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Subject: Were there any canon changes in Reach that you liked?

Posted by: cB4d93
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you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

I'm going to be completely honest, when I heard "UNSC Cruiser Pillar of Autumn is awaiting your arrival," I got giddy as hell. Seeing my Favorite Halo character again after 10 years also helped me forgive the fact that the Pillar of Autumn was chilling on Reach for no apparent reason.

  • 03.10.2011 11:23 AM PDT
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idk if it's a canon change but i liked the introduciton of spartan 3's

  • 03.10.2011 12:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: Hyliannightmare
idk if it's a canon change but i liked the introduciton of spartan 3's

They were originally from the novel Ghosts of Onyx. However, the existence if Carter, Kat, and Emile are canon changes (they're all dead, Carter is too old.)

As for the OP, no, I didn't like any of the changes.

  • 03.10.2011 1:47 PM PDT

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at first my reaction was O.O sweet mother of god this is going to be epic


second thought was: what in the hell is it doing here?!?!?!

  • 03.10.2011 1:50 PM PDT

not one bit

  • 03.10.2011 2:46 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

First reaction to hearing Captain Keyes: "LORD YES, KEYES!"
Second reaction: "WAIT, WTF?!"
Third reaction: "WHO CARE'S IT'S MOTHER-FRIGGIN' KEYES!"
Final reaction: "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEE" ;

  • 03.10.2011 2:55 PM PDT


Posted by: Hyliannightmare
idk if it's a canon change but i liked the introduciton of spartan 3's


Agreed, really the only canon change I liked was the fact that Noble Team existed. Their characters were a great addition to the Haloverse, its just a shame they had to change so much more to make it work.

Don't get me wrong. I loved the campaign, but I liked it apart from the story. I love it but I don't consider it to be canon at all.

  • 03.10.2011 3:00 PM PDT

"Wort wort wort!"

No, especially the weapons.

  • 03.10.2011 3:02 PM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

Posted by: privet caboose
First reaction to hearing Captain Keyes: "LORD YES, KEYES!"
Second reaction: "WAIT, WTF?!"
Third reaction: "WHO CARE'S IT'S MOTHER-FRIGGIN' KEYES!"
Final reaction: "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEE" ;

"This is Captain Keyes of the Pillar of Autumn."

Brix were shat.

  • 03.10.2011 3:03 PM PDT
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I just play for fun. MLG can kiss my ass.

I liked the realistic time it took for Reach, the Fortress among the stars, to fall. That and Operation:Uppercut.

  • 03.10.2011 3:09 PM PDT
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It was cool, but with an afterthought, destroying canon and ending like this pretty sucked. Wouldn't it have been cool to return to space which obviously was underused?

  • 03.10.2011 3:13 PM PDT


Posted by: privet caboose
First reaction to hearing Captain Keyes: "LORD YES, KEYES!"
Second reaction: "WAIT, WTF?!"
Third reaction: "WHO CARE'S IT'S MOTHER-FRIGGIN' KEYES!"
Final reaction: "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEE" ;


this. Oh god this in everyway.

Why couldn't Bungie follow the Halo Bible--the one they wrote for the single purpose to keep the canon in check--and create a good, character story? It was instead an action movie.

  • 03.10.2011 3:16 PM PDT

Posted by: BK Burger Boy
I'm going to be completely honest, when I heard "UNSC Cruiser Pillar of Autumn is awaiting your arrival," I got giddy as hell. Seeing my Favorite Halo character again after 10 years also helped me forgive the fact that the Pillar of Autumn was chilling on Reach for no apparent reason.


Actually, The PoA apparently went to land on Reach when it finally Reached Reach, John went to take care of the station, came back, they landed to refuel and rearm.

  • 03.10.2011 3:54 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

I don't give a damn anymore.

  • 03.10.2011 3:56 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: privet caboose
First reaction to hearing Captain Keyes: "LORD YES, KEYES!"
Second reaction: "WAIT, WTF?!"
Third reaction: "WHO CARE'S IT'S MOTHER-FRIGGIN' KEYES!"
Final reaction: "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEE" ;


this. Oh god this in everyway.

Why couldn't Bungie follow the Halo Bible--the one they wrote for the single purpose to keep the canon in check--and create a good, character story? It was instead an action movie.


No proof they aren't following the halo bible(None of us have seen it, therefore we cannot say what the content is).

Anyway, I liked that they referenced that the best Spartan IIIs got equipped just like Spartan IIs, and assigned appropriate missions.

I like (Even though this wasn't a canon change) that they showed Spartan IIIs can do what Spartan IIs can do.

I really like the fact the military stronghold of the UNSC (Besides Earth) now lasts more then a matter of hours, ground and space battle.

