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Subject: Is the information in Halo: Cryptum actually canon? Says who?


Posted by: Wolverfrog
Posted by: red alert447

Posted by: Wolverfrog
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
I don't understand why the humans didn't just ask the Forerunners for help against the Flood. The Didact says that the Forerunners didn't even know about the Flood until after defeating the humans, which I find hard to believe.

It was probably an ONI cover-up. Even ancient humanity had ONI to cover everything up.
Humanity didn't need help beating the flood, the succeeded in it on their own. What they needed was living space, something the Forerunners weren't willing to give. And in the beginning of the war, the humans were kicking Forerunner ass.


I haven't finished the book yet, but I remember the Didact saying that the Flood pushed the humans back, and they had no choice but to move into Forerunner territory.

So surely, rather than fight another war, they would have asked the Forerunners for help against the true enemy; the Flood?


Humans killed flood, Forerunners didn't like that.
therefore they devolved us to cavemen.

Oni covered up????
the chances that Oni existed then is: 4+4=8 so 0,000001 maybe


I believe you may have set a new record for the amount of total failure in one post.

The Forerunners didn't war with humanity because they killed the Flood. It was because humanity was encroaching on their territory, and probably a few other reasons.

With regards to ONI, I was joking, you utter tool. Could you really not see that?

Ooh, so you were joking.
more like "oh no, i was wrong, got to find an excuse quick"

[Edited on 03.08.2011 9:30 AM PST]

  • 03.08.2011 9:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ajw34307
Think of this to be like the Star Wars prequels,

Ruining the series back story for everyone? Absolutely.

Since when did your opinion become the standard for everybody else?

Like you said earlier, it has ruined it for you. End of story. There is nothing else on top of that. It is not "ruined it for everybody".

  • 03.08.2011 9:48 AM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ajw34307
Think of this to be like the Star Wars prequels,

Ruining the series back story for everyone? Absolutely.

Since when did your opinion become the standard for everybody else?

Like you said earlier, it has ruined it for you. End of story. There is nothing else on top of that. It is not "ruined it for everybody".


Anton, why is the Universe forum suddenly being filled with arrogant bastards and versus threads?

  • 03.08.2011 9:51 AM PDT

CrimsonPandaStudios

Everything published with the halo name is canon as long as it isnt stated that it isnt

  • 03.08.2011 10:18 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ajw34307
Think of this to be like the Star Wars prequels,

Ruining the series back story for everyone? Absolutely.

Since when did your opinion become the standard for everybody else?

Like you said earlier, it has ruined it for you. End of story. There is nothing else on top of that. It is not "ruined it for everybody".


Since right > wrong. Which has always been. Cryptum was such a poorly imagined and poorly thought out story that it just wrecks the Haloverse. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of being able to see that and not being able to see it.

  • 03.08.2011 11:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ajw34307
Think of this to be like the Star Wars prequels,

Ruining the series back story for everyone? Absolutely.

Since when did your opinion become the standard for everybody else?

Like you said earlier, it has ruined it for you. End of story. There is nothing else on top of that. It is not "ruined it for everybody".


Since right > wrong. Which has always been. Cryptum was such a poorly imagined and poorly thought out story that it just wrecks the Haloverse. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of being able to see that and not being able to see it.


And Cryptum "wrecks the Haloverse" how exactly from your point of view?

  • 03.08.2011 11:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: dahuterschuter
Posted by: ajw34307
Think of this to be like the Star Wars prequels,

Ruining the series back story for everyone? Absolutely.

Since when did your opinion become the standard for everybody else?

Like you said earlier, it has ruined it for you. End of story. There is nothing else on top of that. It is not "ruined it for everybody".


Since right > wrong. Which has always been. Cryptum was such a poorly imagined and poorly thought out story that it just wrecks the Haloverse. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a matter of being able to see that and not being able to see it.


This might be the saddest thing I've read in some time. Cryptum is the best thing to happen to the Halo universe in years. It is the most interesting, original, unique and best written piece of fiction I think I've ever read that's officially tied to Halo, and I've read all that I know exist. All that and it's only the first part of a trilogy(which I really don't understand how people can proclaim anything ruined when they only know a third of the story so far). I really can't wait to see where it goes.

  • 03.08.2011 11:27 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: StealthSlasher2
And Cryptum "wrecks the Haloverse" how exactly from your point of view?


In the exact same way the Star Wars prequels were detrimental to the originals, except somehow worse. There's huge potential for an amazing background in the Haloverse which is hinted at in the games through the dialogue and the terminals. It was awesome to theorize on the history of the Halo galaxy.

