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Subject: Who would win a space battle, Star Wars or Halo?

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Posted by: egore11
Considering the UNSC can manipulate worm holes and toss Novas in the UNSC or Covenant don't have to worry about fighting up close.

And in a space battle, it seems UNSC ships move much faster than SW ships while not in FTL or Slipspace.

The covenant can just shoot once and wipe out any ship in the Republic/Imperial fleet.

And Remember this, we can just contact Monitors on other Halos and have them combat your droids. The sentinels have unlimited numbers like the droids, but much better weaponry and are actually smart. They can also move their bases directly over Droid bases, and have millions of sentinels take care of all the Droids, and easily Jedi considering they are a never ending force.

You bring the flood in, they wipe out every soldier on the battlefield. They can take care of much more advanced races.

A single mac round is gonna tear threw any Star Wars ship, so say goodbye to the Death Star(s). And if we can't get them close enough, we send a single pelican, it lands, we either plant a bomb or AI, either taking over the Death Star or blowing it to hell, taking the fleet with it.

And if we are having the entire SW universe, we get the entire Halo universe. Percussors, Forerunners, Hundreds of Spartans, a unified jiralhanae, Sangheili fleets, hundreds if not thousands of orbital mac platforms.

Most people are thinking of the Halo universe of a beat up galaxy, but in all reality we have the most powerful universe ever made.


This guy has propably never even seen the Star Wars movies, he has never played a single Star Wars game and he has never read a single novel.

If the MAC rounds cant even destroy covenant shield technology, they surely cant even come close to taking down shields from a far more advanced Star Wars star destroyer, yet alone rip through its durasteel hull.

I'm still supporting Halo on winning, but this guy just has no clue what he is talking about.

  • 03.05.2011 11:22 AM PDT

What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.

  • 03.05.2011 11:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: egore11
Considering the UNSC can manipulate worm holes and toss Novas in the UNSC or Covenant don't have to worry about fighting up close.

And in a space battle, it seems UNSC ships move much faster than SW ships while not in FTL or Slipspace.

The covenant can just shoot once and wipe out any ship in the Republic/Imperial fleet.

And Remember this, we can just contact Monitors on other Halos and have them combat your droids. The sentinels have unlimited numbers like the droids, but much better weaponry and are actually smart. They can also move their bases directly over Droid bases, and have millions of sentinels take care of all the Droids, and easily Jedi considering they are a never ending force.

You bring the flood in, they wipe out every soldier on the battlefield. They can take care of much more advanced races.

A single mac round is gonna tear threw any Star Wars ship, so say goodbye to the Death Star(s). And if we can't get them close enough, we send a single pelican, it lands, we either plant a bomb or AI, either taking over the Death Star or blowing it to hell, taking the fleet with it.

And if we are having the entire SW universe, we get the entire Halo universe. Percussors, Forerunners, Hundreds of Spartans, a unified jiralhanae, Sangheili fleets, hundreds if not thousands of orbital mac platforms.

Most people are thinking of the Halo universe of a beat up galaxy, but in all reality we have the most powerful universe ever made.


This guy has propably never even seen the Star Wars movies, he has never played a single Star Wars game and he has never read a single novel.

If the MAC rounds cant even destroy covenant shield technology, they surely cant even come close to taking down shields from a far more advanced Star Wars star destroyer, yet alone rip through its durasteel hull.

I'm still supporting Halo on winning, but this guy just has no clue what he is talking about.

I don't know what I'm talking, I watched the movies inlt to see cool battles. I even warched the TV series ad thought about ending it all.

Still, we can just pound them with Mac rounds or the percusors can think them into oblivion.

  • 03.05.2011 11:28 AM PDT


Posted by: Spage
So, to win the Star Wars vs Halo scenario...Halo has to bring in ancient unthinkable technology?


Ok then. Meet Centerpoint station. Its weapon is a tractor beam. It can wipe out starfleets across the galaxy, no movement required. If that doesn't work...it can throw a sun at you. Yeah good luck vs a sun.

Or we can work with the The Sun Crusher which is another over powered Star Wars space vehicle. Its a little gnat of a ship that is virtually indestructible to begin with, but then it can fly into suns anyway. Woo for instantly destroying any ship with its torpedoes.

Here's a Star Forge for all the infinite forces needed. Sure the Forrunners have a lot, and have indestructible ships, but the Starforge has infinite ships. Infinite ships eventually win.

For arguments sake....we get Thrawn. It is debatable how useful he is, but the Halo universe doesn't have a character who is equal, leaving it up to probable assumption that Star Wars then gets the better tactics as well.


As an aside...Halo's don't work in this scenario, because Halos kill everything. There is no winner.


