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Subject: Is Cortana Rampant or Metastable?

I am puzzled a bit by this because, up to this point, it seems ambiguous in the Halo story line. Signs, to me at least, lead toward Rampancy, but she's such a big part of the Halo franchise, I can't seem to put my finger on one of the other.

I pray that she could surpass Rampancy and become Metastable through it, but I truly do not know. I hope there is someone who can soothe my mind, or enlighten me to Cortana's state of being.

  • 02.26.2011 12:00 AM PDT

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I would say she's metastable, but the damage has been done.

  • 02.26.2011 12:42 AM PDT

She has, as far as Halo 3, just endured month(s) of interregation, torture and e--blam!- at the hands of Gravemind, and is now left alone to wait for Chief to awaken.

I'd say she is metastable, but that sort of trauma would have a negative effect on anyone. She is still a sentient being after all.
I think after they get back to earth and she's been debriefed and had time with Chief that doesn't involved near-death experiences, we'll see she is metastable more clearly.

How about that for a storyline? UNSC HQ try to shut her down, thinking she's rampant and chief goes rogue to protect her?

We get human-human fighting, love story and a new plot that doesn't involve mindles shooting of aliens. Everyone is happy. :P

  • 02.26.2011 1:03 AM PDT

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  • 02.26.2011 1:44 AM PDT

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She has, as far as Halo 3, just endured month(s) of interregation, torture and e--blam!- at the hands of Gravemind, and is now left alone to wait for Chief to awaken.

I'd say she is metastable, but that sort of trauma would have a negative effect on anyone. She is still a sentient being after all.
I think after they get back to earth and she's been debriefed and had time with Chief that doesn't involved near-death experiences, we'll see she is metastable more clearly.

How about that for a storyline? UNSC HQ try to shut her down, thinking she's rampant and chief goes rogue to protect her?

We get human-human fighting, love story and a new plot that doesn't involve mindles shooting of aliens. Everyone is happy. :P


It took Mendicant Bias (a much more advanced Forerunner AI) 100,000 years to become metastable and beat rampancy after going through the same thing as Cortana.

Origins shows that she has succumbed to Rampancy, Frankie further confirmed it in the Halo Legends DevCom.

  • 02.26.2011 4:29 AM PDT


Posted by: ajw34307
It took Mendicant Bias (a much more advanced Forerunner AI) 100,000 years to become metastable and beat rampancy after going through the same thing as Cortana.

Origins shows that she has succumbed to Rampancy, Frankie further confirmed it in the Halo Legends DevCom.


Origins showed no such thing. She recited the history of the galaxy and flickered some odd colours. The colours being nothing new in Halo and meh, she's keeping herself busy to stop rampancy.

That's what I'd do anyway.

  • 02.26.2011 4:34 AM PDT

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I believe she's gone rampant and if she hasn't she eventually will be (assuming she hasn't already) because Smart AI's usually live 7 years before going rampant if i recall.

As for the colors, the red to me indicated something is very wrong with Cortana. Either she is rampant or just started developing signs of rampancy. Either way, when Chief wakes up, the Cortana he knew may be gone forever. It would certainly be ironic seeing how Cortana was with Chief even before Halo CE.

  • 02.26.2011 4:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: RotaryCookie
Posted by: ajw34307
It took Mendicant Bias (a much more advanced Forerunner AI) 100,000 years to become metastable and beat rampancy after going through the same thing as Cortana.

Origins shows that she has succumbed to Rampancy, Frankie further confirmed it in the Halo Legends DevCom.


Origins showed no such thing. She recited the history of the galaxy and flickered some odd colours. The colours being nothing new in Halo and meh, she's keeping herself busy to stop rampancy.

That's what I'd do anyway.


Yes it did. She hasn't turned red before, we see her iris change to the Iris Glyph and they glow red too. All evidence points to her becoming rampant, this is the first time she's had to digest all the information she's been exposed to and it's slowly eating away at her.

In Origins, she showed melancholia, the first of the four stages in Rampancy.

  • 02.26.2011 4:47 AM PDT
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Poor Cortana,i wonder what will happen with her in Halo 4.She will probably be death when the Chief wakes up :(

  • 02.26.2011 5:30 AM PDT

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I would say she's metastable, but the damage has been done.

  • 02.26.2011 6:22 AM PDT

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When she went into the Alpha Halo she changed colours...didn't she?

  • 02.26.2011 6:45 AM PDT

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Posted by: DarkScienceLord
When she went into the Alpha Halo she changed colours...didn't she?


She changed between green, purple and blue - a Marathon reference to Leela, Tycho and Durandal.

  • 02.26.2011 6:50 AM PDT

I think she already went through Rampancy, I mean you want evidence, just play Halo 3, if that's not Rampant I don't know what is. And then when Chief gets her back she comes out of it.
I think she's on the verge of Meta-Stability, not quite Rampant, but not quite stable either, she's working her way to Meta-Stability and still recovering from the torture of the Gravemind.

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We don't know exactly when Mendicant crossed into Meta-Stability, all that time in the Dreadnought he was silent, we only know when he openly stated that he had repented, he could have crossed into Meta-Stability ages ago.

  • 02.26.2011 11:01 AM PDT

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I believe that she surpassed rampancy at the end of Halo 3 and became metastable.

Historically, it would make sense, considering how Durandal showed signs of metastability at the end of Marathon Infinity.

  • 02.26.2011 11:04 AM PDT


Posted by: cortana 5
I believe that she surpassed rampancy at the end of Halo 3 and became metastable.

Historically, it would make sense, considering how Durandal showed signs of metastability at the end of Marathon Infinity.


I think she's passed beyond rampancy as well, or is at least in the latter stages of it and on the fringes of metastability or in the early stages of metastability at least. Cortana is by no means an ordinary AI, I don't think she'll be gotten rid of that easily, the fandom will rebel xD

[Edited on 02.27.2011 11:06 AM PST]

  • 02.27.2011 11:05 AM PDT

Let's be honest, it could be a lot worse.

I don't think she counts as rampant because she was programed to be able to think indipendently, however as far as Halo fiction is conserned I think she counts as rampant.

  • 02.27.2011 11:08 AM PDT

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Cortana is rampant, just like Mendicant Bias. The idea is that an AI cannot become truly aware of itself without going insane and corrupting its data, thus destroying itself. However, this is proven false by such AI as Mendicant Bias who betrayed his creators by becoming "rampant". Later on, though, Mendicant Bias realizes his folly and in turn aids the Master Chief in helping to stop the Covenant and destroy the Flood in reparation for his sins against the Forerunners.

Therefore Cortana is rampant BUT stable, as she chose to do good and accept her realization of reality. Of course this is all thanks to the two most important characters and the saviors of humanity in the Human-Covenant war; Dr. Catherine Halsey and the Master Chief.

I hope this adequately answers your question.

-n

  • 02.27.2011 11:22 AM PDT