- ROBERTO jh
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Posted by: Pewter
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
I was low on time so couldn't really explain.
By soul killer I mean to say it wipes consciousness out of the existence. The Flood need to latch onto the host's neural signal to infect properly, and harvest its consiousness to further the Flood's knowledge. It also needs the biomass, so could theoretically consume destroyed tissue as well, if not infect it.
Halo solves this problem by erasing things with a conscious mind from existence, as well as--apparently--its biomass. It simply erases it.
More evidence for this can be gleaned from how the Halo's are the only weapon in the entire universe that can destroy Precursor Neural Material. Neural Material worked off of the properties that the conscious mind and the universe are one, that the universe lives, but on a totally different plane of reality then can be conceived of. Precursors tapped into that universal power of mind and ascended to godhood.
So you see, nothing, not even the Force, can do anything to the Precursors except for a Halo exclusive science.
And if you say the Force can destroy the Precursors: prove it. Is it a Neural Weapon? No?
Then its useless.
Hogwash, just because something is Damn near Invulnerable in thier own Universe does NOT mean it is Invulnerable to everything in the Multi-verse.
There are other ways to destroy things besides lugging Rocks, bullets, and Lasers at it.
Dimensional Constructs for Example, or in lay mans terms, opening Holes in reality. Black Holes, Slipspace Portals, Light Hawk Wings, GBE, the list goes on. Things thought to be invincible typicly get torn appart by things that flat out ignore the laws of physics. For a Halo Example, the Improvised Slipspace Bomb used on the Covenant Super Carrier in Halo Reach. Things tend to react Badly when a hole in space and time gets torn open in the middle of it.
In SW's The Vong use Black Holes for Point Defense, Palpatine uses Force Storms(Force Generated Worms holes), and the Maw; an Artifical Cluster of Black Holes put in place by the Celestials.
And for your claim that the Precursors Accended? Bull-blam!-, The Forerunner Killed Them.
Last precursor
"We meet again, young one. I am the last of those that gave you breath and shape and form, millions of years ago. I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed. I am the last Precursor, and our answer is at hand."
You oh so holy Precursors are not gods, they are in the same boat as the Forerunners; Ancient and Extinct race that left behind a lot of Technological Goodies. They can go join the line behind the Ancients, Celestials, Old Ones, and Many More such races.
And as a Final Question, Do you know what a Neuron is? It is not some kind of life force or soul, it is a Cell, one that is central to the Nervous System. This is what the Halos Radiation Targets, this is why it is effective against the Flood as well as its food. It doesn't kill what most fictions call the Soul, its Kills the Sack of meat the soul resides in.
Yeah....why not? They have a consciousness just like Halo's people do. Nothing is preventing it from working. It'd destroy the Jedi and the Yuuzhaan Vong for sure, as it would the rest of the conscious minds in the Wars universe untill all that's left are droids without a leader.
Don't see where you're going with that one.
I was working off the strange Idea that Halos killed Souls, and I was going to Say the Force Probably is not the Same thing as what ever The Haloverse has for souls and an Afterlife. If the Halos Killed Souls, then there was a chance that the Halos effects Couldn't Touch the Force.
But after doing a bit of Research into the Halo Arrays operation and Neurons; Yes Halos should work on Star Wars forces.
Fortunatly for Star Wars, those Halo Arrays are fairly weak considering that Instalation 04 was destroyed by a ships reactor going critical. Not even a Nuke, but a Ship malfunction(Abiet a Purposeful one).
You just need to calm down man. Let me clarify myself even more.
We know for a fact that the ONLY thing that can touch the Precursors is a Neural Weapon, just like how the only thing that can touch Wolverine is an adamantium bullet, or a silver bullet to a werewolf.
Everything else is pure speculation based only on the laws of the universe as WE understand them. Would a black hole suck in a Precursor building or some kind of structure.
According to humanity's, and thus your and mine, understanding of the laws of physics, yes, it should.
But should any structure of any type be able to survive the infinitely dense preassures and heat of being sucked into the surface of a planet for several hundred million years and come out unscathed in our laws of the universe? Should any structure be perfectly invunerable to everything?
No. That's the point I'm trying to make. You say weapons outside of physics could destroy the Precursors but what you fail to realize is that the Precursors do indeed exist OUTSIDE of the laws of physics.
Take the Precursor World Bridges for example. They are said to be able to flawlessly connect entire planets in a physical way no one ever dreamed of. The impossible preassures that must be forced on them must be so -blam!- ing massive, they surpass even exatonnage, or even yottatonnage.
It gets even more interesting when you take into account different orbits of different planets. Our laws of physics state those bridges should snap like twigs. But the Precursors are unbounded by the laws of reality, allowing them to craft technologies impervious to all know forces.
Then you say that the Wars universe could use things like black holes to destroy them.
Fine. Let's play with the idea a black hole weapon could destroy Precursor ships. Centerpoint Station comes to mind.
In order for it to work effectively, the Centerpoint would have to effectively destroy stars and planets in every known galaxy in this universe and maybe even the next one to defeat the Precursors. I say the next one because we already know the Forerunners could traverse between alternate realities like shun-space and Natal Void so its an exceptionally safe bet to believe they traversed universes too.
So what you basically mean to tell me, is that Centerpoint would be able to pull this off without the Flood or Precursors or even the Assembly--who appear to be all-knowing slipspace entities--from ever figuring out where it is?
God help them if the Flood take it over.
So answer me this: Centerpoint can only strike against objects in this universe. What happens when Halo enters slipspace? Its not in this universe, its an overlapping existence.
The Forerunners established entire worlds in slipspace, so Centerpoint's not getting to them. All they'd really have to do is drop a NOVA bomb out of slipspace right where Centerpoint is and destroy it. We've known for a while now that even the UNSC could launch nukes from slipspace, why not a NOVA with Forerunner-accurate jumps?
Let me clarify something else. I said ascended because of their unique oness with the universe. The Forerunners war with them is technically debatable considering who said it happened, but either way.
Forerunners could fight the Precursors because Halo has access to their technology. Its not too far fetched to think that the subordinate race of the Forerunners--being the egomaniacs they are--took up Neural arms against the Precursors and drove them out to become the dominant race in the galaxy.
Difference is, again, Halo has the weapons. The crew of the USS Voyager defeated the Q because they had access to the Q's weapons, unkillable unless shot with those god-like weapons. Halo wouldn't be able to definitively defeat the Q due to lack of Q weaponry. Wars wouldn't be able to do the same with either the Q or the Precursors because they do not have their weaponry.
In both cases we have a race of immensly powerful god-beings undefeatable by anything but their own universe. We call this the eternal conundrum.
An unstoppable force (Q) meets an immovable object (Precursor). Who wins?
You can't answer it. Now Centerpoint Station can be stopped, Death Star can be stopped, the sun-crusher can be stopped, but yet you still think they can defeat the Precursors.
Say the human race, or Man has the Tsar bomb, a 50 megaton Hydrogen bomb, most powerful bomb ever built by man, along with every weapon ever built by human hands, including nukes.
Put man up against God. Give God a twelve gauge, doubled barrelled redneck shotgun.
Who wins?
I seriously fail to see why you don't understand this.