- mojeda101
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This is too easy, I put down others in other threads just like this, I have moved on to here.
I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.
An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.
An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.
While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.
Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.
The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.
This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.
put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.
The Acclamator's turbolasers carry 200 gigatons each, and can fire roughly 30-60 shots a minute, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force second at peak efficiency, so it would take 2 Cairo stations to hit it simultaneously in order to penetrate, if the shots are so much as a split-second apart the Acclamator will withstand it but it's shields will feel the strain.
Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.
The MAC gun on UNSC ships is generally said to be equivalent to 1.17 teratons of tnt, or 1.17% the impact force of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. the Pillar of autumn can fire 3 slugs on one charge, the time it takes to charge is unknown but these 3 shots can down the shields of nearly any covenant ship.
It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.
ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.
Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.
If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.
Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...
So in conclusion, 1 turbo-laser pretty much has 4 times the power of a regular MAC cannon. With dozens along it's surface that are rapid fire. The shielding of an Empire ship can survive 2 SMAC's in a span of over a second and get it's shielding back up to strength. Covenant wouldn't even penetrate the shields.
Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...
Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.
Now It comes to a battle between the Super powers.
Just to add. The Flood parasitic creatures aren't unheard of to the Empire, they've faced, defeated, and have even created their own. The Empire would have an understanding of how the flood works based on their experiences with similar creatures and the Yuuzhan Vong, and would have little trouble with them as they know that to eliminate them you have to react fast.
Let me get down to a Empire, Forerunner battle.
Forerunner firepower is tricky to gauge, they were able to cut through Flood creatures without much more ease than Covenant or UNSC. Their ships firing on the planets puts their firepower per shot, per combined ship fleet at roughly, MAYBE a single turbolaser level. But the Empire's ships can fire each of their many, many guns with 1-2 seconds in between shots, rather than 5-10 for their entire ship.
Not much is known until the rest of the Forerunner Saga is told, although in Numbers, the Empire easily outnumbers the Forerunner, Covenant, Humanity, and the Precursors.
The number of Clones is very debatable.
Which during the Clone Wars alone they had approximately 10 quadrillion clones. (The ICS puts the Droid army in the quintillions and count dooku says the droids outnumber the clones by 100 to 1) the Stormtroopers outnumber the clones. The old 3,000,000 clone figure of Karen Traviss was retconned long ago, as was her entire take on Mandalorian culture, very little of her work is still canon due to her misconduct.
What they mean by "unit" is completely unknown, it could be anything from a single clone to a group of cloning facilities like Tipoca city of unknown size, from 5-500 Tipoca cities, and not just limited to Kamino itself, but off world cloning facilities as well.
All we know is the size of the droid army and the relative size of the clone army to it, which gives us tens of quadrillions.
To put that into perspective, the Clones alone outnumber the covenant's entire army by over 500,000 to 1, there are also the SD-10 War droids and the XR-85 Tank Droids, both used by the empire and both are very,very lethal.
Depending on the Era of the Empire we are using they might also use Dark Troopers, a group of Phase II Dark Troopers would ruin the Elites day pretty quick, especially if they were Mohc Pattern (the original Dark Forces type with the Assault cannons), but Veers Pattern (the Forces of Corruption ones) are pretty deadly too, what with that E-Web of theirs, but they are much slower than the Mohc Pattern.
Checkmate.
Another addition, Halo? Killed all life in the galaxy while your Forerunner hide in your shield worlds, The SD-10 War droids and the XR-85 Tank Droids would still be used, The Empire have a failsafe if they were all killed, the droids would still be in combat form and begin cloning once again for the armies, They would be back in form in alittle less than 5 years, although it is not needed as the droids would clean up the mess.
Nothing can take down a force with millions of ships. A Planetary command center that could destroy a planet, a ship that has the power to destroy the planet with one blast from it's main weapon system, and a fleet of millions that could take on ANYTHING in their path, I'd put my money on them anyday.
FYI, The Forerunners are in fact very small compared to the Empire, it's just plain common knowledge.
[Edited on 03.04.2011 9:43 PM PST]