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Subject: Star Wars vs. Halo Universe

spartans and elites pown clones,
but force beats everything

starkiller could destroy all the halos and master chief without touching them.
every clone or droid unit have a self destruction mechanism, so flood would not help, and if we include forerunners we have to include all the ancient star wars species too, and many of them are way better than the forerunners.
the death star is just one of the many superweapons in star wars,
and it sucks compared to the others.
the jedi may be honorable, but not the sith. they woul disarm anything without force powers before they would reach them.

sorry for spelling bad, I am not english

  • 02.25.2011 6:09 AM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Colonel Watts

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Colonel Watts
Force ghosts cannot be killed. They exist in a realm so far beyond your own you cannot even imagine it.


This is precisely what Neural Physics is: beyond comprehinsive matters of a physical universe.

Neural Weapons, such as the Halo Array, destroys literally anything with a conscious mind, no matter the "realm" or whatever. If it can interact with the physical realm we know of, or can interact with anything at all, Neural Weapons can destroy them.
But they're already deadz.

Halo and SW are different universes with different physical laws, in the end these debates are utterly pointless, especially when you introduce factors such as magic.

By contrast, what would Force Ghosts be capable of doing to the Precursors?Well, there have been isolated incidents when spirits of ancient Sith Lords have either corrupted the minds of, or even possessed the bodies of Jedi and other explorers, in a similar fashion to the Gravemind, perhaps? But this debate could go on forever, and I'll believe I'll concede now before it escalates into needless name-calling over something as trivial as this.


No problem. Debates like this are fun up and too the point where the fanboys arrive in masses and start spewing bull-blam!- and names at each other.

I'm actually surprised at the civility showed thus far in this one to be honest.

lightsabers vs energy sword

Tough one, but it depends on who's holding it. Both are made of plasma, but the Elites' shields could deflect the saber, while the saber could get caught in between the two sword blades and ripped out of the Jedi/Sith's hand.

But I suppose it can be said the saber is more natural to handle for humanoids.

Actually, I thought a lightsaber was made out of pure energized light/force energy. If that's true, I'm not so sure how that will work against a Plasma Sword.


A blade made of pure light is impossible. It wouldn't stop just at 4 feet or whatever, it'd keep going. It'd also be impossible to block other plasma bolts and lightsabers if it was merely just pure light.

Plasma however fits every characteristic of a lightsaber, so the only logical conclusion is that it's plasma.

Use of Halo array is not a valid arguement, and neither should forrunners or precursers. Precursers up and left, and the Forrunners killed themselves. Halo kills everything IN YOUR OWN GALAXY ONLY, and is not a weapon. It's a "rocks fall, everyone dies" button; you don't win. To be fair on that note, no Star Forge.

Why is it nobody read Cryptum? The Halos can move through slipspace and have been proven to be capable of isolationg to single star systems. On that note, I recall Born describing engines on the rim of one of the Halos.

Besides, its the Star Wars universe vs the Halo universe; its all fair game. Getting rid of the Star Forge would mean we'd have to get rid of 95% of Wars. Then it gets too technical and becomes less fun.

Its:

Precursors
Ancient Humanity
Forerunners
The Assembly
Flood
Covenant
and UNSC

VS

Unkowable ammounts of Star Wars factions.

There are several ways I can think of right now just off the top of my head how Halo could demolish Wars without losing a single ship.

s7eps for galac7ic domina7ion:

1) Send the Array through slipspace at the GFFA (Galaxy Far Far Away) and sterilize it. Do this over and over to the other galaxies until finished.

2) Send a single Precursor ship of any rate--even starfighter--to the Wars galaxy.

3) Send the Flood in a slipspace ship onto Coruscant. Need I say more? With a population of trillion+, The Flood'll have a field day.

4) Use the Forerunners technology to scramble entire galaxies by stalling the spin of them and throw the entire Wars galaxy into dark space

5) Use Forerunner technology to slip-space the primary Wars planets into the nearest sun, along with their ships.

6) Better yet, detonate the nearest sun to vaporize the Star Wars planets in the system. Do this from a distance of course.

7) Get either the Assembly, Medicant Bias, or the Gravemind to do some weird voodoo crap and literally use the cosmic plan of the universe these three seem to control--specifically The Assembly--to royally screw with the Wars galaxy. Will take time, but Wars will not know what hit them.

Some of them are stretching it, but are nontheless distinct possibilities.

