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Subject: Who would win a space battle, Star Wars or Halo?

One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.

  • 03.04.2011 5:37 PM PDT

Never say you're bored. Never say you're satisfied with the world. Never stop doubting or questioning things. Always wonder. Always think. But always take time to drop your guard, you don't have to be smart all the time.


Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?

  • 03.04.2011 5:40 PM PDT

Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?


Don't see what...?

  • 03.04.2011 5:41 PM PDT

Technically, Halo Rings fit into this category.

  • 03.04.2011 5:41 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?


Don't see what...?
That the actual blasts themselves do not equate to the energy they are said to have?

  • 03.04.2011 5:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?


Don't see what...?
That the actual blasts themselves do not equate to the energy they are said to have?


Technically they do, armor in Star Wars is far superior to the Halo Titanium-A armor, don't get me technical here, I can give you a nice post of about 10,000 characters on all this.

  • 03.04.2011 5:44 PM PDT

Never say you're bored. Never say you're satisfied with the world. Never stop doubting or questioning things. Always wonder. Always think. But always take time to drop your guard, you don't have to be smart all the time.


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?


Don't see what...?
That the actual blasts themselves do not equate to the energy they are said to have?


Technically they do, armor in Star Wars is far superior to the Halo Titanium-A armor, don't get me technical here, I can give you a nice post of about 10,000 characters on all this.


Never said anything about human technology.

  • 03.04.2011 5:46 PM PDT

Posted by: wildnuke

Never said anything about human technology.


I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.

An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.

While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.

Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.

This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.

put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

The Acclamator's turbolasers carry 200 gigatons each, and can fire roughly 30-60 shots a minute, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force second at peak efficiency, so it would take 2 Cairo stations to hit it simultaneously in order to penetrate, if the shots are so much as a split-second apart the Acclamator will withstand it but it's shields will feel the strain.

Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.

The MAC gun on UNSC ships is generally said to be equivalent to 1.17 teratons of tnt, or 1.17% the impact force of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. the Pillar of autumn can fire 3 slugs on one charge, the time it takes to charge is unknown but these 3 shots can down the shields of nearly any covenant ship.

It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.

ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.

If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.

Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...

Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

Checkmate my friend.

[Edited on 03.04.2011 6:02 PM PST]

  • 03.04.2011 5:57 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
One Empire destroyer can pretty much take on about 5 Super Carriers, yes you heard me, Super Carriers, which are the biggest Covenant ships in the galaxy, bigger than the super star destroyer in Return of the Jedi. The Empire simply has far better weaponry, 1 turbo-laser has the equal velocity of a super MAC canon 6 times over, add to the fact that the destroyer has 8 of them!

Covenant is doomed, easy.



Since movie cannon overides all of SW technology.... how come we don't see it?


Don't see what...?
That the actual blasts themselves do not equate to the energy they are said to have?


Technically they do, armor in Star Wars is far superior to the Halo Titanium-A armor, don't get me technical here, I can give you a nice post of about 10,000 characters on all this.

Then why did a single A Wing destroy the bridge of the Executer if it was capable of this?

The Snow Speeders' primary weapon is said to have around 1/10 the power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima. Even if the AT-AT was able to withstood it, there would still have been an outward blast that's flame would have been larger than the AT-AT itself.

[Edited on 03.04.2011 6:06 PM PST]

  • 03.04.2011 6:00 PM PDT

Never say you're bored. Never say you're satisfied with the world. Never stop doubting or questioning things. Always wonder. Always think. But always take time to drop your guard, you don't have to be smart all the time.


Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Never said anything about human technology.


I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.

An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.

While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.

Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.

This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.

put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.

It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.

ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.

If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.

Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...

Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

Checkmate my friend.


For you unfortunatly
All the haloverse needs is one precursor warship and you and your entire fleets are through.

  • 03.04.2011 6:02 PM PDT

@accordingto343

Your one stop shop for all of 343's fabulous errors and ridiculous notions in the Halo lore.

Posted by: wildnuke
All the haloverse needs is one precursor warship and you and your entire fleets are through.

Which we have not seen in use ever.

  • 03.04.2011 6:11 PM PDT

Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Never said anything about human technology.


I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.

An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.

While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.

Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.

This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.

put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.

It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.

ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.

If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.

Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...

Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

Checkmate my friend.


For you unfortunatly
All the haloverse needs is one precursor warship and you and your entire fleets are through.


I laughed, do you have any information this ship? Covenant can easily take down Forerunner, and you say they can't take down Precursor's?

Just to add. The Flood parasitic creatures aren't unheard of to the Empire, they've faced, defeated, and have even created their own. The Empire would have an understanding of how the flood works based on their experiences with similar creatures and the Yuuzhan Vong, and would have little trouble with them as they know that to eliminate them you have to react fast.

