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Subject: Covenant Corvettes

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Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: ExcellentSix
A UNSC frigate is evenly matched for a Corvette, in a mission in halo reach, it's shown that one orbital Mac strike was enough to destroy the Corvette.


Yeah, an Orbital MAC station is 9x times stronger than a ship board MAC. There is a HUGE difference.




An orbital MAC fires the slug at 400 times the speed of the normal ship MAC and 6 times the weight.


??? Where was this info ?
If the Orbital Mac gun fired onto the corvette present at ONI Sword Base at full power, it would have been enough to literally vaporize all surrounding area with either gigaton to terraton level explosion.

From the power of that Mac round I saw, i was under the impression a frigate fired the round from orbit.
I never remembered hearing anything about any of the orbital Mac guns to be the cause of the destruction of the corvette in halo reach.
I'm guessing that your just assuming that it was a orbital mac gun, but im most likely wrong.

  • 03.06.2011 8:06 PM PDT

Posted by: ExcellentSix

Posted by: Spartan 100

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: ExcellentSix
A UNSC frigate is evenly matched for a Corvette, in a mission in halo reach, it's shown that one orbital Mac strike was enough to destroy the Corvette.


Yeah, an Orbital MAC station is 9x times stronger than a ship board MAC. There is a HUGE difference.




An orbital MAC fires the slug at 400 times the speed of the normal ship MAC and 6 times the weight.


??? Where was this info ?
If the Orbital Mac gun fired onto the corvette present at ONI Sword Base at full power, it would have been enough to literally vaporize all surrounding area with either gigaton to terraton level explosion.

From the power of that Mac round I saw, i was under the impression a frigate fired the round from orbit.
I never remembered hearing anything about any of the orbital Mac guns to be the cause of the destruction of the corvette in halo reach.
I'm guessing that your just assuming that it was a orbital mac gun, but im most likely wrong.


It was from a MAC station. Although it was toned down to not affect the surrounding area.

  • 03.06.2011 8:09 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?

  • 03.06.2011 8:10 PM PDT

Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


It doesn't need it.

  • 03.06.2011 8:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


Perhaps they ran out of Shield Generators?

  • 03.06.2011 8:11 PM PDT

What a waste....


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: I Em I Raptor

Posted by: Stealth Fox74
yes looks interesting. probably either planet glassing or deploys troops. The picture shows it can go into atmospheres. probably look it up on halopedia and find out



Well it doesn't have an energy projector so glassing is out of the question. I like the Air-Support theory.


Actually, it does have a projector, Look at that circle in the bottom. It's a projector. Just to clarify. It takes 3 Frigates to take down 1 corvette, so it really is a great ship stand alone.


Where is it stated that it takes 3 Frigates to take down 1 Corvette?


One of the books, either fall of Reach or Ghost of Onyx, I remember it mentioning it.
That was three frigates to the average cruiser.

A Corvette is destroyed by a few SAM missiles.

  • 03.06.2011 8:26 PM PDT

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Judging by the limited space in the hallways [good job Bungie], and the short passage ways from the main hangar to the Bridge; I'd guess that these Corvettes are simply large transports, capable of low-atmosphere invasion and deployment.

[proof of that would be on Nightfall, as there is a large congrgation of Corvettes in a large valley].

  • 03.06.2011 8:28 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


It doesn't need it.


Why would a Corvette not need shields?

  • 03.06.2011 9:30 PM PDT

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


It doesn't need it.


Why would a Corvette not need shields?


It's a Covenant ship, they are strong as it is.

  • 03.06.2011 9:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


It doesn't need it.


Why would a Corvette not need shields?


It's a Covenant ship, they are strong as it is.


That logic makes no sense what so ever...You might as well say that all Covenant ships don't need shields then since just about every other vessel save for the stealth corvette is far more durable and posses a stronger armament than the corvette.

  • 03.06.2011 9:34 PM PDT

Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: privet caboose
The corvette having no shielding is absolutely stupid.

Seraphs have shielding. Individual troops have shielding.

