx book.

  • 02.21.2011 8:33 AM PDT

it says it here btw

[Edited on 02.21.2011 8:39 AM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 8:38 AM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartans?

Posted by: Naked Crook
I see them as Navy. All the cool Spartans are in the Navy.

(Masterchief)


Navy/ONI has always been my impression. they all have navy ranks

  • 02.21.2011 8:47 AM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartan-III's?

So full of hate were our eyes that we could not see. Our war would yield countless dead but never victory. So let us cast arms aside and like discard our wrath. Thou, in faith, will keep us safe whilst we find the path.

There are no "Spartan-Is". that was the failed Project Orion, of which Johnson was one of the members that wasn't too messed up (think SII genetics program but with a much higher failure rate)

Spartan-IIs: "Navy" (Master Chief is E-9 rank in the Navy, and short for Master Chief Petty Officer.)

Spartan-IIIs: Mostly Navy/Marines, Noble being a/the exception.
and yes, Noble is Army; They use the DMR, which, "although it saw widespread use throughout all branches of the UNSC prior to 2548, it has since been superseded in use by the BR55 in all branches but the Army".
source: description of DMR on career stats page


[Edited on 02.21.2011 9:47 AM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 9:46 AM PDT

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Probably Navy, but I don't think "Branches" really exist in 2552. Just one big branch under the UNSC, like the Spartans, ODST, Marines, etc.

  • 02.21.2011 9:49 AM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartans?

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Spartan-IIs are marines/navy. Spartan IIIs are military.

  • 02.21.2011 10:21 AM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartan-III's?

All spartan IIs and IIIs are navy.

/thread

  • 02.21.2011 1:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Dragonzzilla
I am so confused; I wish I can ask Bungie.


Dragonzzilla, listen to me, bro.

Check out this link, and see for yourself. The UNSC is based on modern US Military ranks. In this picture you can see that there is no Commander or Lieutenant Commander in the army. So if Noble Team was and army squad, Kat would be a major (O-4) and Carter would be a Lieutenant Colonel (O-5).

There are commanders in the Army, but it isn't a rank, it's a title given to those who command troops. (i.e. an Army Lieutenant can be given the title "company commander", "battalion commander", "brigade commander", etc. However, they are not granted the rank of Commander, as it does not exist in the Army branch)

I've been a military brat all my life, and I totally understand that you want to make your novel as accurate as possible. I'm the same way, I can't stand it when books/movies/games portray the military incorrectly. So here you are. Hope this was helpful. I look forward to reading said novel upon its completion.

To reiterate: All Spartan II's and III's, including Noble Team, are in the Navy.

Stand Navy down the field, sails set to the sky.
We'll never change our course, so Army you steer shy-y-y-y.
Roll up the score, Navy, Anchors Aweigh.
Sail Navy down the field and sink the Army, sink the Army Grey.


I think you all dropped something... Your Jaws! Owned. lol.

[Edited on 02.21.2011 2:29 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 2:20 PM PDT


Posted by: Ddreigiau
There are no "Spartan-Is". that was the failed Project Orion, of which Johnson was one of the members that wasn't too messed up (think SII genetics program but with a much higher failure rate)

Spartan-IIs: "Navy" (Master Chief is E-9 rank in the Navy, and short for Master Chief Petty Officer.)

Spartan-IIIs: Mostly Navy/Marines, Noble being a/the exception.
and yes, Noble is Army; They use the DMR, which, "although it saw widespread use throughout all branches of the UNSC prior to 2548, it has since been superseded in use by the BR55 in all branches but the Army".
source: description of DMR on career stats page


As for this conjecture, they're Spartans. They can use whatever weapons they want. The only reason they used the DMR as opposed to the BR is because Reach's ground forces were primarily Army, therefore, BR's were hard to come by.

  • 02.21.2011 2:35 PM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartans?

"Sa kyr'am Nau tracyn kad, Vode An."

Spartan II's are Navy
Spartan III's are Army

  • 02.21.2011 2:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Frenzy256
Spartan II's are Navy
Spartan III's are Army


No, Spartan IIIs are Navy.

  • 02.21.2011 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: Frenzy256
Spartan II's are Navy
Spartan III's are Army


No, Spartan IIIs are Navy.

No, they are ONI and use army ranks.

Think of ONI as something akin to the US's CIA mixed with special forces. They oversee intelligence of the extra-terrestrial type (Office of Naval Intelligence) and recruit operatives. In the Spartan program's case, they made them. The Spartan IIs use naval ranks where as Spartan IIIs use army ranks.

