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Subject: Is Armor Lock Cannon?

Just wondering, because honestly it annoys the hell out of me.

How can armor lock protect a spartan from an energy sword which pretty much cuts through everything at close range?

How can it protect a spartan against a Spartan Laser that can damage Guilty Spark who is a forerunner construct?

I mean could armor lock protect a spartan from a lightsaber?

Is it cannon or do we pretend the armor lock in Reach is the same one Red team used in First Strike?

  • 03.06.2011 4:15 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Armor Lock is not Canon, nor is any of the Armor Abilities, they are just in Halo: Reach for game-play reasons.

  • 03.06.2011 4:19 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Armor Lock is not Canon, nor is any of the Armor Abilities, they are just in Halo: Reach for game-play reasons.


Actually, the jet pack is canon...and so is armour lock, technically. However the gameplay version of armour lock is very different to campaign canon armour lock, which is used by Masterchief at the start of Halo 3. (Locked armour)

The canon version of the jetpack seems more powerful than the multiplayer version as well, if you have watched Deliver Hope.

  • 03.06.2011 4:23 PM PDT

the type of armor locking that is considered cannon is locking the suits (systems?) down so a spartan could withstand enormous pressure i.e. falling from orbit.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 4:26 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 4:25 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Rammal94

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Armor Lock is not Canon, nor is any of the Armor Abilities, they are just in Halo: Reach for game-play reasons.


Actually, the jet pack is canon...and so is armour lock, technically. However the gameplay version of armour lock is very different to campaign canon armour lock, which is used by Masterchief at the start of Halo 3. (Locked armour)

The canon version of the jetpack seems more powerful than the multiplayer version as well, if you have watched Deliver Hope.


Like I said, the Armor Abilities are not Canon, you can pick up a Jet pack yes, but it's not an armor ability if a marine/ODST can also use it. and like the guy above me said, Armor Lock in Reach is different from the actual Armor Lock seen in Halo 3.

  • 03.06.2011 4:29 PM PDT

Armor lock is canon but not in the fashion it's used in gameplay.

Locking ones armor refers to locking the joints of the armor and super-pressurizing the gel layer, keeping the wearers insides cushioned excessively and keeping their limbs from moving (and ideally from twisting/hyperextending the wrong way).

It's used more as a defense against blunt trauma than projectile weapons. There's no overloaded shield like there is in halo reach.

If halo reaches armor lock would be completely canon, it would only really work against melee attacks. But gameplay trumps canon.

Sprint shouldn't even be an armor ability. All spartans can sprint considerably faster than the average human.



[Edited on 03.06.2011 4:49 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 4:43 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Wazooty
Armor lock is canon but not in the fashion it's used in gameplay.

Locking ones armor refers to locking the joints of the armor and super-pressurizing the gel layer, keeping the wearers insides cushioned excessively and keeping their limbs from moving (and ideally from twisting/hyperextending the wrong way).

It's used more as a defense against blunt trauma than projectile weapons. There's no overloaded shield like there is in halo reach.

If halo reaches armor lock would be completely canon, it would only really work against melee attacks. But gameplay trumps canon.

Sprint shouldn't even be an armor ability. All spartans can sprint considerably faster than the average human.



Apparently, Sprint allows the Spartan to override the Armor's security parameters, letting you run more than the "safe" speed, that's why it has like a cooldown time, because in (real Halo life) the Spartan would suffer severe injuries or something similar.

  • 03.06.2011 4:55 PM PDT

So safe speed = the pitiful jog they go when not sprinting? That is BS.

  • 03.06.2011 4:57 PM PDT

real bs, especially since spartans sprint in the books as fast as warthogs go in the game.

  • 03.06.2011 4:58 PM PDT

Yes, and it's "Canon", not an actual Cannon.

Armor Abilities were made on Reach as experimental items to augment Spartans. When Reach fell, so did most Experimental projects.

Armor Lock was in the experimental phase, as described in the game manual.

Another way of "Armor Locking" is when the user simply locks their Armor to prevent physical damage from falls, as seen in Tip of the Spear, or Arrival on Halo 3.

Also, every game made by Bungie is considered canon, as it is Bungie's canon.

  • 03.06.2011 4:58 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
real bs, especially since spartans sprint in the books as fast as warthogs go in the game.


Sustaining that speed can be harmful, something that was proven when John tore his Achilles Heel while testing the Mark V.

  • 03.06.2011 5:02 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Wazooty
So safe speed = the pitiful jog they go when not sprinting? That is BS.


