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Subject: ODST vs. 501st Legion Clone Trooper

MJB

Poll: ODST vs. 501st Legion Clone Trooper  [closed]
ODST of the 105th MEU Division:  46%
(29 Votes)
Clone Troopers of the 501st Legion:  33%
(21 Votes)
Tie:  8%
(5 Votes)
Standoff:  3%
(2 Votes)
Elites:  8%
(5 Votes)
Grunts:  2%
(1 Votes)
Total Votes: 63

a lot of people lately have been making threads comparing jedi and spartans, star wars to halo, but here's a really even match between the to universe's

ODST, the shock troops and elite special forces of the UNSC, "helldropped" from orbit into the combat zone.

Clone Troopers of the 501st Legion, an elite group of clone troopers that would eventually become Darth Vadar's personal Legion of Storm Troopers.

who would win a company vs. company (company is 150-250 troops) battle to the last man in an open industrial sort of terrain?

if ODST's can be compared to elite clone troopers, than that must make grunts analogous to battle droids, "roger roger"

  • 03.06.2011 7:12 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!

  • 03.06.2011 7:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!

  • 03.06.2011 7:16 PM PDT

MJB

i don't know man, ODST' are sneaky little bastards, it would be a close fight for sure,

btw, i don't vote on my own polls

  • 03.06.2011 7:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: MAXPWN197
i don't know man, ODST' are sneaky little bastards, it would be a close fight for sure,

btw, i don't vote on my own polls


Maybe I should follow your lead and not vote on my own polls either.

  • 03.06.2011 7:18 PM PDT

MJB


Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!

correction, it took a few dozen shots to take out a talented something like 13 year old jedi, while trying not to hit a senator with stray fire

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Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!

correction, it took a few dozen shots to take out a talented something like 13 year old jedi, while trying not to hit a senator with stray fire


I saw, in the Temple, a three year old being shot at and after 7 or 8 shots they finally got it.

  • 03.06.2011 7:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!


Could you point out what 3 year old? I mean, the only kids I saw get killed were the ones that Anakin personally killed.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 7:24 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 7:22 PM PDT


Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!

correction, it took a few dozen shots to take out a talented something like 13 year old jedi, while trying not to hit a senator with stray fire


I saw, in the Temple, a three year old being shot at and after 7 or 8 shots they finally got it.


In the temple they did overkill, they shot the body as it fell.

Anyway, most of the time you see the 'stormtrooper effect' in 4-6. Because the main hero can't die, the stormtroopers are gimped like hell.

  • 03.06.2011 7:24 PM PDT

Clone troopers have blaster rifles, and better armor.

  • 03.06.2011 7:26 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!

correction, it took a few dozen shots to take out a talented something like 13 year old jedi, while trying not to hit a senator with stray fire


I saw, in the Temple, a three year old being shot at and after 7 or 8 shots they finally got it.


In the temple they did overkill, they shot the body as it fell.

Anyway, most of the time you see the 'stormtrooper effect' in 4-6. Because the main hero can't die, the stormtroopers are gimped like hell.


That's true, but still the 501st are not the Kamino-grown clones we know and love, they are mass produced, made in a year, almost no weapons training clones. Read Republic Commando: Order 66.

  • 03.06.2011 7:27 PM PDT

Friends before pixels.

ODST's.

They have orbital assets, and when the fighting gets too hot for a squad, they can call in an orbital drop.

(this is assuming that they are on unrestricted fighting terms)

  • 03.06.2011 7:32 PM PDT

Clone troopers, their armor would deflect projectile rounds such as bullets.

  • 03.06.2011 7:35 PM PDT

MJB


Posted by: a casual banana
ODST's.

They have orbital assets, and when the fighting gets too hot for a squad, they can call in an orbital drop.

(this is assuming that they are on unrestricted fighting terms)


i won't go as far as to say your wrong, but let me re-inerate the scenario i set out for this battle:
lets say theres a very important asset that both the ODST's and Clone Trooper need to capture. a company of Clone Trooper get airlifted to the area in republic gunships, and a company of ODST troopers drop in from orbit, long range radios are for both sides are jammed by this asset, no outside support, just the men and their fighting skills, who will win and take home the prize?

