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Subject: Gears vs. ODST, who is the superior soldier?

Poll: Gears vs. ODST, who is the superior soldier?  [closed]
Delta Squad:  28%
(33 Votes)
ODST Squad:  59%
(69 Votes)
Tie:  13%
(15 Votes)
Total Votes: 117

Tiring of Star Wars vs. Halo threads, instead bringing in a Halo vs. Gears of War thread.

Chairman Prescott signs his Gears up with for a virtual training exercise with the UNSC in hopes of making an alliance with them. The UNSC decides that Buck's ODST squad should be the Squad to go up against Marcus Fenix's Delta Squad.

Each ODST soldier has traditional ODST plate and helmet along with VISR mode and 2 fragmentation grenades each. Buck carries a combat knife.

Each Gear soldier is equipped with COG armor, but none of them ever wear helmets. They are each equipped with two Bolo Grenades. Dom carries a combat knife. Each Lancer assault rifle has a working chainsaw bayonet.

Here are the Rosters:

Buck's ODST Squad

Edward Buck: MA5C, M6C/SOCOM
Taylor H. "Dutch" Miles: MA5C, Spartan Laser
Kojo "Romeo" Agu :SRS99D-S2 AM(sniper rifle), M6C/Socom
Michael "Mickey" Crespo:Rocket Launcher, M6C/Socom
The Rookie: Silenced SMG, M6C/Socom


Delta Squad

Marcus Fenix: Lancer Assault Rifle, Gnasher Shotgun, Snub Pistol
Dominic Santiago: Lancer Assault Rifle, Gnasher Shotgun, Snub Pistol
Damon Baird: Lancer Assault Rifle, Longshot Sniper Rifle, Snub Pistol
Augustus Cole: Lancer Assault Rifle, Gnasher Shotgun, Snub Pistol
Anya Stroud: Lancer Assault Rifle, Hammer of Dawn(Satellites online), Snub Pistol


Can the tough group of ODST take down a grizzled veterans of Marcus Fenix's caliber, or will Delta squad show the ODST that gears mean business?

The Battle takes place in the Halo 3 map, High Ground, with the ODST starting on the bottom outside the base.

They will fight 10 matches, say who you think will win, for example, ODST win 6/10 matches etc.

[Edited on 03.07.2011 6:48 PM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 6:46 PM PDT

All throughout history great empires rise and fall. How you ask?
Two reasons:
1. Economic failure because of either inflation or socialistic programs.
2. War. Their armies were spread too thin and too far from home.

The United States has bases all around the world in "hazardous" areas and it's economy collapses it seems every 20 years. Do you really think that history won't change? Do you really think that you can run the world?

Delta Squad because the ODSTs fall down an emergence hole.

  • 03.07.2011 6:47 PM PDT

the fight is on High Ground, no locust anywhere in sight :P

  • 03.07.2011 6:49 PM PDT

Let's be honest, it could be a lot worse.

It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.

  • 03.07.2011 6:52 PM PDT


Posted by: keeno 111

Posted by: Fly Boy 2113
It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.
Pretty sure odst's would win 90% of there fights with cog. Odst's are trained to drop in from space to Close quaters. That's the point of them.


Also, ODST's wear full armor. The cog squad decides not having helms + arm plating (I remember seeing a few with just the chest piece...) is cool. Sure in the games a headshot kills anyway(due to gameplay), but I'd imagine the helm protects some.

All the ODST squad has to do is draw pistols(Or just keep their normal weapons out) and aim for the head.

Edit: The ODST squad could also go in heavy with shrapnel causing weapons/grenades. Anyplace on the cog without armor would get shredded easily.

[Edited on 03.07.2011 7:13 PM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 7:04 PM PDT

I once heard an old man say " Years ago, i sold my trumpet for something to eat, and know i know it would be better to die of hunger."

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A toughy. I believe ODSTs have superior gear and tactics. Gears usually just charge and try to chain saw or try to hide behind any wall they see.

  • 03.07.2011 7:15 PM PDT

Romeo would snipe them before they got within 20 yards of Buck.

  • 03.07.2011 7:17 PM PDT
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COG are regular military forces. ODSTs are a more skilled, special branch of the UNSC marines. That's like asking if a group of special forces operators can take a squad of marines, that act slightly above average.

  • 03.07.2011 7:25 PM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

this is a tough choice, I'm gonna say they take each other out.

  • 03.07.2011 7:29 PM PDT

Posted by: Sparty Boy 117
COG are regular military forces. ODSTs are a more skilled, special branch of the UNSC marines. That's like asking if a group of special forces operators can take a squad of marines, that act slightly above average.


Dom is trained as a Commando, and Marcus is a better soldier than him anyways.