  • 02.21.2011 3:30 PM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartan-III's?

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

Delta Force isn't technically Army they recruit the best from all branches. And even then they have to make it passed try outs. In fact isn't the official policy that Delta doesn't exist? Well if they did I suppose Army SOCOM would be in charge of them after all. So I guess we're both kind of right.

Posted by: manwith
Army.

Delta Force > Navy Seals

  • 02.21.2011 4:09 PM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartans?


Posted by: azliand
Posted by: the n00b pwner
Posted by: Frenzy256
Spartan II's are Navy
Spartan III's are Army


No, Spartan IIIs are Navy.

No, they are ONI and use army ranks.

Think of ONI as something akin to the US's CIA mixed with special forces. They oversee intelligence of the extra-terrestrial type (Office of Naval Intelligence) and recruit operatives. In the Spartan program's case, they made them. The Spartan IIs use naval ranks where as Spartan IIIs use army ranks.


Kat is a Lieutenant Commander, Carter is a Commander. These two ranks DO NOT EXIST in the Army. The Navy LCDR (O-4) is equivalent to an army MAJ while the Navy CDR (O-5) is equivalent to an army LTC.

  • 02.21.2011 4:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Naked Crook
Posted by: Dragonzzilla
I am confused about this; in Reach, Noble Team was Army-Branched associated. While Chief is Marine/Navy Branch.

I am trying to write a Halo Novel, and I wanted to check which Branch of Military are Spartans? Marines or Army?


Dude...Reach ruined everything...I stopped trying to figure things out a long time ago.

Don't worry...welcome to the Reach Confusion Club. I am also a member.


TfoR+Halsey's Journal= canon fixed

And S-III's are Army, hence the DMR

  • 02.21.2011 9:09 PM PDT
Subject: What Military Branch are Spartan-III's?
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Oh, for God's sake. This shouldn't have gotten this far. It was explained in the first response.

All Spartans are created under NavSpecWarCom (Naval Special Warfare Command), and deployed as Navy or ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence, or "N4vy 5pi3s lolwut") units.

The only known exception is Noble Team, who were transferred to Special Warfare Group Three. Even then, Special Warfare is it's own branch, headed by an Army Colonel under ONI command. This is the only connection of Spartans to the Army.

It's like, for instance, if a one team of SEALs were taken from the Navy, and put into a brand-new military branch specialising in Spec.Ops. (Like the Delta example a few posts up; but without Army ties)

The rest of the SEALs are still Navy, but that team that was put into another branch- while still SEALs- are not Navy. Nor are they Army, Marines, or Air Force.

Noble Team is not Army. They are not Navy. They are SpecWar.
All other Spartans, II's and III's alike, are Navy units.

Posted by: Metroidman42
And S-III's are Army, hence the DMR
How do you explain Alpha Company, Beta Company, Gamma Company, Delta Company, and their various teams and units under them; the 300-ish other Spartan-III's use MA5 variants, and serve under ONI Section-III.

[Edited on 02.21.2011 9:37 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 9:25 PM PDT

What a waste....

S-IIIs are Army, as Ackerson (the leader of the program) was in the Army. S-IIs were Navy.

  • 02.21.2011 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: Multijirachi
Spartans were originally meant to be part of the military, running operations that involved a lot of ONI secrets (Like taking a covenant ship)

But the first spartans werent as good as first thought, so they made spartan twos, which were then placed in the navy to be deployed on any covenant worlds, new worlds ect.

SPartan 3s were made by some other guy, and so they were put in military as there were HEAPS of them


Hey, the first Spartans were awesome: SSgt Avery Junior Johnson!

[Edited on 02.21.2011 9:55 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 9:55 PM PDT

The tide is turning, brothers! Let us take our kingdom back!


Posted by: ZedFish
Oh, for God's sake. This shouldn't have gotten this far. It was explained in the first response.

All Spartans are created under NavSpecWarCom (Naval Special Warfare Command), and deployed as Navy or ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence, or "N4vy 5pi3s lolwut") units.

The only known exception is Noble Team, who were transferred to Special Warfare Group Three. Even then, Special Warfare is it's own branch, headed by an Army Colonel under ONI command. This is the only connection of Spartans to the Army.

It's like, for instance, if a one team of SEALs were taken from the Navy, and put into a brand-new military branch specialising in Spec.Ops. (Like the Delta example a few posts up; but without Army ties)

The rest of the SEALs are still Navy, but that team that was put into another branch- while still SEALs- are not Navy. Nor are they Army, Marines, or Air Force.