  • 02.25.2011 6:13 AM PDT
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The Star Forge would be Star Wars' victory


If you're going back into the Old Republic, it's only fair to bring out the Forerunners, of which nothing in Star Wars' mainstream is even close to (I'm not knowledgeable in the obscure and wildly variable EU).

[Edited on 02.25.2011 2:37 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 2:36 PM PDT

Just bring in a Moa and Star Wars will be nothing but dust and echoes :)

  • 02.25.2011 3:06 PM PDT

Star Wars wins no doubt. Honestly do u think spartans and elites could stand up to jedis?

Super Star destoryers and all the rebels one would kill ad human carriers let alone covenant ones.

Death Star owns all

x wings>longswords
Clone gunship>Pelican
Scorpion>AT-TE

Clone Army +Droid Army+Rebel Army+Empire>Human Army+Covenant

Basically star wars wins

  • 02.25.2011 3:19 PM PDT


Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
Star Wars wins no doubt. Honestly do u think spartans and elites could stand up to jedis?

Super Star destoryers and all the rebels one would kill ad human carriers let alone covenant ones.

Death Star owns all

x wings>longswords
Clone gunship>Pelican
Scorpion>AT-TE

Clone Army +Droid Army+Rebel Army+Empire>Human Army+Covenant

Basically star wars wins


Read the rest of the thread. Star Wars can't win. Halo could defeat them without losing a single soldier

  • 02.25.2011 3:45 PM PDT

Based on the current incarnations (in which neither side utilizes forces that have long since been extinct or about as relevant to galactic politics as the modern congress - a factor that qualifies in Star Wars lore with the "galaxy engineering" Celestials and Architects) the factions present in the current SW lore (late Republic-Empire) should quite easily grind down the current Halo factions (pre-schism Covenant) with apparent ease.

Superior FTL (high end Hyperdrive - just under a billion times the speed of light - performance preeminently wipes the floor with the highest end Covenant feat), an unparalleled industrial strength (so much so that they could build the second - 900km - Death Star within less than a year, whilst their largest shipyards could pump out the equivelant of a thousand Star Destroyers in the space of ten months), millions of vessels, tens of millions of worlds, nearly a billion colonies, possibly just under a hundred trillion ground troops in total and the material strength to build artificial planets as gifts to loyal Imperial officers (see: Crystal Star) and the demonstrated technological capacity to destroy planets or ignite stellar collapses.

Against other conventional forces the GE bulldozes the UNSC and Covenant; throw a million years worth of extinct alien Precurors into the mix and it suddenly becomes very messy.

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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

If it was a Spartan vs a clone trooper or a stormtrooper, then the Spartan would win because clone/stormtroopers can't shoot worth -blam!-! For the rest of the battle, I have no clue who would win.

  • 02.25.2011 8:23 PM PDT

The problem with massive wars on a galactic such as this one (with conventional opponents) is that it never - ever - comes down to the kind of comparisons people are making.

Take for example such comments as "Elites > Clone Troopers"; it is true that individually an Elite is physically superior to a Clone (although that Blaster would blow an Elite's shield in a few hits - especially when you consider what a seven round burst of Noble Six's rifle did to that Zealot's shield at the Visegrad relay station - a rifle firing 7.62 mm rounds no less), but what happens when said Clone is supported by not just other Troopers, but has a full array of armor, air and orbital support?

Modern wars aren't fought like the duels of old and armies no longer elect their best troopers to square off in one on one combat; instead they optimize in force mobility, striking hard and striking fast against targets of opportunity.

Why would the Empire (or the Republic) elect to take Earth head on, when they can just as easily use their vastly superior FTL to throw the UNSC or Covenant into disparate chaos from the outside in? Why not attack the poorly defended outer colonies, fuel depots or vital population centers and send the enemy spiraling out of control before you even have a chance of landing Troops?

  • 02.25.2011 8:40 PM PDT


Posted by: Zero_Patience
The problem with massive wars on a galactic such as this one (with conventional opponents) is that it never - ever - comes down to the kind of comparisons people are making.

Take for example such comments as "Elites > Clone Troopers"; it is true that individually an Elite is physically superior to a Clone (although that Blaster would blow an Elite's shield in a few hits - especially when you consider what a seven round burst of Noble Six's rifle did to that Zealot's shield at the Visegrad relay station - a rifle firing 7.62 mm rounds no less), but what happens when said Clone is supported by not just other Troopers, but has a full array of armor, air and orbital support?

