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Subject: Gears vs. ODST, who is the superior soldier?

This I do in honor of Pvt. Jenkins.

Yep I herd about that war. No one knows. The cuv. glassed the planet before one of them one.

[Edited on 03.09.2011 2:27 PM PST]

  • 03.09.2011 2:26 PM PDT

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: Ktan Dantaktee
How the battle goes:

Delta goes in acting like a bunch of badasses, tries to intimidate the ODST's, then Rookie pulls out his Silenced Magnum and shoots each COG in the head. Game Over.


The Rookie wouldn't stand a chance at pistol range against Marcus Fenix.
He'd reach for his pistol, maybe get a shot or two off at Marcus's chest, then get half his body blown off by a Gnasher shotgun blast.


Yes, because we all know Marcus's exposed head will be missed right?

The ODST pistol has a decent range, even then he'd just have to hit the head of each Cog to down them.

Then there is the fact the ODST's could flank and take them out with headshots from silenced pistols and SMGs, causing confusion in the other side.


From reading the Helljumper comic, its obvious the ODSTs are artists with accuracy, especial;y pistols. I think it was Dutch who pulled 6 headshots with a pistol on 6 Grunts before they even knew they were there.

ODST are brillian tacticians, capable of crippling entire armies without being seen (again: Helljumpers). They have superior technology, a nearly Spartan-like mind for warfare and strategy, and are far more nimble.

COGs seriously can't win this fight

(NOTE: No indirect support).


theres a gears of war comic too, and in it it shows how well developed the COG's strategies (especially Baird's use of strategy) is in combat.

They are constantly outnumbered.

Marcus is referred to as a machine when it comes to fighting, he is pretty much a legend among the entire COG including the civilians.

  • 03.09.2011 3:09 PM PDT

I breathe BR, not kidding homie.

im just going to be str8 up, im pretty sure delta squad could take odst's, or atleast teh squad we played as in h3:odst, hard choice tho, id have to say delta, but against spartans, they wouldnt have a chance

  • 03.09.2011 3:11 PM PDT
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We all know you're just trolling to compensate for something weak inside you.

Machineguns with Chainsaws or a peashooter with a silencer..

Hmm, tough choice.

  • 03.09.2011 3:18 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: Caaaarrrl

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Posted by: II R3D II
You know to be honest i've never seen the cogs charging a locust position in the game, when they have to defend an area, with a key strategical advantage... *this being higher ground*

Hence i think it's pretty clear who would win... ODST's are good no doubt, but the few poultry COGS that are still alive in GEARS are harder than coffin nails...

ODST's they're good, but they're built for special ops, not entrenched warfare and prolonged durations of combat, living in horrible conditions, and with little to no support being available due to nemesis and the fact that they don't have huge flying ships, with massive armaments...

TL:DR COGS are more adapt to the extremities of war... at its worst, whilst ODST's are built for special ops (quick in and out insertions)

No, ODSTs are pretty much Green Beret but with heavy armor, a drop pod instead of parachutes, nd a shoulder mounted laser. I mean, have you seen the Halo Barid? He's bigger than any COG. But this is Dare's squad, but if one sergent can take on a menace more powerful then the locust times a million, Dare's squad can take on steroid addicts and a stupid -blam!-.

You don't know what your talking about.



I'm pretty sure the locust are much more scarier than the covenant, enemies which deploy from the sky you can see coming, enemies coming up from below you is impossible to see coming. *disregarding numbers obviously, cos otherwise this thread is completely biased, due to scaling*

In response to what you said earlier "one sergeant take on a menace more powerful then the locust times a million" please explain what this menace is... and don't just say the covenant, because this sergeant your talking about never took on the whole covenant at one time did he???

Also whose Barid? i don't know of any Barid in GEARS, there is a Baird however? XD and Baird in gears isn't even considered "buff" compared to Cole or Tai...

Furthermore how could Cole possible get crushed by a drop pod in your "round 2" seriously are you that biased...

Cole "Oh im just going to stand here, i've seen the drop pods from miles off but it's got no chance of hitting me" smack?!?!