Let me get down to a Empire, Forerunner battle.

Forerunner firepower is tricky to gauge, they were able to cut through Flood creatures without much more ease than Covenant or UNSC. Their ships firing on the planets puts their firepower per shot, per combined ship fleet at roughly, MAYBE a single turbolaser level. But the Empire's ships can fire each of their many, many guns with 1-2 seconds in between shots, rather than 5-10 for their entire ship.

Not much is known until the rest of the Forerunner Saga is told, although in Numbers, the Empire easily outnumbers the Forerunner, Covenant, Humanity, and the Precursors.

The number of Clones is very debatable.

Which during the Clone Wars alone they had approximately 10 quadrillion clones. (The ICS puts the Droid army in the quintillions and count dooku says the droids outnumber the clones by 100 to 1) the Stormtroopers outnumber the clones. The old 3,000,000 clone figure of Karen Traviss was retconned long ago, as was her entire take on Mandalorian culture, very little of her work is still canon due to her misconduct.

What they mean by "unit" is completely unknown, it could be anything from a single clone to a group of cloning facilities like Tipoca city of unknown size, from 5-500 Tipoca cities, and not just limited to Kamino itself, but off world cloning facilities as well.

All we know is the size of the droid army and the relative size of the clone army to it, which gives us tens of quadrillions.

To put that into perspective, the Clones alone outnumber the covenant's entire army by over 500,000 to 1, there are also the SD-10 War droids and the XR-85 Tank Droids, both used by the empire and both are very,very lethal.

Depending on the Era of the Empire we are using they might also use Dark Troopers, a group of Phase II Dark Troopers would ruin the Elites day pretty quick, especially if they were Mohc Pattern (the original Dark Forces type with the Assault cannons), but Veers Pattern (the Forces of Corruption ones) are pretty deadly too, what with that E-Web of theirs, but they are much slower than the Mohc Pattern.

Check Mate yet again, Just for your information, I added more details in my past two posts so you find a better understanding of my facts.

[Edited on 03.04.2011 6:16 PM PST]

  • 03.04.2011 6:12 PM PDT
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Cowboy up

I love my halo, but star wars is king in sci-fi. I was gonna come to the defense of star wars seeing as how everyone overlooked that fact and understandably so since this is a bungie forum. But I see this guy has handled it.

Let's not get it twisted here though, in a space battle the navies of the star wars galaxy could fight with ion weapons only and win just by firing first and disabling their opposition. Plasma is slow, the unsc is slow to take their shots. They would be overwhelmed by the faster more armored and armed ships. You think of the covenent and say hey they got numbers and tech so they got it when backed by the unsc. No, the star wars galaxy is filled with alien species that got tech (Vong, Calamarians, nemodians, etc.)

I don't know how we can toss in the forerunners or precursors in this when their isn't anything they can do at the time of the unsc and covenent point of existence.

  • 03.04.2011 11:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tury07
I love my halo, but star wars is king in sci-fi. I was gonna come to the defense of star wars seeing as how everyone overlooked that fact and understandably so since this is a bungie forum. But I see this guy has handled it.

Let's not get it twisted here though, in a space battle the navies of the star wars galaxy could fight with ion weapons only and win just by firing first and disabling their opposition. Plasma is slow, the unsc is slow to take their shots. They would be overwhelmed by the faster more armored and armed ships. You think of the covenent and say hey they got numbers and tech so they got it when backed by the unsc. No, the star wars galaxy is filled with alien species that got tech (Vong, Calamarians, nemodians, etc.)

I don't know how we can toss in the forerunners or precursors in this when their isn't anything they can do at the time of the unsc and covenent point of existence.


I don't think they put an era in particular, more like, an all out war between all of the factions, or so I believe.

  • 03.05.2011 12:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Tury07
I love my halo, but star wars is king in sci-fi. I was gonna come to the defense of star wars seeing as how everyone overlooked that fact and understandably so since this is a bungie forum. But I see this guy has handled it.

Let's not get it twisted here though, in a space battle the navies of the star wars galaxy could fight with ion weapons only and win just by firing first and disabling their opposition. Plasma is slow, the unsc is slow to take their shots. They would be overwhelmed by the faster more armored and armed ships. You think of the covenent and say hey they got numbers and tech so they got it when backed by the unsc. No, the star wars galaxy is filled with alien species that got tech (Vong, Calamarians, nemodians, etc.)

I don't know how we can toss in the forerunners or precursors in this when their isn't anything they can do at the time of the unsc and covenent point of existence.


By this "guy" did you mean me?

Oh and everyone.