Modern wars aren't fought like the duels of old and armies no longer elect their best troopers to square off in one on one combat; instead they optimize in force mobility, striking hard and striking fast against targets of opportunity.

Why would the Empire (or the Republic) elect to take Earth head on, when they can just as easily use their vastly superior FTL to throw the UNSC or Covenant into disparate chaos from the outside in? Why not attack the poorly defended outer colonies, fuel depots or vital population centers and send the enemy spiraling out of control before you even have a chance of landing Troops?


Because tactically, the Star Wars universe sucks, and I can safely say that, no problem. Wars is all about epic battles with huge #s of ships and little strategic movements. Don't they literally call this "Empire syndrome" or something?

They still fight like a water-based navy, where as Halo's ships are fast and nimble.

Also note that the Galactic Empire is composed of some -blam!- ship designs. Putting two obviously exposed shield generators on your most obvious target that also happens to be your command bridge AND holds the reactor core is probably the worst design for a ship I've ever seen. Ever.

Besides, we're talking about the full universes of the two sides, not current incarnation (this is not Factpile). And again, either way, the primary cannons of a Halo warship are at the very least the equal to a nuclear bomb, like a Covie plasma torp being calculated at several megatons and a Frigate MAC at something like 62 kilotons or whatever. Bring in the Forerunners and then...well, I need not say anything.

I've never seen a Star Destroyer decimate another ship nuke-style in one shot in the movies before except for when a Venator effectively "glassed" a CIS Frigate in ep. 3. Wars ships are dangerous because of the shear number of guns on their hulls, not really their strength, which is probably better compared to a UNSC Archer missile. A lot of UNSC Archer missiles.

  • 02.25.2011 9:01 PM PDT

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Because tactically, the Star Wars universe sucks, and I can safely say that, no problem. Wars is all about epic battles with huge #s of ships and little strategic movements. Don't they literally call this "Empire syndrome" or something?


We must have been playing two separate games, because as I recall, the battles over High Charity, the Ark, Earth and limited skirmishes we witnessed in Reach weren't delegated by warships that danced like space ballerinas at high end C speeds; in fact it seemed strictly like WWII in space (as with most visual space operas).

Unless you can correct me, of course, and point to me these stunning examples of agile Covenant and UNSC warships?

They still fight like a water-based navy, where as Halo's ships are fast and nimble.

Just like in Halo 2, 3, Wars and Reach, right? Oh wait, no, they performed nothing like their novel counterparts in even the slightest.

Also note that the Galactic Empire is composed of some -blam!- ship designs. Putting two obviously exposed shield generators

Actually they are sensor domes, the designer of the ISD and the SSD even refers to them as such. This quote comes from the professional report of Richard Edlund about ILM's work on Return of the Jedi, in the journal CINEFEX in 1983. This is a primary, contemporary source. There is no more authoritative source on ROTJ.

We're also still working on the sequence where Mad Max crashes his A-wing into Vader's ship and causes the star destroyer to lose control and crash into the Deathstar. The penetration shot with the mushroom-cloud explosion we've had for some time, and we've got the shot where the ship's been hit and is starting to heel over. A very large explosion is coming out of the bridge area and it's causing several others to go as well; and one of the big radar domes up on top has been blown away, and that's spewing flames. It's pretty spectacular. Between that sort of closeup of the bridge section and the long-shot of the surface, we need two more cuts of the ship continuing to heel over and dropping towards the Deathstar like an arrow. We've shot a number of elements on those - explosions and things that have to be projected onto the miniatures - and so they're pretty much ready to go. Don Dow will be shooting those tomorrow.

CINEFEX #13, p.55, 3 February 1983

on your most obvious target that also happens to be your command bridge AND holds the reactor core is probably the worst design for a ship I've ever seen. Ever.

Do some research. The reactor of most Imperial vessels are found in the center mass of the vessel (I direct you to the following link), with auxiliary and secondary reactors stationed around the guns and the shield generators - purely for redundancy:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Reactors1.JPG

And IIRC, don't most UNSC vessels have exposed bridges? At least SW vessels are shielded, thus protecting the bridge towers, what's the UNSC's excuse for such a similar design flaw?

Besides, we're talking about the full universes of the two sides, not current incarnation (this is not Factpile).

Which I acknowledged in my first post. Read much? Again, with conventional - non-extinct - forces, it goes in the favor of the GE/Republic.