  • 03.07.2011 7:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: keeno 111

Posted by: Fly Boy 2113
It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.
Pretty sure odst's would win 90% of there fights with cog. Odst's are trained to drop in from space to Close quaters. That's the point of them.


Also, ODST's wear full armor. The cog squad decides not having helms + arm plating (I remember seeing a few with just the chest piece...) is cool. Sure in the games a headshot kills anyway(due to gameplay), but I'd imagine the helm protects some.

All the ODST squad has to do is draw pistols(Or just keep their normal weapons out) and aim for the head.

Edit: The ODST squad could also go in heavy with shrapnel causing weapons/grenades. Anyplace on the cog without armor would get shredded easily.


The big bullets the Sniper uses and the shotgun at close range would easily smash through the ODST helmets...

Note the COG have a laser beam they can call down from space here.

  • 03.07.2011 7:49 PM PDT

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: keeno 111

Posted by: Fly Boy 2113
It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.
Pretty sure odst's would win 90% of there fights with cog. Odst's are trained to drop in from space to Close quaters. That's the point of them.


Also, ODST's wear full armor. The cog squad decides not having helms + arm plating (I remember seeing a few with just the chest piece...) is cool. Sure in the games a headshot kills anyway(due to gameplay), but I'd imagine the helm protects some.

All the ODST squad has to do is draw pistols(Or just keep their normal weapons out) and aim for the head.

Edit: The ODST squad could also go in heavy with shrapnel causing weapons/grenades. Anyplace on the cog without armor would get shredded easily.


The big bullets the Sniper uses and the shotgun at close range would easily smash through the ODST helmets...

Note the COG have a laser beam they can call down from space here.


Also note that the UNSC have SMAC stations that would vaporize a section of land.

  • 03.07.2011 7:53 PM PDT

that is not sported to them in this fight, did you even read the original post?

I told you the weapons each soldier got, and the COG got the Hammer of Dawn.

Is there a weapon in Halo that calls down a Mac Strike? If so that is the stupidest and most suicidal weapon I have ever heard of.

  • 03.07.2011 7:54 PM PDT

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
that is not sported to them in this fight, did you even read the original post?

I told you the weapons each soldier got, and the COG got the Hammer of Dawn.

Is there a weapon in Halo that calls down a Mac Strike? If so that is the stupidest and most suicidal weapon I have ever heard of.


Well, the H-165 FOM does not fire down MAC's although it is an Artillary strike firing 7 105mm Missiles.

  • 03.07.2011 8:01 PM PDT

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
that is not sported to them in this fight, did you even read the original post?

I told you the weapons each soldier got, and the COG got the Hammer of Dawn.

Is there a weapon in Halo that calls down a Mac Strike? If so that is the stupidest and most suicidal weapon I have ever heard of.


Well, the H-165 FOM does not fire down MAC's although it is an Artillary strike firing 7 105mm Missiles.



You really don't seem to understand the point of this thread.

It is the squads against each other.
The ODST don't get any air support. Neither do the Gears get any attack helicopters on there side.

Only HAND HELD weapons and things they carry on them are being used in the fight.

READ THE OP before posting in a thread.

  • 03.07.2011 8:05 PM PDT

"As the rich wage war, it's the poor who die"
"We've all been lost for most of our lives every where we turn more hatred surrounds us"

dutch carries a portable hammer of dawn..... just sayin

  • 03.07.2011 8:12 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.

Marcus shoots a couple times, charging at Buck, reving up the chainsaw, Buck easilly pushes it out f the way, stabbing his knife in Marcus's head.

Cole and Mickey are at a stand still, both have ran out of ammo, Mickey says something really stupid, "What the-" Cole is cut off from a frag to the mouth.

Dutch and Dominic hit head on, Dom knocks Dutch off the roof, colliding into the Machine Gun turret, Dom notices the unhooked machine gun, picking it up. But before he can use it, a rocket blasts into the conopy, splattering Dom all over. Mickey waves to Dutch.

Dutch notices a barrel pointing from a large hole in the wall, walks ovr, grabs the rifle and man, Damon says "-blam!- you-" but is slienced by multipe punches, and then a mag of smg rounds to the face.

Romeo crouches down, Anya puts on a helmet and turns into carmine. Her head explodes from an anti material round.

The rook wakes up, saying...nothing.

[Edited on 03.07.2011 8:18 PM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 8:16 PM PDT

Spartan Laser vs. Hammer of dawn is a good comparison.

although I think HOD > Spartan Laser

HOD has no battery.
HOD fires continuously for a few seconds while the spartan laser shoots once then needs to cool down to be shot again.
HOD can be aimed over cover.
Also while the Splaser seems to just punched through targets the HOD actually disintegrates people.