Laser > Plasma

  • 03.05.2011 12:26 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact



Wait a minute when did you see the covenant beating the forerunners unless you talk about the weak basic sentinels.
Well it seems you are unaware off Cryptum as it is said there that Precursor material in indestructible to anything but neural weapons(Halo array)

BS.The empire never encounytered an enemy like that.The vong aren't like that.
-They have the gravemind,a near omniscient being who can coordinate any flood offensive at entire distances with telepathy.
Proof:

Also one thing,if there is a gravemind then he will be the one who controls all flood forms:

They have the flood supercell,it's very adaptable and they can arrange it to mimic any organ they might need it.The flood face a large mechanical monster?Supercell adapts and creates a counter for it.

There is a reason why even sentinels were ineffective.

The flood ability to use your tech against you.
-Aborbing your knowledge,an exemple they infect palpatine and bam they know every imperial location via palpatines memorys.



What the hell are you smoking?You talk about the forerunners weakest units in the games that aren't even used in warfare except defend the installation.

Forerunner have ground infatry with the following abilitys:
-They can be dropped from orbit and fly into outer space
-They have continent busting weapons,they can even destroy the cryst and overturn it
-They are pwoerful enough to rip entire starships apart with strenght alone

I would love to give some excerpts from the books to prove this,but the reason why i can't,well it's a long story.

As for the Forerunner navy weaponry.A single shot from a Forerunner ship could destroy a Halo ring(30000 km) with a single shot.

They have planet breakers,and it's name says enough.

The Forerunner alone outnumbered the entire star wars galaxy with a single fleet:



A single fleet numbered in trillions.Try beat that number.

Can you give me a source on the quadrillions of clones.That's BS because even the larger imperial army only has numbers in trillions.

Star wars will lose ground battles,badly.Unless you can prove me that star wars has far stronger units then a Forerunner war sphinx,as i already explained it's abilitys above.

  • 03.05.2011 1:31 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Damn i couldn't put quotes into my post.

So here are some sources:

http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/intel/related/complex/bestiarum/31 107dae-cba1-43cf-b107-735035c848ff

For some cryptum quotes:

http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthread.php?t=184478




[Edited on 03.05.2011 1:33 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 1:33 AM PDT

Flood's and Universe's Warhammer 40k fanatic and the one who knows much about it.

I also like House Stark and winter, hurr.

40k.

We have knowledge of your universes every technological achievement. We can create storms that can cover lightyears in lenght space. We have quadrillions ships which most strongest are able to defeat yours.

Sorry, but I had to say that. Felt so good.

But in the real topic, id say star wars if it were only flood, UNSC, covenant and halos. If precs and fors would come in, then halo.

  • 03.05.2011 1:49 AM PDT

universe vs universe would be halo
because of the old prophet and human empires (witch are pretty mutch clones of the rupublic and empire in my eyes)... the forunners at full power (OMG) and the prucusors with materials that can only be destroyed with nueral attacks. (OMGBBQ)

But if it was the main factions from the universes...star wars.
Halo,covy and forunner sentinals are going to get raped by multple empires....

  • 03.05.2011 2:12 AM PDT

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  • 03.05.2011 2:17 AM PDT

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March 3, 2553


Posted by: Stewie2552
Halo

Covenant

/thread
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Basically this.

Except i would say that they would have an upper hand in ship to -blam!- combat. X-wings and stuff would dominate Seraphs and longswords. But otherwise, MAC round and plasma would obliterate star wars ships.

  • 03.05.2011 2:36 AM PDT

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[quote]Posted by: Tury07
I love my halo, but star wars is king in sci-fi.

No.
there are far more universes with supreme technology. (40K)

The king is DW hands down

@mojeda 101
Try reading Cryptum
Precursors exist outside the universe of space.
They are a pure mind
Precursor tech, is cycled down millions of years.
Once again... Read Cryptum.

[Edited on 03.05.2011 3:12 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 3:05 AM PDT

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Firstly, this is the best nerd fight I've ever seen.

Secondly, I don't know any of the fictional science behind it, but judging from the two sources of indisputable canon (the SW films and the Halo games) the capital ships in Star Wars look pretty weak compared to Covenant and UNSC warships. You can't honestly tell me it looks like a Star Destroyer or Mon Cal cruiser would stand up to a super MAC round of carrier energy projector.

Thirdly, this thread reminds me of this video.. Watch it, and remember - as you sit inside arguing about who would win between the Imperials and the Covenant, a hot girl may be passing you by.

  • 03.05.2011 5:00 AM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Never said anything about human technology.


I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.

An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.

While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.

Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.

This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.

put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.

It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.

ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.

If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.

Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...

Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

Checkmate my friend.


For you unfortunatly
All the haloverse needs is one precursor warship and you and your entire fleets are through.


I laughed, do you have any information this ship? Covenant can easily take down Forerunner, and you say they can't take down Precursor's?

.

Wtf are you high???
GTFO AND LEARN SOME FACTS....

  • 03.05.2011 5:30 AM PDT