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Subject: Who would win a space battle, Star Wars or Halo?

There is no peace, there is anger
There is no fear, there is power
There is no death, there is immortality
There is no weakness, there is the Dark Side

I am the heart of the darkness
I know no fear
But rather I instill it in my enemies
I am the destroyer of worlds
I know the power of the Dark Side
I am the fire of hate

All the universe bows before me
I pledge myself to the darkness
For I have found true life
In the death of the light

Peace is a lie, there is only passion
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory
Through victory, my chains are broken
The Force shall free me.

The empire is run by the sith, the sith stop at nothing to gain power. With Super Star Destroyers on there side which can stealth and have shields which are no match to UNSC or Covenant weapons. The empire also has hundreds of thousands of troops and can keep making them on the planet Kamino. So the Covenant and UNSC are no match against a navy which they cant stop and can keep growing larger!

  • 03.10.2011 10:51 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

When will people learn....The Empire stopped using Clones shortly after they took possession of the Galaxy, The Kaminoans rebelled themselves against the Empire and after quenching the rebellion (thanks to the help of Boba Fett) The Empire started to use recruits and volunteers in the Stormtrooper legions.

The Emperor realized that it was too dangerous to keep making Clones as there was the possibility that they could turn on him, just like they did with the Jedi.

  • 03.10.2011 10:55 AM PDT

First off RKOSNAKE the clones did not turn on the Jedi! Palpatine used order 66! thusly the clones were made to server the Emperor so pay attention when u watch a film, u can actually learn something! and the empire did use Kamino as a cloning facility, some Kaminoans were feed up with the empire so they made a secret clone facility. this secret clone facility was the one destroyed the the 501st and Boba Fett, the facility that made the Grand Army was not destroyed! still intact is what that means. so before u start trolling forms u better learn facts instead of making up crap

  • 03.10.2011 11:04 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: gemma13
First off RKOSNAKE the clones did not turn on the Jedi! Palpatine used order 66! thusly the clones were made to server the Emperor so pay attention when u watch a film, u can actually learn something! and the empire did use Kamino as a cloning facility, some Kaminoans were feed up with the empire so they made a secret clone facility. this secret clone facility was the one destroyed the the 501st and Boba Fett, the facility that made the Grand Army was not destroyed! still intact is what that means. so before u start trolling forms u better learn facts instead of making up crap


Looks like a struck a nerve, and how am I trolling? It is true that Order 66 was used against the Jedi but if Order 66 could be implemented what stopped the Kaminoans from implementing a "new order" against the Emperor on the new clones?

  • 03.10.2011 11:10 AM PDT

Here is one thing, Sifo-Dyas was dead when the clones arrived and the Kaminoans knew he was a Jedi. if Sifo-Dyas would have told the Kaminoans to make order 66 they would have told the Jedi that they were going to be betrayed by the clones. who cares about business, if the Republic was paying for the clones and the Jedi protect the Republic then why would they not tell. if the protectors go down the ultimately the Republic will too, and does. and Palpatine being the Supreme Chancellor then he would see all the clones, and after they leave Kamino he could instill order 66 in them. but Palaptine is one of the greatest Sith so he could sabotage the cloning facility with all the power and knowledge he has. He could have payed off one Kaminoan or did it him self and none of the Kaminoans would know, hell he took over the Republic right under there noses so one little planet wouldn't be hard. and the Kaminoans which made the secret cloning facility were killed, so all the Kaminoans left dont have a problem with the Empire. So the Empire has unlimited forces and can use anyone to make clones from.

  • 03.10.2011 11:23 AM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Just a question, is your space key broken or something?

And what's the use of cloning if they pick mediocre persons to do so? The only reason the Clone Army was good was because the Genetic Sample was taken from Jango Fett, arguably the best Bounty Hunter in the galaxy.

They stopped making Jango clones and what happened? The Stormtroopers got beaten by Teddy Bears.

  • 03.10.2011 11:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mr Owen L
Halo would win as it has the covenant on it's side.

Firstly Humans: they may not have the most powerful ships but they can deal out damage and take a fair bit as well they just lack shielding, Humans also have some brilliant commanders such as Cole and Keyes. They also have stealth ship ( Prowlers ) as far as I know star wars doesn't have any large scale stealth ships. MAC rounds would shred any unshielded ship and the veriety of nuclear Weapons ranging from Shivas to the massive NOVA would take down shields.

The covenant are a far supperior force to the UNSC. Their ships have shields, they have plasma weaponry, Laser weaponry, can board and take ships, have skilled commanders, much better ship to ship fighters than Humans. They have mastered slipspace travel so can travel Lightyears in just a few hours or days.

