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Subject: Master Cheif is a Forerunner?

I was playing Halo 3 a couple weeks ago and i was finishing up campaign. But when Guilty Spark was all like "You are Forerunner!" I was like, Wha?! Sorry if I'm not making sense
I'm bad at talking. :P But anyways what did he mean is the Cheif Forerunner or what?

  • 02.23.2011 1:03 PM PDT

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Not, but humanity is extremely similar to the forerunners.

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We still don't know for sure why 343GS said that. It might be revealed in the next couple Forerunner Saga books.

But most would speculate that he only said that because he was crazy(rampant).

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Posted by: Crucio
But most would speculate that he only said that because he was crazy(rampant).

I'm a fan of the 343 was rampant explanation, since it is backed up by his behavior throughout the trilogy.

Master Chief is a human. That much has been established. Cryptum stated that humans are not forerunners. Therefore Master Chief is not a forerunner.

  • 02.23.2011 1:10 PM PDT

Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.

  • 02.23.2011 1:17 PM PDT
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Or maybe humans were originally Forerunner in teh Bungie games, but then when 343 took over they realised they could milk the franchise more if they were teh separate species and introduced precursors.

  • 02.23.2011 1:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Crucio
We still don't know for sure why 343GS said that. It might be revealed in the next couple Forerunner Saga books.

But most would speculate that he only said that because he was crazy(rampant).


The Monitor called Chief that because the Forerunners chose the humans to be their inheritors and use their technology. 343GS was programmed to treat the humans like Forerunners since they are very closely related.

^in this forum, 343=Guilty Spark from Halo CE...not the company.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 1:22 PM PST]

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There is a huge possibility that the Chief has a Geas passed down by the librarian.

Remember in the books especially, John, Recognizes the forerunner symbols and instinctively knows what to do. Actually the best example of this is the Hard Light bridge in Halo CE, he somehow knew how to activate it.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 1:24 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2011 1:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Crucio
There is a huge possibility that the Chief has a Geas passed down by the librarian.

Remember in the books especially, John, Recognizes the forerunner symbols and instinctively knows what to do. Actually the best example of this is the Hard Light bridge in Halo CE, he somehow knew how to activate it.


Red team in FS knew somehow to use the covanent vehicles, not just MC

  • 02.23.2011 1:26 PM PDT

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I think when he says "you" he's referring to all the humans. Basically he's saying humans are descendants of the Forerunner.

  • 02.23.2011 1:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Crucio
There is a huge possibility that the Chief has a Geas passed down by the librarian.

Remember in the books especially, John, Recognizes the forerunner symbols and instinctively knows what to do. Actually the best example of this is the Hard Light bridge in Halo CE, he somehow knew how to activate it.


Red team in FS knew somehow to use the covanent vehicles, not just MC


Data from Covenant vehicles was compiled during the war, every Spartan was updated with said information, this has seldom to do with Forerunner artifacts, even though Covenant technology is rooted with it.
Though I'd have to re-read that part where they get acquainted with the Covenant vehicles, perhaps there is evidence of all humans having a Geas that helps them deal with Forerunner technology, this would have been a surefire plan for the Librarian to use, since Humans are the chosen Reclaimers.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 1:37 PM PST]

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.


But that cross-bred human/Forerunner would be sterile.

  • 02.23.2011 1:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.


But that cross-bred human/Forerunner would be sterile.

Really? Where do you find evidence to support this?
In fact it is said that Humans and Forerunners were both created by the Precursors, so why couldn't they cross breed without complications?

Though I think the original idea is very unlikely.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 2:01 PM PST]

  • 02.23.2011 1:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.


But that cross-bred human/Forerunner would be sterile.

Really? Where do you find evidence to support this?


Biology. Most hybrids are sterile. Odds are this would be as well.

  • 02.23.2011 2:06 PM PDT

The way I looked at it was that Humanity had the mantle passed on to them. Because of how similar we were to them, they entrusted us, and us alone with their technology. That's why only humans can open the Forerunner relics. It's "an ancient blood-right" as Dr. Halsey put it.

