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Subject: Gears vs. ODST, who is the superior soldier?

the chainsaws could saw through pretty much anything.
They saw through a completely bullet proof rift worm in gears two, along with a tank.

  • 03.08.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.

  • 03.08.2011 9:21 PM PDT


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.

  • 03.08.2011 9:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.


you highly underestimate the Gears tactical skills it seems.

  • 03.08.2011 10:24 PM PDT


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.


you highly underestimate the Gears tactical skills it seems.


And you seem to find it hard for a special ops soldier to land a headshot and medium-close distance on a larger target with an exposed head.

  • 03.08.2011 10:25 PM PDT

Whoa that's an insane idea.
I honestly can't decide.

  • 03.09.2011 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.


you highly underestimate the Gears tactical skills it seems.


And you seem to find it hard for a special ops soldier to land a headshot and medium-close distance on a larger target with an exposed head.

on a target who'll be moving and possibly dodge-rolling...?
yeah would be pretty tough.

  • 03.09.2011 5:48 AM PDT

MY AIM IS TO FLY A SABER IN MATCHMAKEING

This aint even a competition. It's ODST's all the "blaming" way, look yeah COG have chainsaws on gunz and fight stuff the can grab ya by the feet and drag ya to hell, but comeon.

The ODST's 1. Get sent into the fight in a flying coffin
2. Thay have to fall from space in said coffin
3. 90% off the time every one around them are Squid lips

  • 03.09.2011 6:13 AM PDT

you can't compare by what they fight.

First off, grindlifts are basically the same as drop pods, probably more dangerous because they don't know what they are drilling into.

Second, Elites are tougher than locust drones for sure, but Drones are wayyy tougher than grunts and jackals.

The toughest locust like Kantus are as tough as elites, although probably not as smart, and Boomers are tough but not as tough as Hunters.

Still considering the main cannon fodder the COG fights is stronger than the Cannon fodder the UNSC fights it's impressive.

  • 03.09.2011 6:22 AM PDT

MY AIM IS TO FLY A SABER IN MATCHMAKEING


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
you can't compare by what they fight.

First off, grindlifts are basically the same as drop pods, probably more dangerous because they don't know what they are drilling into.




DOOD your in space in a drop pod ya got to worry aba Micro debris, not to mention the slightest misshap and your going to be cooked like a roast dinner, or even hit the ground at the wrong angle and hit a river and sink like a stone or just spash into the side off a something to fast and blow up.

i played gears mate and im looking to get 3 when it comes out im not saying thay aint bad ass just odst have to put up with a lot more crap.

and thay dont look like ther on stedz 24/7 ither

  • 03.09.2011 6:40 AM PDT

I would like to point out that the ODSTs are just as battle hardened as the cogs... infact more so.

ODST's win

[Edited on 03.09.2011 11:49 AM PST]

  • 03.09.2011 11:43 AM PDT


Posted by: SPARTAN925

Posted by: jonesy90000
I would like to point out that the ODSTs are just as battle hardened as the cogs... infact more so.

ODST's win

i prefer halo but this isnt valid
wow im battle hardned but does that realy help when someone has a chainshaw reving in my back?
im saying tie,though ODST'S are faster,the are wepeons to consider,armour and just pure logic,ODSTs dont have radars and as such have to relie on vision,wait i just realised,was i the only one who on ODST always had the fog skull on?
anyway thats not the point,is this just any odst squad we're talking about? i need to know b4 i carrie on
BTW i LOVE halo
just this is a tough one


The 'squad' the OP uses is Buck's squad.

  • 03.09.2011 12:13 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.

Headshot.

  • 03.09.2011 12:49 PM PDT

not true.

The gears have been through multiple wars with humans and multiple years of fighting locust.

The ODST are all vets but they haven't fought in the kind of battles the gears have.

  • 03.09.2011 12:57 PM PDT

I am a monument to all your sins

The ODSTs could beat a squad of fat racial stereotypes with chainsaw guns any day.

  • 03.09.2011 1:01 PM PDT


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
not true.

The gears have been through multiple wars with humans and multiple years of fighting locust.

The ODST are all vets but they haven't fought in the kind of battles the gears have.


And in the same token, the Gears haven't seen the type of battles the ODST's have.

I highly doubt they've seen the Covenant overrun a planet then glass it. Or completely decimate a fleet.

  • 03.09.2011 1:07 PM PDT

Delta Squad, no contest.

Dare's Squad might be good when it comes to survive an invasion, and they are skilled ODSTs, but all that day they only fought to survive, not to win a war.