Is it too much to ask for people to read?

And again, either way, the primary cannons of a Halo warship are at the very least the equal to a nuclear bomb, like a Covie plasma torp being calculated at several megatons and a Frigate MAC at something like 62 kilotons or whatever. Bring in the Forerunners and then...well, I need not say anything.

And vaporizing nickel-iron asteroids in Empire Strikes Back with just the light cannons alone is considered puny now? As I recall it would take nothing short of half a megaton to vaporize a ten meter wide iron asteroid in a fraction of a second with a beam weapon (since beam weapons ablate material on contact), and these are just the light cannons.

Canon figures ranges in the compendium of canon, with Star Destroyers tanking multi-megaton impacts to their shields (see: The story of Anakin skywalker), having "gigatonnage" heavy cannons (See: Bounty Hunters) or weapons that can vaporize small towns (ROTS novelization); whereas even the light cannons - from their depiction in the episode V - easily exceed the firepower of a UNSC MAC round.

And a Star Destroyer is covered from "head to toe" in these things.

I've never seen a Star Destroyer decimate another ship nuke-style in one shot in the movies before except for when a Venator effectively "glassed" a CIS Frigate in ep. 3. Wars ships are dangerous because of the shear number of guns on their hulls, not really their strength, which is probably better compared to a UNSC Archer missile.

LOL

Did you just - in all sincerity - compare the behavior of non-inert materials in a vacuum? Starships are not inert objects, and in space there is no air to resist the expansion of explosives, ergo comparing them is like comparing the Flying Spaghetti Monster to Jesus.

Neither of them exist, therefore neither of them can be quantified. Likewise saying that two explosions in space look similar therefore they behave similarly is horrendously ignorant.


[Edited on 02.25.2011 9:30 PM PST]

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Posted by: Colonel Watts
Well, there have been isolated incidents when spirits of ancient Sith Lords have either corrupted the minds of, or even possessed the bodies of Jedi and other explorers, in a similar fashion to the Gravemind and mr OB, perhaps? But this debate could go on forever, and I'll believe I'll concede now before it escalates into needless name-calling over something as trivial as this.

Sorry for my English, it's my third language and I'm new to this site.


If only it were common that people could write this well in their first language...


[Edited on 02.25.2011 9:57 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 9:47 PM PDT

^ This. Cannot agree with you anymore sir.

  • 02.25.2011 9:50 PM PDT

THERES AN ELITE IN MY TURRET!

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Posted by: HurriedDiscoman
Yes also include the forerunners... so what the Empire made a bioweapon that turned poeple into zombies which could be compared to the flood annd we all know forerrunners + flood = badness


you bring up an interesting point. if EVERYTHING in the halo universe was there, the flood would eventually win


flood cannot infest droids starwars wins :)

  • 02.26.2011 4:18 AM PDT

they can infect clones and then destroy the droids

  • 02.26.2011 4:42 AM PDT

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I have read all the posts in this thread thus far, and I couldn't take it anymore, I had to add my 2 pennies. First off, are we comparing official cannon? If we bases this conversation purely off Halo Games vs. Star Wars Movies, clearly SW would win, in ground and space. This is of course assuming that the the Empire/Rebellion(Or CIS/Republic, if you prefer) and Humanity/Covenant weren't at war with each other, but instead fighting together against the factions of opposite universes. The SW troops would have the various ground forces, such as shock troopers, and snipers, as would Halo's troops, and Star Wars would Have its Jedi and Sith against Halo's Elites and Spartans. The regular troops outcome could be determined by whatever variable you want, including the fact SW troops have energy weapons, or Halo's troops have lead-based weapons, but the bottom line would be this. Spartans/Elites would stand no chance whatsoever against the Jedi/Sith. No matter how bad-ass a Spartan or Elite may be, they are defeated simply because a sith can cut of his breathing from a distance, and from some of the stronger sith, even have shocks of electricity coursing through their bodies. Its something that a Spartan or Elite just could not handle. And what if they took the battle into space? Sure, the elites can glass a planet, in a very lengthy amount of time, whereas a super-weapon such as the star destroyer could just charge up a 30 second laser shot and rip any covenant, or human-for that matter, ship to pieces. Smaller fighters like the X-wing or Tie Fighter would out-maneuver pelicans or phantoms, while out-gunning Falcons and Banshee's. As far as ground vehicles go, the Scarab would beat any ground vehicle in any of the SW movies, but that's what heavy bombers like the Y-wing are for right? I guess the space battle wouldn't be as uneven as the ground battle, but on the ground, Halo wouldn't stand a chance, and they barely stand a chance in space. I don't even want to get into the flood, because that makes the argument boring. The whole thing about firing the Halo rings though, people seem to think that the SW side is just going to let the enemy fly to this ring, and activate it, and let them get away. If they were to try to flee to a halo ring to fire it, the SW forces would follow, and destroy the ring. Of course, if PRINCESS LEIA betrayed the Star Wars forces and gave the secret plans to Commander Keyes, then maybe halo's forces could analyze the blueprints and find a weakness in the Death Star, making it a bit more even of a space fight. But why would she do that?

