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Subject: Have You noticed the Games made the Covenant look like Jokers?

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In the Games, Human Weapons and Vehicles are superior to the Covenant's. A well-placed Sniper round from a 99 Sniper could destroy a Ghost.

While in the Novels, the Covenant almost kicked the UNSC's ass straight to hell. Plasma Torpedoes could obliterate the POA in seconds.

  • 02.22.2011 8:41 PM PDT

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  • 02.22.2011 8:41 PM PDT

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That is the reason why gameplay is noncanon. If the covenant was as powerful as they are in the Halo universe then the games wouldn't be fun since it would constantly feel like playing on mythic, if one plasma pistol shot would kill almost anything and wraith moarters had massive explosions on mythic.

  • 02.22.2011 8:52 PM PDT

Marines are technically better than the covies when it comes to ground combat. In space the covies dominate.

  • 02.22.2011 9:01 PM PDT

UNSC usually win the ground battles, it's mostly in space where the Covies have technological superiority and kick major ass.

And frankly I think the Covenant are ridiculously overpowered in the books, the way the books portray things there should not have been any UNSC victories at all, and humanity should have gone extinct. Now gameplay is certainly not accurate either, but it's a helluva lot better. I take an almost neutral point of view, I view neither as accurate, so I take a middle ground in regards to the power of Covie military tech.

  • 02.22.2011 9:46 PM PDT

Actually no
The Marines got their -blam!- slapped but they could somewhat hold their own.
Say two scorpions for a wraith.
Four Marines for an Elite.
Two Hornets vs a Banshee
Two warthogs for a Ghost.
Plasma really messes up your vehicle so a Ghost would tear a Hog to shreds in seconds.
But two Hogs shooting thousands of rounds of Anti-Material Rounds can tear up a ghost
See where i'm going with this?

  • 02.23.2011 3:10 AM PDT

as far as i was aware, the unsc were better at ground attac, but the covenantt were better in space.

  • 02.23.2011 3:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: OrderedComa
UNSC usually win the ground battles, it's mostly in space where the Covies have technological superiority and kick major ass.

And frankly I think the Covenant are ridiculously overpowered in the books, the way the books portray things there should not have been any UNSC victories at all, and humanity should have gone extinct. Now gameplay is certainly not accurate either, but it's a helluva lot better. I take an almost neutral point of view, I view neither as accurate, so I take a middle ground in regards to the power of Covie military tech.


Why are they overpowered?

  • 02.23.2011 5:03 AM PDT

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Because they have better tech.

  • 02.23.2011 7:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
Posted by: OrderedComa
UNSC usually win the ground battles, it's mostly in space where the Covies have technological superiority and kick major ass.

And frankly I think the Covenant are ridiculously overpowered in the books, the way the books portray things there should not have been any UNSC victories at all, and humanity should have gone extinct. Now gameplay is certainly not accurate either, but it's a helluva lot better. I take an almost neutral point of view, I view neither as accurate, so I take a middle ground in regards to the power of Covie military tech.

Why are they overpowered?

I think people just over estimate their tactical and strategic prowess and underestimate the UNSC. The Covenant (Or at least the Shipmaster in the Return) described Humanity as the greatest threat the Covenant had ever faced. (Apart from the Flood obviously.)

Make a hypothesis to fit the facts, do not warp the facts to fit a pre-existing hypothesis.

  • 02.23.2011 11:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: hotshot revan II
Posted by: OrderedComa
UNSC usually win the ground battles, it's mostly in space where the Covies have technological superiority and kick major ass.

And frankly I think the Covenant are ridiculously overpowered in the books, the way the books portray things there should not have been any UNSC victories at all, and humanity should have gone extinct. Now gameplay is certainly not accurate either, but it's a helluva lot better. I take an almost neutral point of view, I view neither as accurate, so I take a middle ground in regards to the power of Covie military tech.

Why are they overpowered?

I think people just over estimate their tactical and strategic prowess and underestimate the UNSC. The Covenant (Or at least the Shipmaster in the Return) described Humanity as the greatest threat the Covenant had ever faced. (Apart from the Flood obviously.)



The thing about those jerks in the Covenant is that they weren't innovators. All they could do is imitate technology and use what they had found. They didn't have the abstract thinking that the humans had, and that's what made the humans dangerous. In space the Covies would kick their dicks left and right in a straight out battle - but due to some crazy human stuff, we'd win a few. Humans could hold their own on the ground, pretty well. Especially with Spartans.

  • 02.23.2011 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: anton1792
I think people just over estimate their tactical and strategic prowess and underestimate the UNSC. The Covenant (Or at least the Shipmaster in the Return) described Humanity as the greatest threat the Covenant had ever faced. (Apart from the Flood obviously.)

Make a hypothesis to fit the facts, do not warp the facts to fit a pre-existing hypothesis.


Considering the Fact that most of the 'enemies' the Covenant faced were the future Covenant member races. At that point of time, most of those races were primitive and were restricted to one planet - thus the early Covenant had the advantage.

When the Covenant engaged Humanity, Humans were not to far behind the Covenant on the Technology Scale. And also Humans were far-spread across the Orion Arm. Each Human was trained equally, unlike the Covenant - imagine a Grunt with the Skill of a Elite.

It is because of this, the Humans were the Greatest Threat to the Covenant - despite having poorer tech.

  • 02.23.2011 12:12 PM PDT

I think you just got to take your own views on what you think is canon or not because the novels and the games clash sometimes. For instance I always say Elites heights are 8'6" and they weigh more than said in beastrium as they were downsized for multiplayer and the weight thing is just common sense. Another thing is the ONE mention of Brutes moving faster than Elites in frist strike, I don't entertain that because it's again just down to common sense.

  • 02.23.2011 12:33 PM PDT

Covenant has better technology than humans, obviously. But, I think that The reason we won is because of our ingenuity. We adapt much more than the Covenant. So, that would definitly help us win.

  • 02.23.2011 2:06 PM PDT


Posted by: HD HD1
Covenant has better technology than humans, obviously. But, I think that The reason we won is because of our ingenuity. We adapt much more than the Covenant. So, that would definitly help us win.
We won because the Elites split off. If it wasn't for the Great Schism, we would be dead.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 2:18 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2011 2:10 PM PDT