  • 03.06.2011 7:38 PM PDT

MJB


Posted by: mojeda101
Clone troopers, their armor would deflect projectile rounds such as bullets.


yes it can in the torso area, but ODST armor, canonically is able to absorb at least one or two plasma bolts, (which are almost completely analogous to laser weapons in star wars)

  • 03.06.2011 7:40 PM PDT
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I still say the ODSTs would win because A. they can shoot, B. they have actual armor, not plastic, protecting them, and C. they have a wider range of weapons and tactics.

  • 03.06.2011 7:41 PM PDT

Friends before pixels.


Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: a casual banana
ODST's.

They have orbital assets, and when the fighting gets too hot for a squad, they can call in an orbital drop.

(this is assuming that they are on unrestricted fighting terms)


i won't go as far as to say your wrong, but let me re-inerate the scenario i set out for this battle:
lets say theres a very important asset that both the ODST's and Clone Trooper need to capture. a company of Clone Trooper get airlifted to the area in republic gunships, and a company of ODST troopers drop in from orbit, long range radios are for both sides are jammed by this asset, no outside support, just the men and their fighting skills, who will win and take home the prize?
Well, ODST's would probably kill a good majority of the Troopers with hit-n-runs, but wouldn't be able to get the objective. The Trooper's have a SERIOUS advantage here because they have been trained to fight as a company. While the ODST's have been trained to fight as a squad. The ODST's win the war. Troopers win the battle.

  • 03.06.2011 7:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Caaaarrrl

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Vader's fist shall reign triumphant over the ODST threat!


Bull-blam!-! 501st can't shoot worth -blam!-, they took several shots to take down a 3-year old! ODST's ftw!
Most of those clones were downgraded second generation clones-of-clones that were grown and trained in under a year, in other words they sucked.

Clone Commandos or ARC troppers however would kick the ODST's asses back to Earth

  • 03.06.2011 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: mojeda101
Clone troopers, their armor would deflect projectile rounds such as bullets.


yes it can in the torso area, but ODST armor, canonically is able to absorb at least one or two plasma bolts, (which are almost completely analogous to laser weapons in star wars)
The clone troopers weapons at the time technicly were plasma.

  • 03.06.2011 7:45 PM PDT

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: mojeda101
Clone troopers, their armor would deflect projectile rounds such as bullets.


yes it can in the torso area, but ODST armor, canonically is able to absorb at least one or two plasma bolts, (which are almost completely analogous to laser weapons in star wars)


Not true. Plasma is no where near the same as Laser weaponry.

  • 03.06.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Rayzor1995

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: mojeda101
Clone troopers, their armor would deflect projectile rounds such as bullets.


yes it can in the torso area, but ODST armor, canonically is able to absorb at least one or two plasma bolts, (which are almost completely analogous to laser weapons in star wars)
The clone troopers weapons at the time technicly were plasma.


False, Plasma and Laser are two completely different things.

  • 03.06.2011 7:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Caaaarrrl
I still say the ODSTs would win because A. they can shoot, B. they have actual armor, not plastic, protecting them, and C. they have a wider range of weapons and tactics.


Close, but it's not Plastic, It's Plastisteel, a huge difference. It is more than enough to deflect rounds of weapons we use.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 7:52 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 7:51 PM PDT

MJB

Posted by: Rayzor1995

Clone Commandos or ARC troppers however would kick the ODST's asses back to Earth


we're not just talking about average clone troopers, were taking about the 501st legion: Vadar's Fist!

  • 03.06.2011 7:53 PM PDT

We were somewhere around Barstow...

ODST has Splaser. ODST wins.

  • 03.06.2011 7:54 PM PDT

MJB


Posted by: mojeda101

yes it can in the torso area, but ODST armor, canonically is able to absorb at least one or two plasma bolts, (which are almost completely analogous to laser weapons in star wars)[/quote]The clone troopers weapons at the time technicly were plasma.[/quote]

False, Plasma and Laser are two completely different things.


i realize that lasers and plasma fire are two different things, but the way they behave in their respective universe's is very similar.

  • 03.06.2011 8:07 PM PDT

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