Also how do you simply push aside a chainsaw? "oh i'll just stick my hand on the side of the blade, even though its reved and he could pull the chainsaw infront of my hand?" O.o goodluck with that.... besides why use the chainsaw if the enemies busy getting out of a pod, when u could a. hammer of dawn it? or b. throw a nade?

and how did Anya appear on high ground in this hypothetical scenario? i'm pretty sure in the OP she wasn't included?

Finally how would the ODST's get inside high ground so easily? even via drop pods they'd be pretty easy to counter for COG's who are used to throwing grenades down holes the locust crawl out of repeatedly???

*BTW in future if you must post "rounds" please make sure to counter in the fact that COG's aren't stupid fools, charging around the battlefield reving chainsaws (use some logical analysis)* AND im pretty sure i know what im talking about...


Calm down, it's just a hypothetical situation. No need to go ape -blam!-.

You don't know who your talking about because I was talking about Michael Braid.

I'm pretty sure a locust in real life would stand no chance to...me or my old unit. They're mindless, Get a Kantus around and maix things up we jut blow it tell hardly noticing it instead of allowing it to scream at us.

So a squad of ODSTs, especially ones who fight actual soldiers, are gonna take on a few gung ho dip -blam!-s.

How can't you push it away? Hit from above, or just plain move instead of shaking your hands randomly and cut up.

Anya is included(Can you read).

Your dumb.

ODSTs are better.

No, I have nothing against GOW, one of my favorite games, but in all reality, they get wiped out.


  • 03.09.2011 3:21 PM PDT

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I think Gears could take down the ODST.

  • 03.09.2011 3:26 PM PDT

Locust aren't mindless...
They are at least as smart as average people at tactics and stuff like that, they set ambushes and traps all the time.

Think about this.
The COG are likely all stronger than the ODST's with the exception of Dutch, and Marcus and Cole are probably stronger than Dutch.

So How are they going to knock away their chainsaws if they aren't as strong? The saws are razor sharp and cut through pretty much anything and once they catch they keep going till they are all the way through.

  • 03.09.2011 3:29 PM PDT
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I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Locust aren't mindless...
They are at least as smart as average people at tactics and stuff like that, they set ambushes and traps all the time.

Think about this.
The COG are likely all stronger than the ODST's with the exception of Dutch, and Marcus and Cole are probably stronger than Dutch.

So How are they going to knock away their chainsaws if they aren't as strong? The saws are razor sharp and cut through pretty much anything and once they catch they keep going till they are all the way through.

No, Drones are always under orders. They are like tough versions of grunts. And what see in the games, a very powerful leader is always around. Drones are born to be Drones, but some, like RAAM are stronger and smarter and are born to be different. Only a few rank up...out a of a billion...so millions rank up.

ODSTSs will definally knock away a chainsaw, block it with armor, or dodge. I am a little skeptical on the armor though, considering Skorge raped a tank.

You don't have to be stronger to knock something to the side. I spar all th time and get my ass kicked, And I gurantee I'm stronger.

Pushing things is not being stronger.

I refuse to comment any longer, your a fanboy who is pretty smart, but a fanboy.

  • 03.09.2011 3:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

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It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.
Pretty sure odst's would win 90% of there fights with cog. Odst's are trained to drop in from space to Close quaters. That's the point of them.


Also, ODST's wear full armor. The cog squad decides not having helms + arm plating (I remember seeing a few with just the chest piece...) is cool. Sure in the games a headshot kills anyway(due to gameplay), but I'd imagine the helm protects some.

All the ODST squad has to do is draw pistols(Or just keep their normal weapons out) and aim for the head.

Edit: The ODST squad could also go in heavy with shrapnel causing weapons/grenades. Anyplace on the cog without armor would get shredded easily.

A few bullets in the head (Say, the SMG) from and ODST can take out almost anyone, especially Marcus.

The ODST can be trained to be silent assassins, thus the silenced weapons, and are highly tactical.


Canon helps us a lot here.

[Edited on 03.09.2011 3:59 PM PST]

  • 03.09.2011 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: Cowgoesmoo
Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: keeno 111

Posted by: Fly Boy 2113
It depends on the terrain. On a rubble filled close quarter ruins the big hunky gears of war guys would rip the little ODSTs limb from limb. How ever in an urban setting the ODSTs would destroy those big chunky brutes.
Pretty sure odst's would win 90% of there fights with cog. Odst's are trained to drop in from space to Close quaters. That's the point of them.