  • 02.26.2011 5:10 AM PDT


Posted by: Zero_Patience
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Because tactically, the Star Wars universe sucks, and I can safely say that, no problem. Wars is all about epic battles with huge #s of ships and little strategic movements. Don't they literally call this "Empire syndrome" or something?


We must have been playing two separate games, because as I recall, the battles over High Charity, the Ark, Earth and limited skirmishes we witnessed in Reach weren't delegated by warships that danced like space ballerinas at high end C speeds; in fact it seemed strictly like WWII in space (as with most visual space operas).

Unless you can correct me, of course, and point to me these stunning examples of agile Covenant and UNSC warships?

-----So you must be unaware that the Halo games are extremely limited in their graphical abilities. They are rendered using the game's engine. Almost every single space battle we've ever seen in the Halo games have been rendered back drops, not a real-time battle.

The books would obviously be able to depict it more accurately.

They still fight like a water-based navy, where as Halo's ships are fast and nimble.

Just like in Halo 2, 3, Wars and Reach, right? Oh wait, no, they performed nothing like their novel counterparts in even the slightest.

-----see above

Also note that the Galactic Empire is composed of some -blam!- ship designs. Putting two obviously exposed shield generators

Actually they are sensor domes, the designer of the ISD and the SSD even refers to them as such. This quote comes from the professional report of Richard Edlund about ILM's work on Return of the Jedi, in the journal CINEFEX in 1983. This is a primary, contemporary source. There is no more authoritative source on ROTJ.

We're also still working on the sequence where Mad Max crashes his A-wing into Vader's ship and causes the star destroyer to lose control and crash into the Deathstar. The penetration shot with the mushroom-cloud explosion we've had for some time, and we've got the shot where the ship's been hit and is starting to heel over. A very large explosion is coming out of the bridge area and it's causing several others to go as well; and one of the big radar domes up on top has been blown away, and that's spewing flames. It's pretty spectacular. Between that sort of closeup of the bridge section and the long-shot of the surface, we need two more cuts of the ship continuing to heel over and dropping towards the Deathstar like an arrow. We've shot a number of elements on those - explosions and things that have to be projected onto the miniatures - and so they're pretty much ready to go. Don Dow will be shooting those tomorrow.

CINEFEX #13, p.55, 3 February 1983

---in ROTJ, we see one of those sensor domes explode and immediately after, the star destroyer loses its shielding. Everything I have ever seen after that, be it books, games or whatever, has stated hitting those two domes will knock out the shields. So now I'm suddenly expected to toss all of that out the window because of what one guy said?

If George Lucas said it, fine, THEN it would be G-Canon, but as it stands, G-canon indicates destroying those domes knock the shields out.

on your most obvious target that also happens to be your command bridge AND holds the reactor core is probably the worst design for a ship I've ever seen. Ever.

Do some research. The reactor of most Imperial vessels are found in the center mass of the vessel (I direct you to the following link), with auxiliary and secondary reactors stationed around the guns and the shield generators - purely for redundancy:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/File:Reactors1.JPG

And IIRC, don't most UNSC vessels have exposed bridges? At least SW vessels are shielded, thus protecting the bridge towers, what's the UNSC's excuse for such a similar design flaw?

To see. I never stated the UNSC would be able to comfortably handle the Imperials; it'd take about 3 UNSC Destroyers to one Imperial-II Destroyer. I'm saying the Covenant, which have very much superior designs, would be able to comfortably handle them.

Besides, we're talking about the full universes of the two sides, not current incarnation (this is not Factpile).

Which I acknowledged in my first post. Read much? Again, with conventional - non-extinct - forces, it goes in the favor of the GE/Republic.