A battle between a Covenant carrier group supported by a UNSC battlegroup Vs. a Star destroyer battle group would be an interesting battle to observe.

I could also Include the tech of The forerunners/ Pre halo activation Humans and Prophets, Precursors ect.

  • 03.10.2011 11:46 AM PDT

Jango Fett was a great bounty hunter, and the people they took the Gentice Template from were not mediocre by the slightest. Sa Cuis was a very talented and experienced duelist, and he was a human Dark Jedi.General Veers was also another to be cloned, he was highly intelligent, skillful and very dangerous. And Barron Soontir Fel was considered the best star fighter pilot in the galaxy.

And they may have got beaten by Ewoks, a whole village, and a Jedi and several rebel troopers. Oh and the entire Rebel Alliance. The Covenant got beat by one spartan, he had help but not much.

So my money is on the Empire who had the entire opposing army against them, rather one being.

  • 03.10.2011 11:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: gemma13
Jango Fett was a great bounty hunter, and the people they took the Gentice Template from were not mediocre by the slightest. Sa Cuis was a very talented and experienced duelist, and he was a human Dark Jedi.General Veers was also another to be cloned, he was highly intelligent, skillful and very dangerous. And Barron Soontir Fel was considered the best star fighter pilot in the galaxy.

And they may have got beaten by Ewoks, a whole village, and a Jedi and several rebel troopers. Oh and the entire Rebel Alliance. The Covenant got beat by one spartan, he had help but not much.

So my money is on the Empire who had the entire opposing army against them, rather one being.


John wasn't the only human causing severe damage to the Covenant; he was the lucky loner to be on the wrong spot at the right time to stop what happened.

  • 03.10.2011 11:56 AM PDT

Then who else did damage and destroyed anything besides master chief???

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  • 03.10.2011 12:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: SopranoSage3
Then who else did damage and destroyed anything besides master chief???


Keyes (both), Cole, Sgt. Johnson, other Spartan tams, fleets of ships, Flood, etc.

  • 03.10.2011 12:09 PM PDT

The only ones that u listed there that actually did lots of damage is the flood, the spartan TEAMS(thats how u spell) got destroyed, Sgt. Johnson did nothing (he was with chief!), and who is Cole exactly nothing!

troll troll troll Halo wins troll troll troll

  • 03.10.2011 12:17 PM PDT

all u stupid halo fan boys!! star wars would crush halo!! anytime any where.

u stupid fan boys are just trolling up the forms now just admit that this little fantasy that u guys have, ur not a spartan ur a human who has mental problems, star wars is 2 galaxy as Recovery 25 has stated and halo is just the Orion quadrant in our galaxy. thats only 5 planets!

wow 5 planets with inferior life to SW, would stand no chance. Star Wars has the best of the best and halo only has mediocre heros.

end of discussion!

  • 03.10.2011 12:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: SopranoSage3
The only ones that u listed there that actually did lots of damage is the flood, the spartan TEAMS(thats how u spell) got destroyed, Sgt. Johnson did nothing (he was with chief!), and who is Cole exactly nothing!

troll troll troll Halo wins troll troll troll


I fell for his -blam!- bait...

Cole did exactly this: wiped out an entire Covenant armada/fleet. He'd brought his and only around 1/3 of it lived compared to all of the dead Covvies. Sgt. Johnson and his squad annihilated around 30,000 Covenant idiots and Capt. Keyes took out one whole fleet (or much of it) during his famous 'Keyes Loop'. The Flood reigned damn near supreme in annihilation, chap.

Also, learn to spell and don't make yourself an obvious troll.

Why not go for it?

  • 03.10.2011 12:40 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: PaneledSquash72
all u stupid halo fan boys!! star wars would crush halo!! anytime any where.

u stupid fan boys are just trolling up the forms now just admit that this little fantasy that u guys have, ur not a spartan ur a human who has mental problems, star wars is 2 galaxy as Recovery 25 has stated and halo is just the Orion quadrant in our galaxy. thats only 5 planets!

wow 5 planets with inferior life to SW, would stand no chance. Star Wars has the best of the best and halo only has mediocre heros.

end of discussion!


Did your mom dropped you on your head when you were a baby?

Halo takes place in the Milky Way Galaxy, aka our Galaxy.

The Milky Way galaxy, commonly referred to as just the Milky Way, or sometimes simply as the Galaxy, is the home galaxy of the Solar System, and of Earth. It is a barred spiral galaxy that contains 100-400 billion stars and an estimated 50 billion planets, 500 million of which could be located in the habitable zone of their parent star.

I think you missed the Planet count by a little 49,999,999,995 planets.