Then along comes Cryptum with an unimaginative story which goes against most things that were hinted at and said in the games. It destroys the mystery surrounding the Precursor, and gives us a ridiculous story of a pre-existing human empire. It made humans not the Forerunner's awesome chosen ones, but just their last resort sort of thing. Now, where humans had been a special species of the Forerunner, we're really just their little science project. I could go on such a rant but I'll kindly stop.

Basically, the novel just took all the mystery out of the Haloverse, and replaced it with a terrible story.

  • 03.08.2011 11:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: StealthSlasher2
And Cryptum "wrecks the Haloverse" how exactly from your point of view?


In the exact same way the Star Wars prequels were detrimental to the originals, except somehow worse. There's huge potential for an amazing background in the Haloverse which is hinted at in the games through the dialogue and the terminals. It was awesome to theorize on the history of the Halo galaxy.

Then along comes Cryptum with an unimaginative story which goes against most things that were hinted at and said in the games. It destroys the mystery surrounding the Precursor, and gives us a ridiculous story of a pre-existing human empire. It made humans not the Forerunner's awesome chosen ones, but just their last resort sort of thing. Now, where humans had been a special species of the Forerunner, we're really just their little science project. I could go on such a rant but I'll kindly stop.

Basically, the novel just took all the mystery out of the Haloverse, and replaced it with a terrible story.


First off, this is only the first book in the trilogy. We have no idea that we're just their last resort. We're the ones who were able to defeat the Flood and they couldn't do it without wiping out everything else. Seems like once they realise how bad the Flood are, we become a lot more important than a last resort. This seems to fit with what's been hinted at in all of the Halo games. Why would the Forerunner leave humanity as their Reclaimers and leave surviving Flood samples protected from the firing of the Halos for us to find once we started reclaiming their structures? This story explains a lot that would otherwise make no sense at all in a very interesting way and contradicts nothing that has been stated before.

If you're building up a big mystery, and then the time comes to reveal the mystery, it would be pretty -blam!- to just write a story that spells out everything that was "hinted at" exactly as expected(good mysteries leave hints that make you are accurate with the solution to the mystery, but may lead you to think of something else so you don't solve the mystery and ruin the big moment when it's revealed AKA a red herring). The WHOLE POINT of a GOOD mystery is that the solution should not be something you easily predicted, the solution should suprise you but still totally fit with what has gone before exactly like the Forerunner Trilogy does so far.

[Edited on 03.08.2011 11:40 AM PST]

  • 03.08.2011 11:37 AM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

343i owns the Halo franchise. They published the book so its canon.

  • 03.08.2011 11:49 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.


Posted by: Fearing


So I'm just going to type in my thoughts as I read your reply.

Yeah, it did all that and it's only the first book. I don't even want to think of what the next two will do to Halo.

The whole thought of having a previous space-faring human race is just a terrible idea. It wasn't really necessary at all and it seems like the only reason for it is because they didn't want a novel without human characters in it. It just seems like a lazy way to shove in humans to a story that didn't need them. It explain things in an interesting way at all.

But this isn't a mystery series. This is sci-fi. The "mystery," isn't something to be solved, it's something that adds awe to the experience. It adds grandeur and amazement at the things that exists in the Halo universe. There should be no big build-up at all because the mystery wasn't created intentionally, but just as a consequence of a lack of information. Information which could have been amazing but instead became Cryptum.

It's not supposed to be a "good mystery," just the unknown. Mystery isn't even really the right word. It's supposed to be a potential for discovery and exploration.

  • 03.08.2011 11:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 2104
Everything published with the halo name is canon as long as it isnt stated that it isnt


This is the type of enraging statement that will raise my blood-pressure and heartbeat to dangerous levels... so if I manage to retain self-unexploded fingers for typing, hear me out.

Tomorrow I go out and publish "Halo: The Real Story". It is a collection of shapes and amorphous blobs that I created from clay. I film myself casting them up into the wind, tack on some heavy-metal beats, and burn this 15 second film to a DVD. I then use a Sharpie marker to draw an artistic cover. This is "Halo: The Real Story", and it is canon; it represents the totality of events of the Battle of Reach. And you think it is canon because it isn't stated otherwise.

This canon policy is fascinatingly no more than an imaginative exercise, to see what one may envision and rename. It is honestly an act of free imagination. Have fun, please.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
343i owns the Halo franchise. They published the book so its canon.


This is a painful argumentum ad verecundiam. Painful. "Boeing makes planes therefore they can force me to ride in them." Can you please prove me wrong... I am just fascinated by this mentality.


