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Posted By: anton1792
They do. They did not waste any time with Reach or Jericho. After the UNSC fleets and armies were defeated the Covenant got straight to glassing population centres. Kholo had nothing left, not even Weather Satellites were left. The Covenant could have proceeded like normal, but did not. For some reason, they decided to waste time and resources by sending thousands of soldiers into towns and cities that were going to be glassed anyway.
Refer to above point. You can spend a few hours glassing or days/weeks hunting down every last person and the result is the same anyway. They went down for, I could only guess, sport.
I got the distinct impression from the motion comic that they went down to Kholo's surface for the same reason they always did, to neutralize the UNSC military presence, and once that was done glassing it. And the Shipmaster wasn't truly in charge of the ship anyway, there was one of the Minor Prophets on board if you'll remember, and we don't really know what sorts of absurd things they demand of their Shipmaster's, it is entirely possible he is responsible for it.
Why is there no glory in it? I think you are trying to escape the fact that it is an unfairness and so that is the justification for there being no glory in it. Regardless if they view it as a null act, it is still violating that principle. In that case, it ceases to be honour.
Your analogy. It would be entirely dependant on the morals of the wrestler. However, considering that the Sangheili are not "doing it for fun", I cannot see any pertinence here.
An integral part of honour is sticking to your beliefs, it is called having integrity. Not sticking to them is dishonourable. It is a difficult thing to earn but an easy thing to lose.
I clearly stated why I believe that there would be no glory in it from a Sangheili's perspective, it would not be a challenge and there would be no gaining of battle prowess from it. All this means is that there is no honor to be gained from it, it is a neutral activity in terms of acquiring honor to the Sangheili in much the same way my wrestler analogy is.
Do I agree with the slaughter of helpless civilians? No, but do I think the Elites are not upholding their own honor code by doing so? No, I do not, their culture is rather similar in view of warfare to more ancient times in our history where the slaughter of all enemies, whether military or civilian, was common place and not viewed as barbarism like we view it today.
Not every Elite is a commander though. You seem to be implying that. They are also not infrequent either. They are one of the most populous races and dedicate nearly all of their manpower to military endeavours. The existence of the Grunts primarily as Canon fodder, to go in first when the Elites have all the manpower and commanders they need tells me that there is something iffy about them.
That is true, and I am not implying that, I am merely stating that you do not put your commanders on the front lines.
I wouldn't go so far as to claim that, as I do not have any sort of population number to go by, but from everything I've ever seen I think most of the other Covenant species outnumber them, except for the Prophets who have the lowest population of all, in every instance we've seen the other Covenant Species have generally had many more numbers than the Elites.
And Grunts serving as the main infantry strikes me as very smart and tactical brilliance, it makes sense, does it not, for the most numerous species to be made the main infantry in your army?
That is irrelevant to the Elites holding the front line with their own blood rather than using another race. They could easily go in with the Unggoy.
And they do, all the -blam!-ing time, and whenever you don't find Elites on the front lines with the other lesser ranked species, it's the Brutes in command. Have you even played the games, dumbass?
Well we can debate his tone of voice all day and it will probably not get anywhere. When he tore his way into the tent, he still had to decide whether he wanted to kill or subdue anything inside. Do you not also find it a bit suspicious how he was willing to leave that Human for dead, but when it suited him, he decided to save him? He has not got that Humans interests in mind. The torture line was made out to sound like an ultimatum. If the Human does not give him what he wants, he should expect it.
Yeah, and in case you don't remember, he had just fought off a bunch of Jackals, fortune favors the prepared, so the saying goes, and if you just fought the enemy off and are about to enter a structure it makes sense to keep on the alert and act as if the enemy could jump out of anywhere, he didn't know what was in the tent.
He didn't do anything for the human at first because he thought the human was beyond all aid, and then when he found out that Humanity knew more about Forerunner tech, or were at least making headway with it, he decided he'd do what he could to save him/her.