In the game is obviously not proven, I mean, who would want to get their character hurt by using an Armor Ability? But in the books etc, if they were to kept Sprinting at the speed they do with the Armor Ability, well.....things wouldn't work out that well xD

  • 03.06.2011 5:04 PM PDT

if you gotta go you gotta go.

I think a Spartan should be trusted to judge whether or not he needs to run fast.

Imagine you are almost at the space ship you need to get in to escape a planet you are about to nuke, and would make it if you could sprint, but because of some stupid lock in your armor you die.

Shoot the fake scientist who came up with that idea, please.

  • 03.06.2011 5:04 PM PDT

technically it's 343's canon now

  • 03.06.2011 5:05 PM PDT

OATMEAL? Are you crazy?!

Don't forget the way it can block airstikes/target locators

  • 03.06.2011 5:19 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

All AA are canon.

Red Team and the Chief both use AL for orbital reentry, albeit a different depiction from Noble Team's version. Noble Team were using a prototype version based off reverse-engineered tech if I remember the Reach booklet right. Same goes for drop shields. We have already seen them used by brutes and the Chief (Starry Night Trailer).

Active Camo was in prototype deployment in and around 2552 as seen in Headhunters.

Hologram is again a reverse-engineered version of Covy technology.

Sprint is a "patch" for MJOLNIR armour allowing the suit to move even faster than usual at the expense of ignoring it's safety inhibitors for a short period of time.

Jet Pack is a jet pack.

The reason Noble Team were using AAs that the IIs were not equipped with is because Reach was home to all the cool stuff and Spartan IIIs were used for field testing.

And the final and most simple point is that if they are included in the game. The games are the highest tier of canon, so yes, they are canon.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 5:55 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 5:55 PM PDT

I meant more along the lines of, is what they can do cannon, can a Spartan survive a tank blast while in armor lock, etc.

  • 03.06.2011 5:57 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
I meant more along the lines of, is what they can do cannon, can a Spartan survive a tank blast while in armor lock, etc.

Like I said, the Armour Lock AA is different to MJOLNIR's ability to lock-up. Basically, what Red Team and Chief did was use the gel layer to take as much of a physical impact as possible. AL seems to be more related to the armours ability to boost shields strength, presumably at the expense of other functions, hence why you can't move. The suit diverts all it's power to shields to overcharge them (this explains the EMP) essentially making them an overshield/personal bubble shield, for lack of a better description.

Again the reason why the IIs didn't use this when free-falling is because they were not equipped with the technology. Noble Team were obviously using equipment that had not been fully deployed.

  • 03.06.2011 6:05 PM PDT

Armor lock is "CANON" (Spell it right, I'm sick of people spelling it Cannon) Remember the beginning of Halo 3? Master Chief went into Armor Lock to survive the impact. Although it was different.

Sprint is an all around lie. Spartans can run, no matter what, Watch the cutscene of when the Ring is fired in Halo 3, he ran. Running is a natural thing that all spartans should have.

Jetpack is canon, and its everywhere.

  • 03.06.2011 6:14 PM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

I think there are two versions of armor lock, the survive a fall from -blam!- orbit kind and the one seen on Reach. Also, the Reach version of armor lock was a prototype of a made-for-combat equipment.

  • 03.06.2011 7:09 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Posted by: mojeda101
Sprint is an all around lie. Spartans can run, no matter what, Watch the cutscene of when the Ring is fired in Halo 3, he ran. Running is a natural thing that all spartans should have.

All Spartans can run at super-human speeds, however the Sprint AA adds even more speed on top of what they can naturally achieve from their armour.

  • 03.07.2011 5:07 AM PDT

It's canon, but it's just presented differently in Reach.

  • 03.07.2011 5:28 AM PDT

Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: mojeda101
Sprint is an all around lie. Spartans can run, no matter what, Watch the cutscene of when the Ring is fired in Halo 3, he ran. Running is a natural thing that all spartans should have.

All Spartans can run at super-human speeds, however the Sprint AA adds even more speed on top of what they can naturally achieve from their armour.

This also gives them the ability to run in space. So, let's pretend that in Halo 2, MC used it on the Cairo Station level because he wasn't affected by the gravity change. Also in Halo Legends, MC was sprinting in that episode, The Package.

  • 03.07.2011 5:29 AM PDT

The acceptance of defeat is an invitation for its repetition.

*Imagines a spartan in the frontlines*

"lol armer lock armer lock armer lock, u covenant baddies!11!!!"

  • 03.07.2011 6:15 AM PDT