Edit: In my sarcasm, I intend no disrespect. I am just sincerely baffled by these amazing statements.

[Edited on 03.08.2011 12:13 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2011 12:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: paulmarv
Posted by: Spartan 2104
Everything published with the halo name is canon as long as it isnt stated that it isnt


This is the type of enraging statement that will raise my blood-pressure and heartbeat to dangerous levels... so if I manage to retain self-unexploded fingers for typing, hear me out.

Tomorrow I go out and publish "Halo: The Real Story". It is a collection of shapes and amorphous blobs that I created from clay. I film myself casting them up into the wind, tack on some heavy-metal beats, and burn this 15 second film to a DVD. I then use a Sharpie marker to draw an artistic cover. This is "Halo: The Real Story", and it is canon; it represents the totality of events of the Battle of Reach. And you think it is canon because it isn't stated otherwise.

This canon policy is fascinatingly no more than an imaginative exercise, to see what one may envision and rename. It is honestly an act of free imagination. Have fun, please.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
343i owns the Halo franchise. They published the book so its canon.


This is a painful argumentum ad verecundiam. Painful. "Boeing makes planes therefore they can force me to ride in them." Can you please prove me wrong... I am just fascinated by this mentality.


Edit: In my sarcasm, I intend no disrespect. I am just sincerely baffled by these amazing statements.

Well can you argue with the point that 343i decide what's canon? No, of course not. None of us can. Believe me, I'm not a fanboy who just blindly accepts any Halo labeled crap that's thrown at me. I have long held the belief that if something doesn't make sense to me then I will choose to alter it/ignore so that it does make sense e.g. Legends.

However, from an official standpoint, anything declared canon by 343i is canon. I have read your post and understand your viewpoint on these issues. I'm simply saying that there is nothing we can do about it officially, hence my "personalised canon" which allows me to continue to enjoy the Franchise. I actually agree with your Summa Canonica, I'd love to have an offical group or thread to use your policy to sort out the inconsistencies and issues withing Halo canon from a logical perspective.

Besides, Cryptum doesn't break canon so I don't understand the questioning of it's canonicity in this instance.

[Edited on 03.08.2011 1:28 PM PST]

  • 03.08.2011 1:07 PM PDT

Posted by: red alert447
Ooh, so you were joking.
more like "oh no, i was wrong, got to find an excuse quick"


Urgh, you obviously don't know me. I would have to be deluded to believe ONI existed in the time of the ancient human empire. The fact that you can't grasp the fact that it was a joke is, quite frankly, astounding.

I've written three popular fan fictions set in the Halo universe, finished two of them, one totaling nearly 400 pages, and I've written multiple theories in this forum too. I know a heck of a lot more than you do about the Halo universe, and unless you're trolling, I can bloody guarantee that I'm a lot more intelligent than your abysmally witted self too.

  • 03.08.2011 1:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: Fearing


So I'm just going to type in my thoughts as I read your reply.

Yeah, it did all that and it's only the first book. I don't even want to think of what the next two will do to Halo.

The whole thought of having a previous space-faring human race is just a terrible idea. It wasn't really necessary at all and it seems like the only reason for it is because they didn't want a novel without human characters in it. It just seems like a lazy way to shove in humans to a story that didn't need them. It explain things in an interesting way at all.

But this isn't a mystery series. This is sci-fi. The "mystery," isn't something to be solved, it's something that adds awe to the experience. It adds grandeur and amazement at the things that exists in the Halo universe. There should be no big build-up at all because the mystery wasn't created intentionally, but just as a consequence of a lack of information. Information which could have been amazing but instead became Cryptum.

It's not supposed to be a "good mystery," just the unknown. Mystery isn't even really the right word. It's supposed to be a potential for discovery and exploration.



The mystery WAS created intentionally. All throughout Halo CE there are hints at things; dangling plot points about the Forerunner and their connection to humanity, and those continues throughout almost every piece of Halo fiction to be released since. They are intentionally a mystery otherwise they wouldn't keep teasing it with little bits of added information. Hell Bungie even developed concept art of what Forerunner might look like to put into Halo 3 when they planned for it to be the end of Halo.

Not knowing about the Forerunner doesn't add awe. Seeing what they've done and were able to create and how large their empire must have been adds awe. Not knowing about them adds MYSTERY, but after ten years that mystery loses a lot if they just keep tediously stringing it out and don't offer any kind of resolution. At some point if it's not going to be explained, then there's no more reason for adding details to find out about it in future stories working towards something that doesn't exist. It just becomes -blam!-ion.

