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Subject: Star Wars vs. Halo Universe


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
In space explosions shouldn't even be physically possible. Nuclear bombs shouldn't even be possible.
Technically, they can when it comes to the intitial energy release. Just don't expect to see lingering fire, though.

  • 02.26.2011 11:18 AM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh
In space explosions shouldn't even be physically possible. Nuclear bombs shouldn't even be possible.
Technically, they can when it comes to the intitial energy release. Just don't expect to see lingering fire, though.


Explosions work off of air compression. That's what a shockwave is. When you have no means of transfering explosive energy, no air, then an explosion shoudn't work save for maybe a brief flash like you said. But it does in Wars.

Notice how the Haloverse doesn't use explosives? Archers, to me, always stuck me as long rods that ram another ship rather then actually explode, but I don't know.

Either way, Halo space weapons use direct kinetic impacts, burning hot plasma and infinitely dense light weapons that cut, burn, and shatter starships rather then explode them. That's why Star Wars is science-fantasy and Halo military science-fiction.

[Edited on 02.26.2011 1:59 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 1:58 PM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

That's a really good point. Don't forget the ability to use EMP, the Ion cannon from Wars as well.

  • 02.27.2011 2:39 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: hotshot revan II
I hope this post is just a joke.

People underestimate Halo too much.


Not a joke at all. Read this thread and every other one like it for verfication.

  • 02.27.2011 2:41 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: hotshot revan II
I hope this post is just a joke.

People underestimate Halo too much.


Not a joke at all. Read this thread and every other one like it for verfication.


Only thing anyone needs to know is that Star Wars is physically incapable of touching the Precursors or stopping the Flood. But especially the Precursors.

Read by seven ways the Halo universe can commit mass genocide on the Wars universe without losing a single ship.

  • 02.27.2011 2:45 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Only thing anyone needs to know is that Star Wars is physically incapable of touching the Precursors or stopping the Flood. But especially the Precursors.

Read by seven ways the Halo universe can commit mass genocide on the Wars universe without losing a single ship.


Please see:

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.

  • 02.27.2011 2:50 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Only thing anyone needs to know is that Star Wars is physically incapable of touching the Precursors or stopping the Flood. But especially the Precursors.

Read by seven ways the Halo universe can commit mass genocide on the Wars universe without losing a single ship.


Please see:

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.


Yeah, I read that. So tell me: what can Wars do to the Precursors?

  • 02.27.2011 2:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Only thing anyone needs to know is that Star Wars is physically incapable of touching the Precursors or stopping the Flood. But especially the Precursors.

Read by seven ways the Halo universe can commit mass genocide on the Wars universe without losing a single ship.


Please see:

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.


Yeah, I read that. So tell me: what can Wars do to the Precursors?
QFT, the precursors are gods. they exist in many dimensions, unbreakable technology. how can chocking a guy across the room compare to that? even a single forerunner fortress vessel would probably destroy all star destroyers in the star wars universe.

  • 02.27.2011 3:14 PM PDT


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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Only thing anyone needs to know is that Star Wars is physically incapable of touching the Precursors or stopping the Flood. But especially the Precursors.

Read by seven ways the Halo universe can commit mass genocide on the Wars universe without losing a single ship.


Please see:

Posted by: dahuterschuter
Halo Guy: Oh yeah well *stubbornness*.


Yeah, I read that. So tell me: what can Wars do to the Precursors?
QFT, the precursors are gods. they exist in many dimensions, unbreakable technology. how can chocking a guy across the room compare to that? even a single forerunner fortress vessel would probably destroy all star destroyers in the star wars universe.


this. Though the Foretress thing might be pushing it, but oh well.

See, even if the Death Star II fired at a Precursor ship at the exact moment the entire Imperial Navy fired there primary cannons at it, the Precursor ship would emerge completely unscathed.

Only the Halo Rings and Precursor weaponry can do damage to the Precursors.

  • 02.27.2011 3:18 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: ROBERTO jh


Sort of debated for a while whether I would even respond to this because I don't want to repost the same things I've posted in every thread like this ever, but I figured it seemed rude to just ignore you.

I'm just going to throw the short summary of what I always say to people who bring up the Precursors at you to try to help you understand:

1. You don't know anything about the Precursors. Within the Halo universe, almost everything about the Precursors are legends and stories rather than fact. They were beings of Forerunner mythology. You can see that in the Terminals in Halo 3. There really is nothing but fantastical fabrications about them to go by. So you have to understand why you cannot make a legitimate argument using the Precursors.

2. You said nothing can stop the Flood. They were stopped in the Halo universe, they can be even more easily stopped in the Star Wars one.

3. Even assuming Precursors had the advanced tech that is credited to them in the legends, the one thing that will make Star Wars always win over Halo no matter what, is The Force. You have every Force user that's ever been in the Star Wars universe, which would be hundreds of millions or billions.