  • 03.07.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
that is not sported to them in this fight, did you even read the original post?

I told you the weapons each soldier got, and the COG got the Hammer of Dawn.

Is there a weapon in Halo that calls down a Mac Strike? If so that is the stupidest and most suicidal weapon I have ever heard of.


Well, the H-165 FOM does not fire down MAC's although it is an Artillary strike firing 7 105mm Missiles.



You really don't seem to understand the point of this thread.

It is the squads against each other.
The ODST don't get any air support. Neither do the Gears get any attack helicopters on there side.

Only HAND HELD weapons and things they carry on them are being used in the fight.

READ THE OP before posting in a thread.


Lol, the H-165 FOM, IS handheld smart one. Don't judge something if you don't know what it is. If it is what they carry on their backs, the Hammer of Dawn in that should not count.

  • 03.07.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Posted by: mojeda101
Lol, the H-165 FOM, IS handheld smart one. Don't judge something if you don't know what it is. If it is what they carry on their backs, the Hammer of Dawn in that should not count.


I know what it is, but for it to work, they need to call in an airstrike.
That is support.
A Hammer of Dawn is not support, it is fired from orbiting Satellites that are always in orbit.
And Gears do sometimes carry HOD's around.

  • 03.07.2011 8:20 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
that is not sported to them in this fight, did you even read the original post?

I told you the weapons each soldier got, and the COG got the Hammer of Dawn.

Is there a weapon in Halo that calls down a Mac Strike? If so that is the stupidest and most suicidal weapon I have ever heard of.


Well, the H-165 FOM does not fire down MAC's although it is an Artillary strike firing 7 105mm Missiles.



You really don't seem to understand the point of this thread.

It is the squads against each other.
The ODST don't get any air support. Neither do the Gears get any attack helicopters on there side.

Only HAND HELD weapons and things they carry on them are being used in the fight.

READ THE OP before posting in a thread.


Lol, the H-165 FOM, IS handheld smart one. Don't judge something if you don't know what it is. If it is what they carry on their backs, the Hammer of Dawn in that should not count.

Read post dumbass. No airstrike.

  • 03.07.2011 8:21 PM PDT

Posted by: egore11
Marcus shoots a couple times, charging at Buck, reving up the chainsaw, Buck easilly pushes it out f the way, stabbing his knife in Marcus's head.
This isn't how Marcus fights at all. He would most certainly outpower Buck in a hand to hand fight, he is a monster of a man. Buck would want to keep the fight at mid range. Marcus is an expert at mid range combat but so is Buck, so this fight could go 50/50.

Cole and Mickey are at a stand still, both have ran out of ammo, Mickey says something really stupid, "What the-" Cole is cut off from a frag to the mouth.
That doesn't make much sense. Cole could pick Mickey up and bounce him off the ground like a basketball. The only reason Mickey has a chance is because he has a rocket launcher.

Dutch and Dominic hit head on, Dom knocks Dutch off the roof, colliding into the Machine Gun turret, Dom notices the unhooked machine gun, picking it up. But before he can use it, a rocket blasts into the conopy, splattering Dom all over. Mickey waves to Dutch.
Okay, wtf, you already said Mickey was out of ammo... Did he pull another rocket out of his behind?

Dutch notices a barrel pointing from a large hole in the wall, walks ovr, grabs the rifle and man, Damon says "-blam!- you-" but is slienced by multipe punches, and then a mag of smg rounds to the face.
What was Baird doing this whole time, looking at the sky?

Romeo crouches down, Anya puts on a helmet and turns into carmine. Her head explodes from an anti material round.
Speaking of that, what was Romeo doing this whole time? These teams have the worst snipers ever.

The rook wakes up, saying...nothing.


Entertaining, nonetheless.

  • 03.07.2011 8:26 PM PDT

Wait, so the Cog squad gets the hammer of dawn, yet the ODST squad gets nothing similar? Haha trying to make it one-sided.

If the ODST group is not allowed any vehicles, air strike/support, or artillery, then the Cog squad is disqualified by default for Hammer of Dawn.

  • 03.07.2011 8:27 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Wait, so the Cog squad gets the hammer of dawn, yet the ODST squad gets nothing similar? Haha trying to make it one-sided.

If the ODST group is not allowed any vehicles, air strike/support, or artillery, then the Cog squad is disqualified by default for Hammer of Dawn.


What?
The ODST Squad has much better weapons.
They have a Spartan Laser, a Rocket Launcher, A sniper Rifle that shoots 4 bullets instead of 1 and you want to take away the COG's best weapon?
That totally unbalances the fight.

as I said, HOD pretty much equals the Splaser.

  • 03.07.2011 8:29 PM PDT