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Subject: The end of First Strike

First Strike ends pretty abruptly, not even knowing if chief and the others make it to Earth. assume they do. First my question is.. the end is very confusing.

Fred is being asked questions by a psychiatrist while earth is under attack. I thought by the time covies got to Earth chief was only spartan.

Second was is significance of the journal entries, and the story about the guy oliver who is a fetcher?

Please help, even if u only know a little

  • 02.25.2011 3:08 PM PDT
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Those extra stories can prove confusing, I recommend you read the next best book, Ghosts of Onyx, you will find that there are still a few Spartan survivors in the lore.

  • 02.25.2011 3:12 PM PDT

yeah but why isnt fred on the ground? and is it the next book after First Strike?

  • 02.25.2011 3:14 PM PDT

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You should know that the ending leads directly into Halo 2. Blue Team, Johnson and Cortana plan on enacting the Cole Protocol, they jump to a random location then go to Earth to warn them about the incoming Covenant attack.

As of the end of the Human-Covenant war, there's about 343 Spartans still alive.

Fred's evaluation by Clayton was probably an ONI interrogation, albeit one without what one would relate to an interrogation.

Tug o' War is just a short story; I dare say it was included to help us better understand how slipspace works.

[Edited on 02.25.2011 3:18 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 3:18 PM PDT

if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?

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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.

  • 02.25.2011 3:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?

Alpha and Beta Company Spartan IIIs were destroyed, however Gamma Company (~300) were only just deployed in October 2552. Their were abouts is unknown. Presumably they were sent to Earth after reach fell to strengthen defences.


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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.

Actually he is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members here with regards to Halo lore. He is correct.

[Edited on 02.25.2011 3:39 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 3:35 PM PDT

Posted by: SPARTAN MURRAY 1

Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.


You sir are an idiot, he is right, get YOUR facts straight.

About 6 spartans on Onyx along with another 300 with Gamma Company and several other survivors from the other two companies.

  • 02.25.2011 3:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: SPARTAN MURRAY 1
Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.


No, it's you who misinterpreted. -_-

Gamma Company - 330
Blue Team - 3
Black Team - 4
Red Team - 3
Grey Team - 3
- Tom & Lucy

345 Spartans, my mistake.


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Actually he is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members here with regards to Halo lore. He is correct.


Thanks. :D

[Edited on 02.25.2011 5:01 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 5:00 PM PDT

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: SPARTAN MURRAY 1
Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.


No, it's you who misinterpreted. -_-

Gamma Company - 330
Blue Team - 3
Black Team - 4
Red Team - 3
Grey Team - 3
- Tom & Lucy

345 Spartans, my mistake.


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Actually he is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members here with regards to Halo lore. He is correct.


Thanks. :D


I'm questioning your canon, isn't Gamma Company 330 spartans?

Seven Spartans died on Onyx(Not including Kurt), Bungie reference, lol.

[Edited on 02.25.2011 5:12 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 5:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: SPARTAN MURRAY 1
Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.


No, it's you who misinterpreted. -_-

Gamma Company - 330
Blue Team - 3
Black Team - 4
Red Team - 3
Grey Team - 3
- Tom & Lucy

345 Spartans, my mistake.


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Actually he is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members here with regards to Halo lore. He is correct.


Thanks. :D


I'm questioning your canon, isn't Gamma Company 330 spartans?
Correct. I qoute:




Lieutenant Commander Kurt Ambrose. Time: Approximately 0420 Hours, February 19, 2551. Location: Aboard UNSC Hopeful
Kurt, Tom, and Lucy stopped at a staff conference room, now an improvised ONI command-and-control center. Medical technicians in blue lab coats watched 330 monitors and biosign sets.


[Edited on 02.25.2011 5:18 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 5:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: SPARTAN MURRAY 1
Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
if theres 343 spartans left where are they? they cant be III's cus they all died in a large scale battle on a covenant refinery, if i recall correctly. I think 2 survived. so what Spartans are still alive other than chief's team?


The guy has no idea what he is talking about when he says 343 spartans left...ignore him.


No, it's you who misinterpreted. -_-

Gamma Company - 330
Blue Team - 3
Black Team - 4
Red Team - 3
Grey Team - 3
- Tom & Lucy

345 Spartans, my mistake.


Posted by: switch 104 sv
Actually he is one of the most knowledgeable and respected members here with regards to Halo lore. He is correct.


Thanks. :D


I'm questioning your canon, isn't Gamma Company 330 spartans?

Seven Spartans died on Onyx(Not including Kurt), Bungie reference, lol.


I said there were 330 Spartans in Gamma. o_0

True enough - Dante, Holly and Will were killed whilst attempting to reach the Core Room Antechamber. Since the former two were from Gamma Company we have to bring the number back down to 343 Spartans left.

  • 02.25.2011 5:19 PM PDT

okay so who is left that we know the names of?
Gamma SIIIs-330
Fred, Linda, Chief, Kelly, annnd i forget the rest

  • 02.25.2011 5:55 PM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
343

*Epic Grin*

  • 02.25.2011 5:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
okay so who is left that we know the names of?
Gamma SIIIs-330
Fred, Linda, Chief, Kelly, annnd i forget the rest


- Gamma Company (including Ash, Olivia, Mark and Team Katana).
- Blue Team (Fred, Kelly, Linda - the above S-IIIs were inducted into Blue Team at the end of GoO).
- Grey Team (Jai, Adriana and Mike).
- Red Team (Alice, Douglas and Jerome)
- Black Team (Black-1, Black-2, Black-3 and Black-4).
- Team Foxtrot (Tom and Lucy).

And, of course, Master Chief.

[Edited on 02.25.2011 6:20 PM PST]

  • 02.25.2011 6:19 PM PDT

Alice Douglas and jerome= Halo wars right? i thought that they had been KIA, or MIA as ONI says

  • 02.25.2011 6:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
Alice Douglas and jerome= Halo wars right? i thought that they had been KIA, or MIA as ONI says


They went into cryo as the Spirit of Fire was adrift in unknown space, I doubt they made it back to any friendly territory but the 3 Spartans would still be very much alive.

  • 02.25.2011 6:27 PM PDT

okay soo do the main characters that we see in games, and the books ive read so far not know of the existence of these SPARTANS in Gamma and so forth, other than the SIIs we follow? Becaus ei so far have read FoR, FS and am reading GoO. so far no mentio of gamma or black team

  • 02.25.2011 6:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: HLG ROGUE16
okay soo do the main characters that we see in games, and the books ive read so far not know of the existence of these SPARTANS in Gamma and so forth, other than the SIIs we follow? Becaus ei so far have read FoR, FS and am reading GoO. so far no mentio of gamma or black team


Spartan-IIIs were top secret, only a select few people in ONI knew that they existed.

Black Team was just another S-II team, we've not explored a great deal of their history.

  • 02.26.2011 3:29 AM PDT