With the Force they will know every move the Haloverse is going to make long before it's been decided to be made, they will be able to effectively counter it, the Force can aid non-Force users, and when you have every Force user ever, they can rip apart an entire Precursor fleet molecule by molecule from across the galaxy just by thinking about it. The Force is the Star Wars universe's most overpowered weapon, with infinite potential upped even more with all of it's other uses that I have no interest of listing.

This is why I hate these threads that start up the "Star Wars vs Halo," war. Because I always ending up getting into a discussion when I promise myself I won't. Gosh darn it. But anyway, that's a small summary. I know you'll still be arguing for the Halo side because I've been through enough of these threads to know how it goes. That's okay. I accept you for who you are.

And yes, I'm aware of the information in Cryptum.

[Edited on 02.28.2011 10:46 AM PST]

  • 02.27.2011 4:34 PM PDT

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  • 02.27.2011 4:39 PM PDT

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The marines and spartans would kill the jedi.

how you ask? one word. silencers.

EDIT: also just send all the halo main characters in becuase in the star wars universe main characters cant die.

[Edited on 02.27.2011 4:48 PM PST]

  • 02.27.2011 4:43 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

1.Wrong.I guess you haven't heard of Halo Cryptum right.There is more info about the precursors,their structures are literally undestructable.A living precursor even appeared in the end of the book.I'm sure roberto could give you more evidence as my copy is hidden by my parents during school period.

2.They were stopped by wiping the entire galaxy of like,in halo 3 it was just a small infestation,all flood were on the ark .

This time they will get help from the rest of the haloverse,help with spreading.

3.Those aren't legends,the structures were found on planets in the galaxy.

The rest of the force argument is just wanking,something that never happened in the star wars verse.

  • 02.28.2011 10:41 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: hotshot revan II

*Sigh*

Where once I was this guy, I refuse to be anymore. I think it's time we let this thread die. Don't worry, there will be other opportunities for you.

  • 02.28.2011 10:52 AM PDT

We all should know how a War between these two Universes would turn out. The Forerunners would be like; "What? Star Wars? Just shut the -" Devolve every Star Wars Universe species.

  • 02.28.2011 11:41 AM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: hotshot revan II

*Sigh*

Where once I was this guy, I refuse to be anymore. I think it's time we let this thread die. Don't worry, there will be other opportunities for you.


Haha. Well played sir.

  • 02.28.2011 5:21 PM PDT

...Do we have to count the Star Wars prequels? Damn you Lucas.

  • 02.28.2011 9:15 PM PDT

"You dead yet? No? You will be!"

"How you like them pears? Guess what I mean by pears."

"I'm gonna rip off his partridge and kick him in the pear tree!"

Someone should make a game about Star Wars and Halo.

That would be awesome.

  • 03.01.2011 1:07 AM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: ROBERTO jh


Sort of debated for a while whether I would even respond to this because I don't want to repost the same things I've posted in every thread like this ever, but I figured it seemed rude to just ignore you.

I'm just going to throw the short summary of what I always say to people who bring up the Precursors at you to try to help you understand:

1. You don't know anything about the Precursors. Within the Halo universe, almost everything about the Precursors are legends and stories rather than fact. They were beings of Forerunner mythology. You can see that in the Terminals in Halo 3. There really is nothing but fantastical fabrications about them to go by. So you have to understand why you cannot make a legitimate argument using the Precursors.

2. You said nothing can stop the Flood. They were stopped in the Halo universe, they can be even more easily stopped in the Star Wars one.

3. Even assuming Precursors had the advanced tech that is credited to them in the legends, the one thing that will make Star Wars always win over Halo no matter what, is The Force. You have every Force user that's ever been in the Star Wars universe, which would be hundreds of millions or billions.

With the Force they will know every move the Haloverse is going to make long before it's been decided to be made, they will be able to effectively counter it, the Force can aid non-Force users, and when you have every Force user ever, they can rip apart an entire Precursor fleet molecule by molecule from across the galaxy just by thinking about it. The Force is the Star Wars universe's most overpowered weapon, with infinite potential upped even more with all of it's other uses that I have no interest of listing.

This is why I hate these threads that start up the "Star Wars vs Halo," war. Because I always ending up getting into a discussion when I promise myself I won't. Gosh darn it. But anyway, that's a small summary. I know you'll still be arguing for the Halo side because I've been through enough of these threads to know how it goes. That's okay. I accept you for who you are.

And yes, I'm aware of the information in Cryptum.


You really didn't read Cryptum, did you:

here's what 343i has to say of them: "PRECURSORS--A civilization which preceded the Forerunners, leaving behind indestructible and inscrutable remnants of their way of life."

