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Subject: Spartans vs Jedi who wins the match?

A jedi's main way to defend against long range weapons in star wars is to block the lasers... But if they block a bullet with there energy sword, there get a face full of melted lead so I'm going to say a spartan wins.

  • 03.07.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: monkDAN
just fred could kill them. no way to block a spartan laser.

or just linda. kinda hard to deflect a sniper.
force would be useless at a distance in both cases.


like i said earlier, spartans would have a supreme advantage if they can attack the jedi's from long range

  • 03.07.2011 3:40 PM PDT

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Jedi have the force and lightsabers. Block the bullets and force throw their weapons outta their hands.

  • 03.07.2011 3:42 PM PDT

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Wow. Why does anyone bother posting Anything vs Halo threads? Look at the poll. The Spartans actually have more votes.

  • 03.07.2011 3:44 PM PDT

Given the circumstances of this particular fight? Spartan team wins, hands down. Now if it was individuals, eh meh, I don't know, that'd be a fight worth seeing. Jedi may be super powerful, but they ain't invincible, and if they can be killed by Clones, who really aren't all that special, I don't see why a single Spartan or Elite wouldn't stand a chance.

  • 03.07.2011 4:50 PM PDT

What is interesting to me would be the effect of force powers on spartans, especially there shields.

I assume force lightning would slowly drain their shields, but the jedi here aren't sith so they don't use force lightning.

Would a force push be taken by the shields and lower the bar, or would it push the spartan around while also lowering his shields?

What other force powers do jedi even use?

They throw objects around, use super jumps and super speed, sometimes saber throw and pull objects to them.

I wonder if a jedi tried to use drain life, if it would drain the energy from the shields and heal the jedi.

interesting, anyways.

  • 03.07.2011 6:11 PM PDT

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Jedis can reflect lasers, what about bullets and rockets?

  • 03.07.2011 7:12 PM PDT
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Rockets explode on contact, goodbye jedi. Bullets melt and send molten debris flying everywhere, everyone's hurt. Plus, lasers are easy to see, bullets aren't. BTW, lasers are one long beam, blasters use plasma.

  • 03.07.2011 7:31 PM PDT

I have a strong feeling that figure was brought about during Halo 2; when the Elites where smaller... Think of an Elite Zealot from Reach, fully armoured. How much would that weigh?

Anyway, who is to say the the figures given by "Bestiarium and Encyclopaedia" are any more valid than what anybody else says?

  • 03.07.2011 7:36 PM PDT

Caaaarrrl; you are obviously a bit noobish when it comes to Reach, as the statement " Rockets explode on contact " is not totally true. This is because if a flying rocket comes in contact with a Spartan armour lock it will be deflected also you can bat a flying rocket with a well timed gravity hammer blow.

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  • 03.07.2011 7:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Joshwa Freyja
I have a strong feeling that figure was brought about during Halo 2; when the Elites where smaller... Think of an Elite Zealot from Reach, fully armoured. How much would that weigh?

Anyway, who is to say the the figures given by "Bestiarium and Encyclopaedia" are any more valid than what anybody else says?

to add to your point, that weight could be an elite without any gear or armor, just like JOHN-117 only weighs like 250 pounds without armor, but with his MJOLNIR MK 6 armor on he ways like 1000 pounds

  • 03.07.2011 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Joshwa Freyja
I have a strong feeling that figure was brought about during Halo 2; when the Elites where smaller... Think of an Elite Zealot from Reach, fully armoured. How much would that weigh?

That figure is not for fully armoured Elites, merely biometric stats. We do not know how much the Elite combat harness weighs, so giving a precise number is bullshi­t.

Posted by: Joshwa Freyja
Anyway, who is to say the the figures given by "Bestiarium and Encyclopaedia" are any more valid than what anybody else says?

They are official canon sources and the only places where this information has ever been detailed. Other than these two things, we have nothing. What "anybody else says" is totally irrelevant.

  • 03.07.2011 7:49 PM PDT

he doesn't weigh like 1000 pounds he's only like 500.

  • 03.07.2011 7:51 PM PDT

well they have "the force" or some -blam!- -blam!- like that. so jedi are cheating bastards!!

  • 03.07.2011 7:53 PM PDT

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The jedi would use a sword commando lunge but at the last second the spartan bulltrues the jedi only to be exploded by a grenade the jedi threw right before he died, thus ending in a tie...

  • 03.12.2011 1:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Joshwa Freyja
Caaaarrrl; you are obviously a bit noobish when it comes to Reach, as the statement " Rockets explode on contact " is not totally true. This is because if a flying rocket comes in contact with a Spartan armour lock it will be deflected also you can bat a flying rocket with a well timed gravity hammer blow.

I hope you had fun, me putting you right.


I did not take into account the armor lock or the trick with the hammer, thank you for correcting me.

  • 03.12.2011 2:10 PM PDT


Posted by: jonesy90000
A jedi's main way to defend against long range weapons in star wars is to block the lasers... But if they block a bullet with there energy sword, there get a face full of melted lead so I'm going to say a spartan wins.


Only, the bullets would be completely destroyed. There would be nothing going past the lightsaber beam.

To OP, the fact you gave the jedi all force powers, makes them win.

The Spartans can't protect themselves from being thrown around by the force. They can't match the speeds a Jedi could go to in their strikes, and height advantage is nullified by force jump.

Even their weapons are gone as the jedi can simply pull the weapon from the Spartan's hands.