Also, ODST's wear full armor. The cog squad decides not having helms + arm plating (I remember seeing a few with just the chest piece...) is cool. Sure in the games a headshot kills anyway(due to gameplay), but I'd imagine the helm protects some.

All the ODST squad has to do is draw pistols(Or just keep their normal weapons out) and aim for the head.

Edit: The ODST squad could also go in heavy with shrapnel causing weapons/grenades. Anyplace on the cog without armor would get shredded easily.

A few bullets in the head (Say, the SMG) from and ODST can take out almost anyone, especially Marcus.

The ODST can be trained to be silent assassins, thus the silenced weapons, and are highly tactical.


Canon helps us a lot here.


I've read all the Halo books and the Gears books and nothing in the canon seems to determine that gears are less well trained than ODST.

It details in the first Gears book how Dom was trained as a commando in those very same stealth and assassination techniques.

  • 03.09.2011 4:29 PM PDT

Delta squad seems everything but stealthy from what I saw in Gears of War 2.

  • 03.09.2011 4:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
Delta squad seems everything but stealthy from what I saw in Gears of War 2.

Master Chief seems everything but stealthy from what I saw in Halo 1-3...

They aren't stealth games no time for stealth.
There actually is a bonus stealth mission in gears of war 2 all fronts DLC.

  • 03.09.2011 4:50 PM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

HOD at a glance tends to tip the scales. However, you have to poke your head out at some point to use it and it has a long time to acquire a target. That's a long time to be in the open with 5 proficient with scoped weapons aiming at you.

  • 03.09.2011 5:41 PM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...


Posted by: Caaaarrrl

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The ODST would realize that the COG are superior up close. They would never allow them to get close enough to use there Chainsaw Bayonet and their sniper rifle's rate of fire is less than that of the UNSC variety. In short the ODST would keep them at a distance until they could get head shots w SOCOM, Sniper, and easy kills with SPLASER and Rockets.


True, but I say the odds are even if you get rid of the HOD.


HOD looks like it tips the scale at a glance. However, it take time to acquire a target and odds are you have to be somewhat exposed to utilize it. Anytime in the open against 5 proficient marksmen with scoped weapons means a hole in the face.

  • 03.09.2011 5:44 PM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

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did you use the same reply twice for emphasis?

  • 03.09.2011 6:55 PM PDT

MY AIM IS TO FLY A SABER IN MATCHMAKEING

you know what blam you all lets take this to a higher authority. Lets take it to the guys at Deadliest Warrior.

  • 03.09.2011 11:10 PM PDT
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Whoa that's an insane idea.
I honestly can't decide.


me neither...

  • 03.10.2011 2:43 AM PDT

Posted by: CharlieOneThree
you know what blam you all lets take this to a higher authority. Lets take it to the guys at Deadliest Warrior.


they can simulate the battle 1000 times on a program designed by Slytherin Studios.

  • 03.10.2011 9:33 AM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.


Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
Posted by: CharlieOneThree
you know what blam you all lets take this to a higher authority. Lets take it to the guys at Deadliest Warrior.


they can simulate the battle 1000 times on a program designed by Slytherin Studios.


This battle would be awesome on Deadliest Warrior.

  • 03.10.2011 9:37 AM PDT

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Gears duh have you seen their muscles? They would absorb the odsts into their muscles and move on to the next sign of life.

  • 03.10.2011 9:52 AM PDT

"Be Silent and Swift..."

A simple 5 v. 5 with no support? In the words of our shipmaster:

"Then it is an even fight."

  • 03.10.2011 12:37 PM PDT

We'll bury our burdens in blood...

Posted by: Caaaarrrl
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did you use the same reply twice for emphasis?


No I'm just dumb and posted before I meant to

  • 03.10.2011 12:45 PM PDT

"The measure of a man is what he does with power"-Plato

ODST for the technology, Gears for the brute strength.

  • 03.10.2011 12:53 PM PDT

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ODST's will take at least 7/10. Better armor, different weapons, classes and persons per.

  • 03.10.2011 12:57 PM PDT

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ODSTs, they have tactics and better technology, Gears just rush in.

  • 03.10.2011 12:57 PM PDT