  • 03.10.2011 4:01 PM PDT

There were no changes to the canon. Here is a time line for everything http://www.halopedian.com/Fall_Of_Reach. I kind of get tired of people thinking Reach just completely made The Fall of Reach non-canon because they can't look up the information. Also in the Legendary edition commentary Bungie even says that if you look up the dates that everything fits together. Anyways I did like that they had Keyes in the game.

[Edited on 03.10.2011 4:28 PM PST]

  • 03.10.2011 4:27 PM PDT

I like how the real battle was extended to 2 weeks vs a day. I dislike how bungie decided to not offer explanation how the other canon fit in with the new timeline, and stuff.

  • 03.10.2011 4:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Recovery 25
There were no changes to the canon. Here is a time line for everything http://www.halopedian.com/Fall_Of_Reach. I kind of get tired of people thinking Reach just completely made The Fall of Reach non-canon because they can't look up the information. Also in the Legendary edition commentary Bungie even says that if you look up the dates that everything fits together. Anyways I did like that they had Keyes in the game.


Not true.

Books state
Reach was attacked and fell in 1 day, August 30th, 2552

Games state
Reach was attacked in July 24th, and was finished off on August 30th, 2552.

This just makes NO sense.

  • 03.10.2011 4:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Recovery 25
There were no changes to the canon. Here is a time line for everything http://www.halopedian.com/Fall_Of_Reach. I kind of get tired of people thinking Reach just completely made The Fall of Reach non-canon because they can't look up the information. Also in the Legendary edition commentary Bungie even says that if you look up the dates that everything fits together. Anyways I did like that they had Keyes in the game.


Complete bull. In the book the unsc was unaware that reach was being attacked until the 30th. On reach we see a hefty portion of the planet already on fire by august 15th. Dot even said 60% of the fleet was en route to reach as of august 14th, whereas int he book they were not gathering to defend until the 30th, after fermion first detected the fleet. Do you think that the entire fleet EXCEPT the pillar of autumn and all the spartan-IIs were aware that reach was being attacked? I mean, they only constitute one of their best ships and the best ground force in the entire UNSC. They aren't important or anything. Jun also noted that "gauntlet, red and echo teams are assigned to civilian evac ops" on what...the 27th? 3 days before the events of the book. Bungie knows who red team is, they wouldnt name a different group of spartans red team, that group was the spartan-IIs that you say did not join the fight until the 30th because you don't actually think.

You are daft if you think that an entire fleet attacking reach went unnoticed until the 30th. You people say things line up but you don't use a single bit of brain power to actually think about it. Lining up does not equal makes sense.

The book was retconned. The events of the book happened on august 15th and were extended over a two week period, ending on the 30th. The events before august 15th were probably the UNSC trying to destroy the attacking forces as subtly as possible in the hopes that the covenant wouldn't summon an entire fleet. They'd rather fight off one ship than an entire fleet.

[Edited on 03.10.2011 4:46 PM PST]

  • 03.10.2011 4:38 PM PDT

This

  • 03.10.2011 4:39 PM PDT

No not really, I was expecting a few, but not a single one.

  • 03.10.2011 4:42 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

I like how the Battle of Reach was now a battle instead of the pitiful portrayal of a battle in The Fall of Reach.

  • 03.10.2011 4:44 PM PDT

PNATTMBTC

Any off-canonity (term?) were all forgiven once I heard Pete Stacker as Captain Keyes for longest time.

But I did not like that they changed his facial features... :(

  • 03.10.2011 4:44 PM PDT

Complete bull. In the book the unsc was unaware that reach was being attacked until the 30th. On reach we see a hefty portion of the planet already on fire by august 15th. Dot even said 60% of the fleet was en route to reach as of august 14th, whereas int he book they were not gathering to defend until the 30th, after fermion first detected the fleet. Do you think that the entire fleet EXCEPT the pillar of autumn and all the spartan-IIs were aware that reach was being attacked? I mean, they only constitute one of their best ships and the best ground force in the entire UNSC. They aren't important or anything. Emile also noted that "gauntlet, red and echo teams are assigned to civilian evac ops" on what...the 27th? 3 days before the events of the book. Bungie knows who red team is, they wouldnt name a different group of spartans red team, that group was the spartan-IIs that you say did not join the fight until the 30th because you don't actually think.

You are daft if you think that an entire fleet attacking reach went unnoticed until the 30th. You people say things line up but you don't use a single bit of brain power to actually think about it. Lining up does not equal makes sense.

The book was retconned. The events of the book happened on august 15th and were extended over a two week period, ending on the 30th. The events before august 15th were probably the UNSC trying to destroy the attacking forces as subtly as possible in the hopes that the covenant wouldn't summon an entire fleet. They'd rather fight off one ship than an entire fleet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWAaycIkpnU&feature=relate d From 46 seconds to about a minute twenty. Suck it you going to argue with Bungie.

[Edited on 03.10.2011 4:46 PM PST]

  • 03.10.2011 4:45 PM PDT