Is it too much to ask for people to read?

-----I read, I'm just making sure that is indeed what you're talking about, because if you recall you also did set up the scenario to be current incarnation (which even on Factpile I find to be a -blam!- rule) initially. Then you switched over, but I had two situations in one post. Just making sure.

And again, either way, the primary cannons of a Halo warship are at the very least the equal to a nuclear bomb, like a Covie plasma torp being calculated at several megatons and a Frigate MAC at something like 62 kilotons or whatever. Bring in the Forerunners and then...well, I need not say anything.

And vaporizing nickel-iron asteroids in Empire Strikes Back with just the light cannons alone is considered puny now? As I recall it would take nothing short of half a megaton to vaporize a ten meter wide iron asteroid in a fraction of a second with a beam weapon (since beam weapons ablate material on contact), and these are just the light cannons.

Canon figures ranges in the compendium of canon, with Star Destroyers tanking multi-megaton impacts to their shields (see: The story of Anakin skywalker), having "gigatonnage" heavy cannons (See: Bounty Hunters) or weapons that can vaporize small towns (ROTS novelization); whereas even the light cannons - from their depiction in the episode V - easily exceed the firepower of a UNSC MAC round.

And a Star Destroyer is covered from "head to toe" in these things.

-----Oh god it has begun......

Okay, let's try to keep this simple and civilized. Just here me out. watch this. Specifically when the Destroyer attacks the medical Frigate. You mean to tell me those little explosions were the size of a nuclear bomb?

Now again, this is why I -blam!- ing hate these Star Wars vs_____debates. They ALWAYS bring out these rediculous numbers that directly contradict the movies. Now about the Empire Strikes Back thing. Had the possibility that being a movie from the 80's with limited special effects ever come up?

Its one thing to show a Destroyer getting shattered on screen (which they do in RotJ). Its a larger object and is easier to capture in footage, but a pint sized roid that was in reality a potato would not shatter to well on screen. It'd look stupid as hell.

You also mean to tell me the space battles in Revenge were also using megaton nuclear explosions? The only one that I might accept was when the Venator "glassed" the CIS Frigate since it tore it in half, but those other lasers were NOT the equal to a nuclear bomb.

You can site these other sources all you want, but G-Canon overrides all other forms of canon. That is anything stated in the movies and how its depicted. Anything in the movies that contradict itself are overrided by the most recent incarnation of those movies. Anything in any other medium, like books, that contradict the movies are irrelevant.


I've never seen a Star Destroyer decimate another ship nuke-style in one shot in the movies before except for when a Venator effectively "glassed" a CIS Frigate in ep. 3. Wars ships are dangerous because of the shear number of guns on their hulls, not really their strength, which is probably better compared to a UNSC Archer missile.

LOL

Did you just - in all sincerity - compare the behavior of non-inert materials in a vacuum? Starships are not inert objects, and in space there is no air to resist the expansion of explosives, ergo comparing them is like comparing the Flying Spaghetti Monster to Jesus.

Neither of them exist, therefore neither of them can be quantified. Likewise saying that two explosions in space look similar therefore they behave similarly is horrendously ignorant.


In space explosions shouldn't even be physically possible. Nuclear bombs shouldn't even be possible. If we want to go by your realistic physics logic, then Star Wars loses because non of its weapons should be even possible. but these sure do look like atmospheric explosions to me

Those ships should not be in flames, pieces of metal should not be being blown out of ships like a missile impact and, according to you, these detonations are supposed to be the equal to a nuclear explosion. See why I can't stand the Star Wars EU?

Try this for example. You say that Wars ships are known for tanking massive megaton and even gigaton sized explosions, right? Then how the hell did a small little iron asteroid blow the bridge of a Star Destroyer clean off in Episode 5 in an accidental impact?

G-Canon says: they cannot take supermassive nuclear explosions.

And you say that vaporizing an asteroid about 10 meters in diameter would take about half a megaton? Okay, sure, youd be right.

Well in that case, a Covenant Assault Carrier vaporized a 3 kilometer in diameter asteroid in the book First Strike with a single malfunctioning plasma torpedo. It took a slight bit longer then the Destroyer's ten meter one, but it did it nontheless.

Just try to keep it civil people. Don't want this to turn to a fiasco.

Side question: how does it play out with the entire Halo universe at play?