Every single large vehicle larger than a Phantom has been shown to have it's own shielding. Why would the covenant suddenly not use them on a ship of that scale?


It doesn't need it.


Why would a Corvette not need shields?


It's a Covenant ship, they are strong as it is.


That logic makes no sense what so ever...You might as well say that all Covenant ships don't need shields then since just about every other vessel save for the stealth corvette is far more durable and posses a stronger armament than the corvette.


Why not go ask Truth why they didn't have them?

  • 03.06.2011 9:38 PM PDT

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Maybe they're escort ships. Somewhat similar to a tugboat and an aircraft carrier.

  • 03.06.2011 10:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ben MCCrash
i thought it was an intresting ship since we actually got to free roam a lot of it and it wasnt boaring like that ship on halo CE it actually had controle rooms and cannon rooms and a room to land small ships


That ship wasn't boring. It was just a different type of ship. It actually did have control rooms and stuff. Mainly though, as Master Cheif you just roamed the main corridors, some hangars and a few other rooms. Also how can it be boring if you were fighting Covenant the whole time? Or did you just get lost?

  • 03.06.2011 10:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: Ben MCCrash
i thought it was an intresting ship since we actually got to free roam a lot of it and it wasnt boaring like that ship on halo CE it actually had controle rooms and cannon rooms and a room to land small ships


That ship wasn't boring. It was just a different type of ship. It actually did have control rooms and stuff. Mainly though, as Master Cheif you just roamed the main corridors, some hangars and a few other rooms. Also how can it be boring if you were fighting Covenant the whole time? Or did you just get lost?


Lol, it would be horrible to get lost in a Cruiser.

  • 03.06.2011 10:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Maybe they're escort ships. Somewhat similar to a tugboat and an aircraft carrier.


The deployment of Corvettes reminds me of how the aliens from Independence Day operated though on a different scale.

Given that the Super Carrier seems to have several slots underneath it to refuel Corvettes I would argue (based on what's currently available) that the Corvettes are exclusively deployed by Super Carriers. This is our only time seeing Corvettes, but as is noted in Reach they seem to have very limited (relatively speaking) operation time compared to other Covie ships as they need to refuel after a short amount of time into the attack on Reach. However it is quite possible that the Corvettes have been operating on Reach long before even the Visagrad incident and thus expended a good deal of their resources then. In any case though the presence of the Super carrier as the sole warship of any other class in the system (in combination with the Corvette "slots") seems to imply that the Corvettes are reliant on the carrier for support.

The way I see it, the Corvette is a means for the carrier to rapidly deploy its forces over the surface of an entire planet. Of course dropships could do the same thing, but this is the important part.The Corvette can allow said spread out forces to maintain a hold on their assigned region by providing each of those separate forces an adequate means of support to sustain itself (Close air support, heavy bombardment, intelligence, and possibly ammo fuel and other necessities for infantry). Which... in turn would lessen the chances of a unit being isolated by enemy forces on a planet wide scale when separated from the mothership.

The super carrier may be large, powerful, and house legions of troops, but it can't be everywhere on a planet to support all those troops when spread out...The corvettes would be the best method overall to support all those troops all over the planet.

  • 03.07.2011 12:07 AM PDT

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I agree. The Corvette seems like a big dropship used by Supercarriers. It's clearly not meant for any ship-to-ship combat.

  • 03.07.2011 1:02 AM PDT

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Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Maybe they're escort ships. Somewhat similar to a tugboat and an aircraft carrier.


The deployment of Corvettes reminds me of how the aliens from Independence Day operated though on a different scale.

Given that the Super Carrier seems to have several slots underneath it to refuel Corvettes I would argue (based on what's currently available) that the Corvettes are exclusively deployed by Super Carriers. This is our only time seeing Corvettes, but as is noted in Reach they seem to have very limited (relatively speaking) operation time compared to other Covie ships as they need to refuel after a short amount of time into the attack on Reach. However it is quite possible that the Corvettes have been operating on Reach long before even the Visagrad incident and thus expended a good deal of their resources then. In any case though the presence of the Super carrier as the sole warship of any other class in the system (in combination with the Corvette "slots") seems to imply that the Corvettes are reliant on the carrier for support.