I don't think Spark meant it literally, but rather that we, by our inheritance of the mantle were decendents of the Forerunners.

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Posted by: Crucio
There is a huge possibility that the Chief has a Geas passed down by the librarian.

Remember in the books especially, John, Recognizes the forerunner symbols and instinctively knows what to do. Actually the best example of this is the Hard Light bridge in Halo CE, he somehow knew how to activate it.

I agree with this.

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.


But that cross-bred human/Forerunner would be sterile.

Really? Where do you find evidence to support this?


Biology. Most hybrids are sterile. Odds are this would be as well.


Modern biology, cannot and does not apply in this event. Today's Hybrid, could only be made with lower intelligence animals such as primates.
But in a universe where there are other similar intelligent species I think that a hybrid is very possible.

  • 02.23.2011 2:12 PM PDT

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Modern biology, cannot and does not apply in this event. Today's Hybrid, could only be made with lower intelligence animals such as primates.
But in a universe where there are other similar intelligent species I think that a hybrid is very possible.

Hybrid seems reasonable. I have a feeling the Master Chief is one of those Hybrid. He just seems so...Forerunner. In certain ways, that is. Maybe it's just his armor that makes it seem like that, though.

[Edited on 02.23.2011 2:20 PM PST]

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@SEAL Sniper 9: Hmm, I do not support this, Hybrid Theory, I'm just speculating with the possibility of creating one.

  • 02.23.2011 2:32 PM PDT

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Do you know why humans are the only species able to activate their installations? Because humans are a more primitive descendant of the Forerunners. Scary I know but it makes sense.

  • 02.23.2011 2:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Crucio
@SEAL Sniper 9: Hmm, I do not support this, Hybrid Theory, I'm just speculating with the possibility of creating one.

I understand. I was just saying that it seems reasonable. Most likely it's not the case, but we can always theorize.

  • 02.23.2011 2:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Crucio
Modern biology, cannot and does not apply in this event. Today's Hybrid, could only be made with lower intelligence animals such as primates.
But in a universe where there are other similar intelligent species I think that a hybrid is very possible.


Modern biology? Does not apply? In this? Event?

I don't even know what you're trying to say with "modern biology," but two cross-bred creatures will usually produce sterile hybrid offspring. The offspring will be sterile because meiosis will be all sorts of messed up because of improper chromosome pairing.

It has nothing to do with the level of intelligence of a species, by the way.

  • 02.23.2011 2:37 PM PDT
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I know intelligence doesn't make a difference. But with examples of cross-bred species today, how can we say that species of the same or higher evolutionary level can not cross breed?

  • 02.23.2011 2:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Buzz the Fuzz
Maybe the Librarian had a bit of "fun" with a human and since Humans and Forerunners have similar DNA they had a cross breed baby (like a mule) and Chief is a decendent of that human/forerunner.

I know it's a stupid idea, but there's atleast a 2% chance that it's possible.


But that cross-bred human/Forerunner would be sterile.

Really? Where do you find evidence to support this?
In fact it is said that Humans and Forerunners were both created by the Precursors, so why couldn't they cross breed without complications?

Though I think the original idea is very unlikely.

the precursors may have created both, but that does'nt mean the precursors designed them for interbreeding, but rather intellectual inheritors in descending order, and fore runners understood this.

  • 02.23.2011 2:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Crucio
I know intelligence doesn't make a difference. But with examples of cross-bred species today, how can we say that species of the same or higher evolutionary level can not cross breed?


Well, first because the humans then are supposed to be modern humans, who were then devolved right? So they were of the same evolutionary level we are as of now.

Second, the Forerunner are aliens. Plain and simple. It takes a massive amount of specificity to cross-breed things even in the same genus, from our planet. The chances of something from another planet being able to reproduce with a human, let alone have fertile offspring are infinitesimal. It's even more unlikely than a baboon and a crocodile, or a bat and a snail. Because who knows anything about the anatomy or body-chemistry of the Forerunner? They could be Chlorine based life-forms for all we know. But the odds of them being genetically compatible for reproduction are almost 0.

  • 02.23.2011 2:57 PM PDT

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