Every single mention of them in Cryptum points to how utterly shocked the Didact and Bornstellar are that the Halos can destroy the Precursors, because NOTHING can and has ever been able too. Born makes a point by saying many Precursor ruins have been subjugated underneath the crust of planets for millions of years by plate tectonics, churned through the molten core of several million degrees and impossible preassure, and reamerged on the other side completely unharmed. Only a Neural Weapon can harm them, because they ARE one with the universe. They can erase consciousness from history. We know this because that's what Halo is: a soul destroyer.

I said the Flood is unstoppable because we haven't stopped it yet.

"Defeat is simply an addition of time, a sentence to a fate I never deserved." We merely slowed it down. The Forerunners are highly more advanced then the Wars universe (again, read Cryptum, they destroyed an entire planet--literally destroyed it--with nothing but starfighters and terrestrial artillery).

And THEY couldn't defeat the Flood. The Gravemind exists as a singular conscious, with no real corpeareal body. The Flood is his body. Once they hit the coordinated stage, the Flood's unstoppable.

  • 03.01.2011 5:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: mav1971kit
The Star Forge would be Star Wars' victory


Don't forget about Centerpoint.

BTW, this is pointless. Star Wars would obviously win. Halo can't use the flood or the halos, because everyone would lose in that situation.

Spartans and Elites are no match for Jedi or Sith.

Unshielded UNSC Navy ships and poorly flown Covenant ships would be no match for the Imperial Navy. And with a commander like Lord Caedus or some other force user, the Imperial Navy could never lose.

Star Wars ships have nearly unlimited energy, are super fast through hyperspace, and don't need to obey the laws of physics. It wouldn't be a fair fight. Halo is much more scientifically accurate.

And don't forget about the super weapons like the galaxy gun, the death star, centerpoint, and the star forge.

And you also need to factor in the shear size of the civilizations. Star Wars obviously wins out in this category too.

[Edited on 03.01.2011 6:42 AM PST]

  • 03.01.2011 6:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: ZzbubbleszZ
The marines and spartans would kill the jedi.

how you ask? one word. silencers.

EDIT: also just send all the halo main characters in becuase in the star wars universe main characters cant die.


This is the best you can come up with? Silencers and Main characters? One of which doesn't work by going off your flawed logic, SW has more Main Characters.

But Silencers? Those tubes that just decrease the noise a gun makes by a little bit?(unless your going off hollywood physics). That's the best anti Jedi weapon you can think of? Not shot gun or bullett spams, not flamethowers or tanks, not even using those horribly designed VTOL's to rain hot lead from safety, but goddamn silencers?

  • 03.01.2011 9:03 AM PDT

"Were it so easy"

If it was covenant joining the UNSC vs. the Rebels and Empire? id say for spacebattle for small aircraft proably Halo but for heavy fighters(star destroyer,etc..) id say the Star Wars.
Ground forces Halo

  • 03.01.2011 1:23 PM PDT

"Were it so easy"

OHHH if your adding the Forerunners and the Precursors theyd be like "dude you know those dorky guys runnin around in white suits, or that guy that needs to get some inhaaler for that asthma attack" precursor
"yeah" Forerunner
"we should like totally fire the halo array and we should leave when we do it an then kill those white guys" Precursors
"lets do it " Forerunners
halo vs SW battle over in an instant

  • 03.01.2011 1:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Erebus1317

Posted by: mav1971kit
The Star Forge would be Star Wars' victory


Don't forget about Centerpoint.

BTW, this is pointless. Star Wars would obviously win. Halo can't use the flood or the halos, because everyone would lose in that situation.

Spartans and Elites are no match for Jedi or Sith.

Unshielded UNSC Navy ships and poorly flown Covenant ships would be no match for the Imperial Navy. And with a commander like Lord Caedus or some other force user, the Imperial Navy could never lose.

Star Wars ships have nearly unlimited energy, are super fast through hyperspace, and don't need to obey the laws of physics. It wouldn't be a fair fight. Halo is much more scientifically accurate.

And don't forget about the super weapons like the galaxy gun, the death star, centerpoint, and the star forge.

And you also need to factor in the shear size of the civilizations. Star Wars obviously wins out in this category too.


NOTHING Star Wars has can do harm to the Precursors. Forget the Flood or Halo Rings (which can be used against planets and individual systems as well btw) a single Precursor ship would be unstoppable to Star Wars.

  • 03.01.2011 2:00 PM PDT

As much as I'd hate to say it, in an all out brawl, superpowers, superweapons, superbeings, everything involved, Halo would win.

They've got a machine that kills all life in the galaxy. They've got people that have indestructible vehicles. A little unfair, no?

[Edited on 03.01.2011 2:20 PM PST]

  • 03.01.2011 2:19 PM PDT