The way I see it, the Corvette is a means for the carrier to rapidly deploy its forces over the surface of an entire planet. Of course dropships could do the same thing, but this is the important part.The Corvette can allow said spread out forces to maintain a hold on their assigned region by providing each of those separate forces an adequate means of support to sustain itself (Close air support, heavy bombardment, intelligence, and possibly ammo fuel and other necessities for infantry). Which... in turn would lessen the chances of a unit being isolated by enemy forces on a planet wide scale when separated from the mothership.

The super carrier may be large, powerful, and house legions of troops, but it can't be everywhere on a planet to support all those troops when spread out...The corvettes would be the best method overall to support all those troops all over the planet.

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  • 03.07.2011 4:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: I Em I Raptor

Posted by: Stealth Fox74
yes looks interesting. probably either planet glassing or deploys troops. The picture shows it can go into atmospheres. probably look it up on halopedia and find out



Well it doesn't have an energy projector so glassing is out of the question. I like the Air-Support theory.


Actually, it does have a projector, Look at that circle in the bottom. It's a projector. Just to clarify. It takes 3 Frigates to take down 1 corvette, so it really is a great ship stand alone.
you are misreading with the covenant frigate because one mac could easily destroy a corvete


[Edited on 03.07.2011 7:41 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 7:40 AM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101

It was from a MAC station. Although it was toned down to not affect the surrounding area.


Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.

Posted by: Nocbl2


A Corvette is destroyed by a few SAM missiles.


In exodus? Hardly destroyed. If you had looked it was damaged, and was pulling back toward the other three corvettes so it could get to safety and repair...

  • 03.07.2011 8:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.
They would just have to fire with limited charge or only a part of the capacitators.

  • 03.07.2011 10:30 AM PDT


Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.
They would just have to fire with limited charge or only a part of the capacitators.


But why bother doing that when you can have a ship fire normally and get the same results...

  • 03.07.2011 10:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.
They would just have to fire with limited charge or only a part of the capacitators.


But why bother doing that when you can have a ship fire normally and get the same results...


Cause humanity is lazy like that.

I do think it was from a ship, cause I don't think the Orbital MAC Stations can just like, turn around and shoot at the planet, that'd be really bad if they fell on enemy hands.

  • 03.07.2011 10:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.
They would just have to fire with limited charge or only a part of the capacitators.


But why bother doing that when you can have a ship fire normally and get the same results...


Cause humanity is lazy like that.

I do think it was from a ship, cause I don't think the Orbital MAC Stations can just like, turn around and shoot at the planet, that'd be really bad if they fell on enemy hands.


Well judging from Kat's dialogue in the Sword Base level it sounds like the orbital macs can just turn around and be used for orbital bombardment similar to what the Spirit of Fire can do as she specifically mentions how they could be used to strike the Corvette.

  • 03.07.2011 10:57 AM PDT


Posted by: StealthSlasher2

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Mutoid Log
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Or it was fired by a frigate or destroyer, which is more likely due to the fact I doubt you can 'dial down' how much damage a MAC round does.
They would just have to fire with limited charge or only a part of the capacitators.


But why bother doing that when you can have a ship fire normally and get the same results...


Cause humanity is lazy like that.

I do think it was from a ship, cause I don't think the Orbital MAC Stations can just like, turn around and shoot at the planet, that'd be really bad if they fell on enemy hands.


Well judging from Kat's dialogue in the Sword Base level it sounds like the orbital macs can just turn around and be used for orbital bombardment similar to what the Spirit of Fire can do as she specifically mentions how they could be used to strike the Corvette.


Yes, they can turn and face toward the planet, however the super mac rounds impacting the planet would cause MAJOR damage to the planet. Not something you'd use to swat a Corvette out of the sky.

  • 03.07.2011 11:02 AM PDT

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