[Edited on 03.10.2011 1:29 PM PST]

  • 03.10.2011 1:28 PM PDT


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Posted by: Schulzy3
Red Alert is a successful troll, in being unsuccessful.

Roberto jh laid out some basic ground rules, excluding all superweapons from both sides (Forerunner and Precursor were on that list, since they are "Iwin" factions).

It was UNSC/Covenant vs Empire. Then, someone came in, ignored all posts, said, "Precursor > all" and ended the discussion that could have gone ssomewhere.

So can we please go back to UNSC/Covenant vs Empire, no superweapons involved on either side?

SW vs HALO

Halo wins because of Flood, Forerunners and Precursors.
Star Wars fans deem it unfair for Halo to win so they exclude the best of Halo.

That's like booting the guy in the lead in a custom game
because he's so good.


What happened to that last post of yours 2 pages ago? You lied to yourself, how sad.

Empire has more than enough power to deal with the Forerunner. Forerunner weapons, appear to be little more than homing energy blades, slow to fire and charge, and not terribly effective against a large number of troops.

I also see Forerunner tactics involving Infantry in small numbers, with no vehicle or close air support, they seem to follow the tactic of bombardment + mop up, essentially, WW1 tactics that didn't even work at the time.

"After exhausting every tactical strategy..."
If Forerunner can't take down Flood, that is simply sad.

Forerunner firepower is tricky to gauge, they were able to cut through Flood creatures without much more ease than Covenant or UNSC. Their ships firing on the planet in Halo Legends puts their firepower per shot, per combined ship fleet at roughly, MAYBE a single turbolaser level. But the Empire's ships can fire each of their many, many guns with 1-2 seconds in between shots, rather than 5-10 for their entire ship.

The flood? These kinds of parasitic creatures aren't unheard of to the Empire, they've faced, defeated, and have even created their own. The Empire would have an understanding of how the flood works based on their experiences with similar creatures and the Yuuzhan Vong, and would have little trouble with them as they know that to eliminate them you have to react fast.

Precursors cannot be brought into this fight. NOTHING is known on them aside from the prisoners word. Once book 2 comes out and information is told on them, then you can mention them. Besides, If Empire can beat Forerunner fairly easy, I'm sure they would be able to handle Precursors.

We've already established what beats what, and the Forerunners could easily wipe the floor with the Empire.

I do not see more room for reasonable discussion.


I laugh, explain yourself, you have no proof, as the Empire has all the power and information you want. Go ahead, try to beat me, you can't. Therefore you lose, go cry some more.

I concede, Recovery, I hope you can match them in this fight, I have to go to work.


1) Forerunner military likely had as many starships and heavy combat support drones as the CIS had droids

2) The Forerunners' starfighters and artillery were several times more powerful then a Covenant heavy ship, capable of pulling entire continents off of planets with their weapons and turning them upside down, crushing entire cities and civilizations in one fell swoop.

3) They could travel between universes.

4) Could bring their minds into a heightened state of consciousness called the Domain.

5) Had hundreds of super-AIs that dwarfed Cortana, or were similar too her, planning strategies with the brighest Forerunner minds in the Eccumene

6) Which spanned more then 3 million worlds, more planets then the Empire had ships.

7) The the hell told you the Forerunner weapons were long to charge? They lanced out and destroyed a Halo ring in a few shots.

Want proof? Read Cryptum.

Go cry some more.

I hate fanboys.

[Edited on 03.10.2011 1:58 PM PST]

  • 03.10.2011 1:56 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Just a question, is your space key broken or something?

And what's the use of cloning if they pick mediocre persons to do so? The only reason the Clone Army was good was because the Genetic Sample was taken from Jango Fett, arguably the best Bounty Hunter in the galaxy.

They stopped making Jango clones and what happened? The Stormtroopers got beaten by Teddy Bears.


The clones after that were taken from a wide variety of people and were cloned on many different planet so they didn't have the connection that all the Jango clones had growing up together. Also the Jango clones had to start being cloned from the dna of clones instead of the original Jango's dna that is why they sucked at aiming in the movies.

  • 03.10.2011 2:22 PM PDT


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Posted by: Recovery 25
I am not going to acknowledge any post from the halo side about the forerunners or precursors

You are just afraid to loose.


I'll just say this, if they wanted to one-side it, they would remove Precursors, forerunners, and the other halo super weapons but leave in Star Wars super weapons.

They did not, so by the same sense we could say you are afraid to lose as you keep shoving those two groups back in halo-side.

no, because they know sw is better if we cant use precursors and forerunners.
Therefore they dont let us use them because they are afraid to lose.

So you pretty much just admitted that you know SW would win and your afraid to lose so you add the forerunners and precursors.

