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Subject: Musings about Mgalekgolo

I've been thinking lately about the Hunters.

In order for their "body" to function correctly, they would have to form a single mind. This would allow their movement to become synced. This would also mean that they become a single entity, though they are comprised of multiple individual worms.

With that thought, it also explains why just having a few worms die means that the collective whole dies.

This also came up with another thought: since it requires multiple of the individual Lekgolo worms die in a rather short space of time, that would allow normal deathrates to occur without the collective whole dieing. This, in turn, implies that Mgalekgolo cannot die from old age.

What do you guys think?
And, no, my avatar is coincidental to this thread, I'm not a huge Hunter fan.

  • 02.26.2011 10:11 AM PDT

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Huh.

Well, they could die of old age if their food supply ran out. (Forerunner technology)

  • 02.26.2011 10:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: a casual banana
Huh.

Well, they could die of old age if their food supply ran out. (Forerunner technology)
that's dying of starvation.

that's an interesting point though op. i would imagine some of the hunters that acted as guards for the prophets quarters in high charity were probably around since they joined the covenant.

  • 02.26.2011 10:45 AM PDT

It's said the Forerunner tech wasn't their food source. When the hunters were found some groups act only Forerunner tech, others ate some and the surrounding rocks/areas. Some completely avoided the tech.

  • 02.26.2011 10:51 AM PDT


Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine some of the hunters that acted as guards for the prophets quarters in high charity were probably around since they joined the covenant.
Now, that is a thought.

They would be pretty battle hardened, making them ideal for protection. I mean, they would be even more skilled than even the most veteran Sangheili.

  • 02.26.2011 10:53 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
It's said the Forerunner tech wasn't their food source. When the hunters were found some groups act only Forerunner tech, others ate some and the surrounding rocks/areas. Some completely avoided the tech.
That would mean that they are one of the most cheapest species to feed.

  • 02.26.2011 10:55 AM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine some of the hunters that acted as guards for the prophets quarters in high charity were probably around since they joined the covenant.
Now, that is a thought.

They would be pretty battle hardened, making them ideal for protection. I mean, they would be even more skilled than even the most veteran Sangheili.



Time doesn't always = skill. More experienced for sure though.

  • 02.26.2011 11:00 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine some of the hunters that acted as guards for the prophets quarters in high charity were probably around since they joined the covenant.
Now, that is a thought.

They would be pretty battle hardened, making them ideal for protection. I mean, they would be even more skilled than even the most veteran Sangheili.



Time doesn't always = skill. More experienced for sure though.
True, but it does allow them more time to train, though.

  • 02.26.2011 11:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine some of the hunters that acted as guards for the prophets quarters in high charity were probably around since they joined the covenant.
Now, that is a thought.

They would be pretty battle hardened, making them ideal for protection. I mean, they would be even more skilled than even the most veteran Sangheili.



Time doesn't always = skill. More experienced for sure though.
True, but it does allow them more time to train, though.
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.

  • 02.26.2011 11:02 AM PDT


Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.
The Flood Spores would do a number on them, though.

I would say that they would have had the same deathrate as the other Covenant species when it came to the infection of High Charity.

[Edited on 02.26.2011 11:05 AM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 11:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.
The Flood Spores would do a number on them, though.
thats true...

  • 02.26.2011 11:05 AM PDT


Posted by: hal0 slay3r661

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.
The Flood Spores would do a number on them, though.
thats true...


If the spores are simply a slower version of infection, then I don't see how they would harm the hunters...

  • 02.26.2011 11:45 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.
The Flood Spores would do a number on them, though.
thats true...


If the spores are simply a slower version of infection, then I don't see how they would harm the hunters...
Screws with the lungs if you breathe in too much. You would die from suffocation long before your body gets completely converted.

  • 02.26.2011 1:00 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: hal0 slay3r661
i would imagine groups of hunters like these were probably the last surviving covenant on high charity.
The Flood Spores would do a number on them, though.
thats true...


If the spores are simply a slower version of infection, then I don't see how they would harm the hunters...
Screws with the lungs if you breathe in too much. You would die from suffocation long before your body gets completely converted.


Hmm, true I guess. Though based off Halo Wars I would say the more you breath in the quicker you turn.

Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?

  • 02.26.2011 1:08 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?
Probably with Lungs (Don't mean to be sarcastic). Seems that they can survive with very little amount of air, seeing how close they are to eachother in both Hunter and Scarab form.

Didn't some of them eat forerunner relics that were in low orbit around Te?

  • 02.26.2011 1:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma3150
I've been thinking lately about the Hunters.