Noble Team is not Army. They are not Navy. They are SpecWar.
All other Spartans, II's and III's alike, are Navy units.

Posted by: Metroidman42
And S-III's are Army, hence the DMR
How do you explain Alpha Company, Beta Company, Gamma Company, Delta Company, and their various teams and units under them; the 300-ish other Spartan-III's use MA5 variants, and serve under ONI Section-III.

According to you, this matter shouldn't be too confusing. And while you explain it really well and I shouldn't have any problems with it, I still have one.

Ackerson's an Army Colonel, isn't he? Did he create the SPARTAN-III's to serve under Section-III?

  • 02.21.2011 9:59 PM PDT


Posted by: OfTheBloodguard

Posted by: ZedFish
Oh, for God's sake. This shouldn't have gotten this far. It was explained in the first response.

All Spartans are created under NavSpecWarCom (Naval Special Warfare Command), and deployed as Navy or ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence, or "N4vy 5pi3s lolwut") units.

The only known exception is Noble Team, who were transferred to Special Warfare Group Three. Even then, Special Warfare is it's own branch, headed by an Army Colonel under ONI command. This is the only connection of Spartans to the Army.

It's like, for instance, if a one team of SEALs were taken from the Navy, and put into a brand-new military branch specialising in Spec.Ops. (Like the Delta example a few posts up; but without Army ties)

The rest of the SEALs are still Navy, but that team that was put into another branch- while still SEALs- are not Navy. Nor are they Army, Marines, or Air Force.

Noble Team is not Army. They are not Navy. They are SpecWar.
All other Spartans, II's and III's alike, are Navy units.

Posted by: Metroidman42
And S-III's are Army, hence the DMR
How do you explain Alpha Company, Beta Company, Gamma Company, Delta Company, and their various teams and units under them; the 300-ish other Spartan-III's use MA5 variants, and serve under ONI Section-III.

According to you, this matter shouldn't be too confusing. And while you explain it really well and I shouldn't have any problems with it, I still have one.

Ackerson's an Army Colonel, isn't he? Did he create the SPARTAN-III's to serve under Section-III?


He was in command of the SPARTAN III project which was was under ONI jurisdiction. They could of replaced Ackerson with a civilian and it wouldn't matter, it would still be ONI section 3

[Edited on 02.21.2011 10:04 PM PST]

  • 02.21.2011 10:02 PM PDT

The tide is turning, brothers! Let us take our kingdom back!


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Posted by: OfTheBloodguard

Posted by: ZedFish
Oh, for God's sake. This shouldn't have gotten this far. It was explained in the first response.

All Spartans are created under NavSpecWarCom (Naval Special Warfare Command), and deployed as Navy or ONI (Office of Naval Intelligence, or "N4vy 5pi3s lolwut") units.

The only known exception is Noble Team, who were transferred to Special Warfare Group Three. Even then, Special Warfare is it's own branch, headed by an Army Colonel under ONI command. This is the only connection of Spartans to the Army.

It's like, for instance, if a one team of SEALs were taken from the Navy, and put into a brand-new military branch specialising in Spec.Ops. (Like the Delta example a few posts up; but without Army ties)

The rest of the SEALs are still Navy, but that team that was put into another branch- while still SEALs- are not Navy. Nor are they Army, Marines, or Air Force.

Noble Team is not Army. They are not Navy. They are SpecWar.
All other Spartans, II's and III's alike, are Navy units.

Posted by: Metroidman42
And S-III's are Army, hence the DMR
How do you explain Alpha Company, Beta Company, Gamma Company, Delta Company, and their various teams and units under them; the 300-ish other Spartan-III's use MA5 variants, and serve under ONI Section-III.

According to you, this matter shouldn't be too confusing. And while you explain it really well and I shouldn't have any problems with it, I still have one.

Ackerson's an Army Colonel, isn't he? Did he create the SPARTAN-III's to serve under Section-III?


He was in command of the SPARTAN III project which was was under ONI jurisdiction they could of replaced Ackerson with a civilian and it wouldn't matter

Oh yeah, ONI. Forgot about their control over everything, HHNNNNGGGG. Thanks.

  • 02.21.2011 10:04 PM PDT

How did I escape? With difficulty. How did I plan this moment? With pleasure.

Those looking for a group to join, I suggest you join Gamma Company Spartans (check my groups page). We are a friendly and active community always looking for more members.

Navy. Did you know the ancient Spartans were part hom.ose.xual. So Bise.xual. That adds more to the stereotype that people in the Navy are ga y

  • 02.21.2011 10:04 PM PDT

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