  • 03.10.2011 2:35 PM PDT

1) Forerunner military likely had as many starships and heavy combat support drones as the CIS had droids

2) The Forerunners' starfighters and artillery were several times more powerful then a Covenant heavy ship, capable of pulling entire continents off of planets with their weapons and turning them upside down, crushing entire cities and civilizations in one fell swoop.

3) They could travel between universes.

4) Could bring their minds into a heightened state of consciousness called the Domain.

5) Had hundreds of super-AIs that dwarfed Cortana, or were similar too her, planning strategies with the brighest Forerunner minds in the Eccumene

6) Which spanned more then 3 million worlds, more planets then the Empire had ships.

7) The the hell told you the Forerunner weapons were long to charge? They lanced out and destroyed a Halo ring in a few shots.

Want proof? Read Cryptum.

Go cry some more.

I hate fanboys.


So you hate yourself.

  • 03.10.2011 2:38 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.


Posted by: Recovery 25

Posted by: red alert447

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: red alert447



Posted by: Recovery 25
I am not going to acknowledge any post from the halo side about the forerunners or precursors

You are just afraid to loose.


I'll just say this, if they wanted to one-side it, they would remove Precursors, forerunners, and the other halo super weapons but leave in Star Wars super weapons.

They did not, so by the same sense we could say you are afraid to lose as you keep shoving those two groups back in halo-side.

no, because they know sw is better if we cant use precursors and forerunners.
Therefore they dont let us use them because they are afraid to lose.

So you pretty much just admitted that you know SW would win and your afraid to lose so you add the forerunners and precursors.

343 did.

  • 03.10.2011 2:44 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Why do star wars fan think precursors and Forerunners aren't part of the Halo verse.You guys act as if those 2 factions aren't Halo related.

It's easy to fight Halo in it's current state when there are only two little factions.

It's called Halo current state.But this match is Halo universe.

  • 03.10.2011 2:53 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Wanna join vs debates where you can create your own battles people?
Join this:
http://forums.spacebattles.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4


Or this:

http://www.factpile.com/


And stop making new vs threads here.

  • 03.10.2011 2:58 PM PDT


Posted by: Recovery 25
1) Forerunner military likely had as many starships and heavy combat support drones as the CIS had droids

2) The Forerunners' starfighters and artillery were several times more powerful then a Covenant heavy ship, capable of pulling entire continents off of planets with their weapons and turning them upside down, crushing entire cities and civilizations in one fell swoop.

3) They could travel between universes.

4) Could bring their minds into a heightened state of consciousness called the Domain.

5) Had hundreds of super-AIs that dwarfed Cortana, or were similar too her, planning strategies with the brighest Forerunner minds in the Eccumene

6) Which spanned more then 3 million worlds, more planets then the Empire had ships.

7) The the hell told you the Forerunner weapons were long to charge? They lanced out and destroyed a Halo ring in a few shots.

Want proof? Read Cryptum.

Go cry some more.

I hate fanboys.


So you hate yourself.


If I was a fanboy:

1) I would've liked Reach.

2) I'd say that the UNSC alone could beat the Galactic Empire.

3) I'd say the Covenant could beat the Rakatans.

And so on.

I'm not a blind fanboy, and I do defend Halo because I like it more. However, if there is a legitimate reason why another universe would beat Halo, I'd accept that. As it stands, in this case, the presentations of the movies supercede everything in the Wars universe, thus knocking down the Empire to a UNSC/Covenant level.

I lost most of my respect for Wars after the prequels, and still even I know this, yet the Wars fans don't seem to understand their own canon policy.

  • 03.10.2011 3:06 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II
Why do star wars fan think precursors and Forerunners aren't part of the Halo verse.You guys act as if those 2 factions aren't Halo related.

It's easy to fight Halo in it's current state when there are only two little factions.

It's called Halo current state.But this match is Halo universe.


We don't act like they don't exist we are trying to make it an even fight. If we wanted to easily win would would say Empire vs. post human/forerunner war humans. Yeah that would be genocide.

  • 03.10.2011 3:07 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: Recovery 25

Posted by: hotshot revan II
Why do star wars fan think precursors and Forerunners aren't part of the Halo verse.You guys act as if those 2 factions aren't Halo related.

It's easy to fight Halo in it's current state when there are only two little factions.

It's called Halo current state.But this match is Halo universe.


We don't act like they don't exist we are trying to make it an even fight. If we wanted to easily win would would say Empire vs. post human/forerunner war humans. Yeah that would be genocide.


But then it is just covie and UNSC vs numerous sw factions.
Unless we only use faction vs faction.

But thise thread needs to die.

  • 03.10.2011 3:08 PM PDT