I don't think putting space faring humans in the novel was any attempt to wedge humans into a story where they wouldn't fit. Clearly humans would have been in the story in some way to begin with. Humans are the Reclaimers and a major reason for this story is to find out why we become such. The story of Cryptum, while very unexpected, seems like easily the most logical explanation as to why the Forerunner would make Humans their Reclaimers, and instead of killing all the Flood, save some on Halo rings and other protected labs to be studied by... who else? Some primitive species that they knew nothing about. If they were going to leave the Flood there, and make us the Reclaimers of all this stuff(incuding the labs with Flood in them) they either really hated us and were planning a very evil slow-burn revenge, or they knew we had the potential to stop the Flood without destroying everything in the galaxy. That would have required us to have been fairly advanced (makes me wonder if the Legendary ending to ODST and what the Prophet finds underground near the ark has anything to do with ancient humanity, but that's another subject all together)to have done that previously so that the Forerunners knew of our potential. It really makes a lot more sense than any other theory I've ever heard.

Why is humans having been space fairing long before our recorded history any less amazing and grand than having the Forerunner be unknown? If anything it makes the whole Halo universe a lot more amazing, interesting and full of potential. It's clear that they hint at some mystery to the history of the Prophets race in the Halo 3 bestiarium and other places and aside from all the things Cryptum does for the mystery of the Human/Forerunner connection, it also really fleshes out what was set up in there.

  • 03.08.2011 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
I lol'd at the absurd miscommunication that occurs whenever dibbs post something. Perhaps his brain is so highly evolved that he can no longer clearly communicate with lesser life forms, even among his own species.

This is the way the Universe forum ends...

Feelings overruling facts.
Flaming becoming a necessity because meaningful conversation is dead.
The exodus of intelligence.

Pathetic.

  • 03.08.2011 1:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: switch 104 sv
Posted by: paulmarv
Posted by: Spartan 2104
Everything published with the halo name is canon as long as it isnt stated that it isnt


This is the type of enraging statement that will raise my blood-pressure and heartbeat to dangerous levels... so if I manage to retain self-unexploded fingers for typing, hear me out.

Tomorrow I go out and publish "Halo: The Real Story". It is a collection of shapes and amorphous blobs that I created from clay. I film myself casting them up into the wind, tack on some heavy-metal beats, and burn this 15 second film to a DVD. I then use a Sharpie marker to draw an artistic cover. This is "Halo: The Real Story", and it is canon; it represents the totality of events of the Battle of Reach. And you think it is canon because it isn't stated otherwise.

This canon policy is fascinatingly no more than an imaginative exercise, to see what one may envision and rename. It is honestly an act of free imagination. Have fun, please.

Posted by: switch 104 sv
343i owns the Halo franchise. They published the book so its canon.


This is a painful argumentum ad verecundiam. Painful. "Boeing makes planes therefore they can force me to ride in them." Can you please prove me wrong... I am just fascinated by this mentality.


Edit: In my sarcasm, I intend no disrespect. I am just sincerely baffled by these amazing statements.

Well can you argue with the point that 343i decide what's canon? No, of course not. None of us can. Believe me, I'm not a fanboy who just blindly accepts any Halo labeled crap that's thrown at me. I have long held the belief that if something doesn't make sense to me then I will choose to alter it/ignore so that it does make sense e.g. Legends.

However, from an official standpoint, anything declared canon by 343i is canon. I have read your post and understand your viewpoint on these issues. I'm simply saying that there is nothing we can do about it officially, hence my "personalised canon" which allows me to continue to enjoy the Franchise. I actually agree with your Summa Canonica, I'd love to have an offical group or thread to use your policy to sort out the inconsistencies and issues withing Halo canon from a logical perspective.


It seems I've misinterpreted your stance; I apologize. I agree. But you need to be very careful when using the word "official" because many will take that to mean "true". 343 defines the "official" canon when one receives the phrase "official canon" to designate that canon that the legally empowered and popularly influential entity puts forwards. To reduce this further, it is saying that what 343 says is canon is what 343 says is canon - which is absolutely true. But people may often take "official" (by this measure) canon and accept it as true canon, which is most unfortunate and misleading sometimes. I can certainly agree with you about Legends, although I cannot fairly pass judgment of Cryptum. I was addressing the general mentality.

And I absolutely share the same desire to catalog canonical representations and have a library of intelligent discussions, using our base policies, to determine canonicity (or perhaps even determine that we can't). I want to have that more than you can know... but in order for that to happen, there needs to be enough qualified people, and they also need to be able to put in the time. I'm guessing we don't have that right now, but I could very well be wrong about that.