In order for their "body" to function correctly, they would have to form a single mind. This would allow their movement to become synced. This would also mean that they become a single entity, though they are comprised of multiple individual worms.

That would explain why lekgolo lived in utopian socialism before their contact with the Covenant (according to the beastarium).

  • 02.26.2011 1:13 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?
Probably with Lungs (Don't mean to be sarcastic). Seems that they can survive with very little amount of air, seeing how close they are to eachother in both Hunter and Scarab form.

Didn't some of them eat forerunner relics that were in low orbit around Te?


Yeah, I think that was when they were described as having varying feeding styles. Mainly the three ones I said earlier.

  • 02.26.2011 1:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?
Probably with Lungs (Don't mean to be sarcastic). Seems that they can survive with very little amount of air, seeing how close they are to eachother in both Hunter and Scarab form.

Didn't some of them eat forerunner relics that were in low orbit around Te?

Many worms on Earth absorb oxygen through their skin, directly into their bloodstream.
(source)
Perhaps lekgolo worms do something similar.
And in mgalekgolo, they are probably able to pass on oxygen to the worms on the inside layers. As a scifi and biology nerd that's my speculation.

  • 02.26.2011 1:18 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?
Probably with Lungs (Don't mean to be sarcastic). Seems that they can survive with very little amount of air, seeing how close they are to eachother in both Hunter and Scarab form.

Didn't some of them eat forerunner relics that were in low orbit around Te?


Yeah, I think that was when they were described as having varying feeding styles. Mainly the three ones I said earlier.
I meant that the relics were in low orbit, which would still be in atmosphere, but it would be extremely thin.

  • 02.26.2011 1:19 PM PDT


Posted by: Lyme1331

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Brings up another thing, how do the worms breath?
Probably with Lungs (Don't mean to be sarcastic). Seems that they can survive with very little amount of air, seeing how close they are to eachother in both Hunter and Scarab form.

Didn't some of them eat forerunner relics that were in low orbit around Te?

Many worms on Earth absorb oxygen through their skin, directly into their bloodstream.
(source)
Perhaps lekgolo worms do something similar.
And in mgalekgolo, they are probably able to pass on oxygen to the worms on the inside layers. As a scifi and biology nerd that's my speculation.
Hm. That would work.

  • 02.26.2011 1:20 PM PDT

Well humans make new cells that replace the old ones, yet we still age.

  • 02.26.2011 1:29 PM PDT


Posted by: the n00b pwner
Well humans make new cells that replace the old ones, yet we still age.
It is not the same thing. What I'm refering to is that the Collective Mind can never die from old age.

[Edited on 02.26.2011 1:50 PM PST]

  • 02.26.2011 1:36 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: the n00b pwner
Well humans make new cells that replace the old ones, yet we still age.
It is not the same thing. What I'm refering to is that the Collective Mind can never die from old age.


Yeah, and when human cells get replaced, they are slightly less perfect than the ones before them. Copy of a copy idea. The dead worms would probably be young and healthy. I wonder if enough replacements would alter the personality (if any) of the Hunters? You know, if a new worm brings slightly different aspects to the Collective Mind of the worms? And if I'm giving the Hunters too much credit, someone please call me out on it.

  • 02.26.2011 4:21 PM PDT


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Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: the n00b pwner
Well humans make new cells that replace the old ones, yet we still age.
It is not the same thing. What I'm refering to is that the Collective Mind can never die from old age.


Yeah, and when human cells get replaced, they are slightly less perfect than the ones before them. Copy of a copy idea. The dead worms would probably be young and healthy. I wonder if enough replacements would alter the personality (if any) of the Hunters? You know, if a new worm brings slightly different aspects to the Collective Mind of the worms? And if I'm giving the Hunters too much credit, someone please call me out on it.


If what I got from them was right, each worm is unintelligent. The personality is formed when they join into a hive. So new worms joining in might not change the personality that much.

  • 02.26.2011 4:56 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.

I don't think a mgalekgolo can die by gunshot. I think eventually the lekgolo breed enough that it just gets back up, or they get...carried away and make a nest.

The only way they all die, me thinks, is impact from large(Or very fast) object, starvation, and being glassed or bombed. They don't die of old age, as more lekgolo just keep coming. And the dead bodies could even harden, pushed out to surface, and block bullets.

OH: Who thinks it would be cool to explore a hunters nest, where sometimes new forms attack you, but they don't have armor, they act like flood in CE(But don't infect stuff or carry weapons) where they "die" but get back up. I think that's how "DATA HIVE" shoulda been in ODST, easily being the hardest level.

Or in Reach, Sword Base the second time was infested, and the first time you saw it beginning.

Agree?

  • 02.26.2011 5:01 PM PDT

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