Also, I actually care for each member of Delta Squad, the characters are better developed. In ODST, not only you are forced to accept their personalities, but they only appear for a single game.

  • 03.09.2011 1:38 PM PDT

TBH, I only played Gears of War 2, and I didn't care much for them...

You can easily say they are more developed since they showed up for two (three including the one coming out) games, where as Buck's squad only showed up in one. I'm not sure what "Forced to accept their personalities" comes from...

*Shrug* personal opinion but I liked the ODSTs more then Delta Squad.

  • 03.09.2011 1:51 PM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.


From reading the Helljumper comic, its obvious the ODSTs are artists with accuracy, especial;y pistols. I think it was Dutch who pulled 6 headshots with a pistol on 6 Grunts before they even knew they were there.

ODST are brillian tacticians, capable of crippling entire armies without being seen (again: Helljumpers). They have superior technology, a nearly Spartan-like mind for warfare and strategy, and are far more nimble.

COGs seriously can't win this fight

(NOTE: No indirect support).

  • 03.09.2011 2:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: II R3D II
Posted by: egore11

Posted by: II R3D II
You know to be honest i've never seen the cogs charging a locust position in the game, when they have to defend an area, with a key strategical advantage... *this being higher ground*

Hence i think it's pretty clear who would win... ODST's are good no doubt, but the few poultry COGS that are still alive in GEARS are harder than coffin nails...

ODST's they're good, but they're built for special ops, not entrenched warfare and prolonged durations of combat, living in horrible conditions, and with little to no support being available due to nemesis and the fact that they don't have huge flying ships, with massive armaments...

TL:DR COGS are more adapt to the extremeties of war... at its worst, whilst ODST's are built for special ops (quick in and out insertions)

No, ODSTs are pretty much Green Beret but with heavy armor, a drop pod instead of parachutes, nd a shoulder mounted laser. I mean, have you seen the Halo Barid? He's bigger than any COG. But this is Dare's squad, but if one sergent can take on a menace more powerful then the locust times a million, Dare's squad can take on steriod addicts and a stupid -blam!-.

You don't know what your talking about.



I'm pretty sure the locust are much more scarier than the covenant, enemies which deploy from the sky you can see coming, enemies coming up from below you is impossible to see coming. *disregarding numbers obviously, cos otherwise this thread is completely biased, due to scaling*

In response to what you said earlier "one sergeant take on a menace more powerful then the locust times a million" please explain what this menace is... and don't just say the covenant, because this sergeant your talking about never took on the whole covenant at one time did he???

Also whose Barid? i don't know of any Barid in GEARS, there is a Baird however? XD and Baird in gears isn't even considered "buff" compared to Cole or Tai...

Furthermore how could Cole possible get crushed by a drop pod in your "round 2" seriously are you that biased...

Cole "Oh im just going to stand here, i've seen the drop pods from miles off but it's got no chance of hitting me" smack?!?!

Also how do you simply push aside a chainsaw? "oh i'll just stick my hand on the side of the blade, even though its reved and he could pull the chainsaw infront of my hand?" O.o goodluck with that.... besides why use the chainsaw if the enemies busy getting out of a pod, when u could a. hammer of dawn it? or b. throw a nade?

and how did Anya appear on high ground in this hypothetical scenario? i'm pretty sure in the OP she wasn't included?

Finally how would the ODST's get inside high ground so easily? even via drop pods they'd be pretty easy to counter for COG's who are used to throwing grenades down holes the locust crawl out of repeatedly???

*BTW in future if you must post "rounds" please make sure to counter in the fact that COG's aren't stupid fools, charging around the battlefield reving chainsaws (use some logical analysis)* AND im pretty sure i know what im talking about...


Calm down, it's just a hypothetical situation. No need to go ape -blam!-.

  • 03.09.2011 2:11 PM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

The ODST would realize that the COG are superior up close. They would never allow them to get close enough to use there Chainsaw Bayonet and their sniper rifle's rate of fire is less than that of the UNSC variety. In short the ODST would keep them at a distance until they could get head shots w SOCOM, Sniper, and easy kills with SPLASER and Rockets.

  • 03.09.2011 2:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: dalcaeus
The ODST would realize that the COG are superior up close. They would never allow them to get close enough to use there Chainsaw Bayonet and their sniper rifle's rate of fire is less than that of the UNSC variety. In short the ODST would keep them at a distance until they could get head shots w SOCOM, Sniper, and easy kills with SPLASER and Rockets.


True, but I say the odds are even if you get rid of the HOD.

  • 03.09.2011 2:18 PM PDT