  • 03.08.2011 2:13 PM PDT


Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: ajw34307
*Claps slowly*

Had you read the rest of my post, you'd have known what I'd been getting at.

Cryptum doesn't ruin the Halo story or backstory in any way at all. -_-


*Stands up and cheers*

Had you read my previous post, you'd have known that it completely destroys the Halo series for the chief reason that the story is retarded.


because, you know, your opinion supercedes the opinions of the entire community AND the Halo Bible, which has been around for as long as Halo.

right... -___-

  • 03.08.2011 2:35 PM PDT
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But only the games are supposed to draw the ire of the Universe forum!

  • 03.08.2011 2:40 PM PDT

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Why can't it be canon? Just because you don't like it? We knew next to nothing about the time before the firing of the array before Cryptum, and what little we did know was largely surmised based on very cryptic and incomplete information.

It's no less canon than Contact Harvest. In fact, it has a stronger canonical standing than Halo: Reach, considering the fact that they didn't have to change any information to make it work.

  • 03.08.2011 2:43 PM PDT

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It's a shame to see a small minority of idiots slowly infecting this place...

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Posted by: ajw34307
It's a shame to see a small minority of idiots slowly infecting this place...
To be fair, calling them idiots is not going to help resolve the issue. If someone wants to be arrogant and argue their opinion as fact, just don't reply, as they obviously have no desire to carry on an actual conversation.

  • 03.08.2011 2:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan999
Posted by: ajw34307
It's a shame to see a small minority of idiots slowly infecting this place...
To be fair, calling them idiots is not going to help resolve the issue. If someone wants to be arrogant and argue their opinion as fact, just don't reply, as they obviously have no desire to carry on an actual conversation.


True. I was just making a generalisation.

  • 03.08.2011 3:03 PM PDT

Posted By: paulmarv
This is the type of enraging statement that will raise my blood-pressure and heartbeat to dangerous levels... so if I manage to retain self-unexploded fingers for typing, hear me out.

Tomorrow I go out and publish "Halo: The Real Story". It is a collection of shapes and amorphous blobs that I created from clay. I film myself casting them up into the wind, tack on some heavy-metal beats, and burn this 15 second film to a DVD. I then use a Sharpie marker to draw an artistic cover. This is "Halo: The Real Story", and it is canon; it represents the totality of events of the Battle of Reach. And you think it is canon because it isn't stated otherwise.

This canon policy is fascinatingly no more than an imaginative exercise, to see what one may envision and rename. It is honestly an act of free imagination. Have fun, please.


Good God, do you even realize how stupid you sound? The guy you quoted is completely right, if 343, or rather Microsoft, publishes any material pertaining to the Halo series, it is canon unless otherwise stated by them, and nothing you say can contradict that. You may not like it and choose to outright ignore whatever was created, but that does not change that it is canon.

And your idea would not be canon, no matter what you did, hell, it wouldn't even be fanfiction, hahaha. And you wouldn't be able to publish it, even if you did sell it, you probably find yourself winding up with either legal action or an order to cease and desist.

This is a painful argumentum ad verecundiam. Painful. "Boeing makes planes therefore they can force me to ride in them." Can you please prove me wrong... I am just fascinated by this mentality.

Your analogy is completely, totally, and utterly different as well as wrong. It is nothing at all like what switch said. If Microsoft has something published it IS canon. They own the rights to the story, they decide what is, and is not, fact in the Halo story.

  • 03.08.2011 8:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: dahuterschuter

Posted by: Fearing


So I'm just going to type in my thoughts as I read your reply.

Yeah, it did all that and it's only the first book. I don't even want to think of what the next two will do to Halo.

The whole thought of having a previous space-faring human race is just a terrible idea. It wasn't really necessary at all and it seems like the only reason for it is because they didn't want a novel without human characters in it. It just seems like a lazy way to shove in humans to a story that didn't need them. It explain things in an interesting way at all.

But this isn't a mystery series. This is sci-fi. The "mystery," isn't something to be solved, it's something that adds awe to the experience. It adds grandeur and amazement at the things that exists in the Halo universe. There should be no big build-up at all because the mystery wasn't created intentionally, but just as a consequence of a lack of information. Information which could have been amazing but instead became Cryptum.

It's not supposed to be a "good mystery," just the unknown. Mystery isn't even really the right word. It's supposed to be a potential for discovery and exploration.



So in other words the only reason why you consider it terrible is solely because you simply didn't like how the story unfolded rather than it actually screwing up the storyline of the Halo series?

  • 03.08.2011 8:53 PM PDT

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