  • 03.12.2011 2:11 PM PDT

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who even thought of this? Completely different "universes" BTW Jedi can lift MASSIVE amounts of weight

  • 03.12.2011 2:55 PM PDT

Nothings impossible? Try slamming a revolving door.

i believe some jedis are capable of generating a force ball of sorts, kind of like a bullet. But then again if a sparatans shields can take a concussion rifle blast to the chest and still be up i dont think it would do much.

  • 03.13.2011 10:29 PM PDT


Posted by: No Guarantees
i believe some jedis are capable of generating a force ball of sorts, kind of like a bullet. But then again if a sparatans shields can take a concussion rifle blast to the chest and still be up i dont think it would do much.


But what if the Jedi lifts the Spartan in the air and throws them out of a high window? Or simply slams them into stuff?

  • 03.13.2011 10:37 PM PDT

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Depends if the Jedi can force push/block/dodge bullets.

  • 03.13.2011 10:53 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
It would make more sense if it was between an Elite and Jedi.

Elites would most likely come close but end up winning.
The Force is something that the Jedi has but it wouldn't do much good. Jedi masters can barely lift an X-wing that is around a ton. An Elite is hardly any different.

Lets look at characteristics.

Elites
Height: 8'6
Strength: Kill in one simple punch or kick
Weight: 800 Pounds
Weaponry: Energy Sword and Energy Dagger

Jedi
Height: 6'0
Strength: Weak
Weight: 140 Pounds
Weaponry: Lightsaber

Lets say he gets the Elite and pulls him to him to be cut with the Lightsaber, Elites are much smarter than that and would take down the Jedi with him pulling out his dagger and stabbing him as he is getting stabbed.

Although this is very debatable. A Sword would come in contact with a Lightsaber and react just like another lightsaber. Another the Elite can extend much farther.

I'm putting my money on the Elites, just by sheer statistics.

Spartans would probably win. Unless the Jedi used the force heavily to their advantage, like destroying the cover the Spartans have, and throwing each of them around like ragdolls. But each of those would leave them vulnerable to the other Spartans.

Anyways, why I quoted you:

1) Luke wasn't able to lift the X-wing out of the swamp because he wasn't trained in the Force yet, he was still learning. If you took a Master like Yoda in his prime, he could lift the X-wing and twirl it around like nothing.

2)An X-wing definitely weighs more than 1 tonne. A smart car weighs almost 1 tonne. A Jedi can certainly lift more than a smart car.

3) 800lbs is not 1 tonne. It's less than half a tonne. Not the same thing as an X-wing.

4) With the Force, a Jedi can lift much more weight than an Elite. Technically, he's stronger.

5) If an Elite is being pulled to a Jedi by Force, he may be smart enough to stab the Jedi, but he wouldn't be able to do it. He'd be dead before he charged his dagger.

6) In a one-on-one situation, the Jedi would kill an Elite before it could strike twice. The Jedi would know where the Elite was going to attack next, and beat him to it, then counter-attack.


I never said 800IB was a ton. Where did I say that? You think a Jedi can lift massive weights with the force? Force Unleashed is not canon. A Master can barely lift a stack that was about to crush Anakin and Obi Wan. Its obvious a knight or Padawan is MUCH weaker.

Funny. You assume he wouldn't. It's a natural instinct.

That is a lie. Funny how 6000 Jedi can get killed by Clones. If they can't survive Clones, I hardly believe they would compete with the Covenant Elites which are MASSIVE. Incredibly strong and devoted to kill if it means taking their own life.

Idiot, the clones killed them because they outnumbered them. You try fighting thousands of clones swarming at you, all firing lasers, throwing bombs and such with a lightsaber. Although the jedi is more skilled, the sheer weight of numbers will always win.

Second, a Jedi master could lift much more weight than an X-wing, for starters the force is a mystery and living energy, and if one is properly attuned to it (Like Revan in KOTOR), then can achieve amazing feats with little or no effort at all. The fact stands to reason, Jedi in the old republic era (KOTOR, the Old Republic) were much stronger than modern Jedi, because they had heaps of enemies to fight with that used lightsabers. Some idiot made this rule of two which meant only two Dark Jedia are allowed, which made the Jedi order breathe easy and get lazy.
Also, there werent six thousand jedi, there was somewhere between 20-30 Jedi at the start of the emperors rule.

  • 03.13.2011 10:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Caaaarrrl
Rockets explode on contact, goodbye jedi. Bullets melt and send molten debris flying everywhere, everyone's hurt. Plus, lasers are easy to see, bullets aren't. BTW, lasers are one long beam, blasters use plasma.

Blasters use energy cells, not plasma. They fire shots ebcause that's what they were designed to do. Lightsabers are just blaster shot that are really long and stay there for ages.

  • 03.13.2011 10:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
I've heard sw fans claim that blocking a bullet makes the bullet vaporize instantly.

Blocking fire from a team of spratans and carbine shots from Thel would be impossible even for a jedi master however, so they would have to obviously take cover every now and again.


It would vaporize if it hit the blade of a lightsaber. I mean, if the bullet managed to withstand the heat and pass through it oh god would that hurt massively.


I'm a star wars fan and even I disagree on that. The bullet would melt, molten debris would fly everywhere, and the sheer amount of incoming bullets would render deflection null and void.

Pure energy would not send debirs everywhere, the bullet doesnt explode. Read your text before you start. Energy beats projectiles and plasma.

  • 03.13.2011 11:03 PM PDT

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