  • 02.26.2011 7:12 AM PDT


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Posted by: Son Of Mountains
Posted by: HurriedDiscoman
Yes also include the forerunners... so what the Empire made a bioweapon that turned poeple into zombies which could be compared to the flood annd we all know forerrunners + flood = badness


you bring up an interesting point. if EVERYTHING in the halo universe was there, the flood would eventually win


flood cannot infest droids starwars wins :)


The Forerunners likely had about as many warships as the CIS had droids if you consider their qurentine fleet around the Prophets had several trillion vessels at the tail end of the Flood War (yes I'm aware the CIS had sveral quintillion droids in total)

And don't you think the Forerunners thought the same way about the sentinals? Look at what happened >.>

If you're talking about the Flood vs Star Wars, the ironic thing is that Star Wars is TOO powerful. They have way to many biologicals in their galaxy, the Flood'll have a field day. In fact, I'm pretty sure the Flood would consume more people on Coruscant then they did in the entire Human-Covenant-Flood War.

Then when you consider the infnite armies of the Empire because of their cloning facilities on Kamino, again with the irony, they'd just be giving more food to the Flood and they'll very quickly expand far past their "controllable" point and then proceed to consume the GFFA

  • 02.26.2011 7:20 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

A Quick Summary of how this thread, and every thread like it always goes:

Halo Guy: Powerful thing.
Star Wars Guy: More Powerful Thing.
Halo Guy: Halo Rings
Star Wars Guy: Points out weaknesses and limitations in rings.
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.
Star Wars Guy: Goes into all of Star Wars' stupidly, vastly overpowered expanded universe.
Halo Guy: Tries to bring up some already used and refuted argument.
New Guy Just Joining the Thread: Something about something that was already discussed on page one.
Halo Guy: Oh yeah, well Flood and Forerunner.
Star Wars Guy: Droids, Star Forge, The Force, Mandalorians, Death Star, Jedi, Sith, Star Dreadnought, Yuuzhan Vong, Force Ghosts, and every other ridiculous thing in the Star Wars universe as well as every race and subspecies and creature and of course, Ewoks.
Halo Guy: Yeah, well it doesn't even matter because we're just playing with imaginary things here, so I'm still right because I believe I'm right. (The equivalent of throwing the chess board across the room.)
Star Wars Guy: *Sigh*

[Edited on 02.26.2011 7:30 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 7:29 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: dahuterschuter
A Quick Summary of how this thread, and every thread like it always goes:

Halo Guy: Powerful thing.
Star Wars Guy: More Powerful Thing.
Halo Guy: Halo Rings
Star Wars Guy: Points out weaknesses and limitations in rings.
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.
Star Wars Guy: Goes into all of Star Wars' stupidly, vastly overpowered expanded universe.
Halo Guy: Tries to bring up some already used and refuted argument.
New Guy Just Joining the Thread: Something about something that was already discussed on page one.
Halo Guy: Oh yeah, well Flood and Forerunner.
Star Wars Guy: Droids, Star Forge, The Force, Mandalorians, Death Star, Jedi, Sith, Star Dreadnought, Yuuzhan Vong, Force Ghosts, and every other ridiculous thing in the Star Wars universe as well as every race and subspecies and creature and of course, Ewoks.
Halo Guy: Yeah, well it doesn't even matter because we're just playing with imaginary things here, so I'm still right because I believe I'm right. (The equivalent of throwing the chess board across the room.)
Star Wars Guy: *Sigh*


I hope this post is just a joke.

People underestimate Halo too much.

  • 02.26.2011 7:41 AM PDT

When I think of Star Wars vs Halo, I instantly think of their main factions:

Halo:

UNSC
Covenant

Star Wars:

Empire
Rebellion

None of theis Forerunner-Precursor vs Rakata-Celestial-Whobleebkeewhatever crap.

[Edited on 02.26.2011 8:21 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 8:20 AM PDT

One Love,
One Tru7h,
One Destiny.


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Secret third faction!

Ewoks Win! Let the celebration begin!

[Edited on 02.26.2011 8:55 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 8:50 AM PDT

"Shall we let the Flood consume our holy city? Turn High Charity into another of their wretched hives? No enemy has ever withstood our might. The Flood, too, shall fail."

-Prophet of Truth.


Posted by: SPARTAN925
Hell yeah,i agree with Tallestspark!


Haha thanks :)

  • 02.26.2011 11:13 AM PDT