The point is... You can actually throw a sun at the precusors and it will do nothing. There material can only be damaged by Halo ring's and other neural weapons (star wars, has no nueral weapons) . You cant beat something... if you cant hurt it!

[Edited on 03.05.2011 11:37 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 11:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.

If it's Solely 'modern' Universe vs. Universe.
The UNSC / Covenant would win, as they have slipspace technology. As mentioned multiple times within all Star Wars fiction, planetary blockades were a key part to winning wars.

Restricting large portions of mapped FTL routes as no fly-by areas (as any ship going past would be destroyed, in or out of hyperspace.

In slipspace though, you would practically be in a different dimension. Untrackable and undestroyable by the Star Wars universe technology.

This would allow for free-flight across the galaxy, offering the UNSC and the Covenant practically unlimited resources and escape routes.

Mobility is an key element to war, something that mostly everyone forgets in this thread. If you can travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in just a few hours, oppesed to a few weeks it takes for Star Wars ships to arrive, you are way ahead of scedchule.

  • 03.05.2011 11:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.


There's also the fact the movies nerf Wars by a mile. So much so a small fleet of UNSC Destroyers could take on a Star Destroyer.

Still, any single UNSC ship--'cept for a Supercarrier, maybe--and the SMACs would get owned by any single Wars warship. UNSC's main advantages are that they are extremely nimble and fast (Keye's loop anyone?) able to strike from the shadows like a slipspace NOVA bomb.

And that their starfighters have nukes attached to them.

The Covenant are a good match for the Empire. A major Covie drawback is that their primary weapon takes a bit to charge, but when it fires, it'd incinerate any single Wars ship.

The Forerunners wouldn't break a sweat.

Nor would the Flood.

And the Precursors would literally laugh their asses off.

  • 03.05.2011 11:35 AM PDT

I'll read up on the comments above later, but I figured I would add in this tidbit.

The Star Wars universe can bring battle meditation to bear. This SINGLE force ability affects entire fleets, causing one side to lose morale and make mistakes while the other is more focused, has higher resolve and morale.

It has changed the course of massive fleet battles.

  • 03.05.2011 11:39 AM PDT


Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll read up on the comments above later, but I figured I would add in this tidbit.

The Star Wars universe can bring battle meditation to bear. This SINGLE force ability affects entire fleets, causing one side to lose morale and make mistakes while the other is more focused, has higher resolve and morale.

It has changed the course of massive fleet battles.


But again, fore all of the Force's powers and abilities, it can do nothing to the Precursors.

And wasn't Battle Meditation a fairly rare power?

  • 03.05.2011 11:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
I'll read up on the comments above later, but I figured I would add in this tidbit.

The Star Wars universe can bring battle meditation to bear. This SINGLE force ability affects entire fleets, causing one side to lose morale and make mistakes while the other is more focused, has higher resolve and morale.

It has changed the course of massive fleet battles.


I'm quite sure the Battle Meditation has no effect on the soulless creatures called the flood. Which, up to this point are the strongest force in the Halo universe. Developed by the strongest masters, the precursors.

  • 03.05.2011 11:45 AM PDT

You'll never see me coming and no, it's not because I'm stealthy or anything. It's because you'll be too busy fighting my team.

Star Wars could easily win a space battle they simply have way more ships and way more devastating weaponry; however, Spartan's would probably win in a ground fight because they have better tactical knowledge it seems and also have shields, numbers, strength, speed, stealth. Although that isn't going to help them much if they have a star destroyer firing heavy rounds at them or better yet a Death Star aiming at their planet.

  • 03.05.2011 11:48 AM PDT

Here, I have a solution. Let's remove ALL super weapons. Centerpoint station, death star, halo rings, etc.

Narrow it down, Republic/Empire vs UNSC/Covenant (and/or = /).(Or pick Star Wars faction.)

This topic is supposed to be space battle, not universe war <_<.

[Edited on 03.05.2011 11:53 AM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 11:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Finnish_Spartan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.

If it's Solely 'modern' Universe vs. Universe.
The UNSC / Covenant would win, as they have slipspace technology. As mentioned multiple times within all Star Wars fiction, planetary blockades were a key part to winning wars.

Restricting large portions of mapped FTL routes as no fly-by areas (as any ship going past would be destroyed, in or out of hyperspace.

In slipspace though, you would practically be in a different dimension. Untrackable and undestroyable by the Star Wars universe technology.

This would allow for free-flight across the galaxy, offering the UNSC and the Covenant practically unlimited resources and escape routes.

Mobility is an key element to war, something that mostly everyone forgets in this thread. If you can travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in just a few hours, oppesed to a few weeks it takes for Star Wars ships to arrive, you are way ahead of scedchule.


Instead of simply tearing a hole into Slipspace, Covenant Slipspace drives cut a very fine hole in the fabric of space-time and slips into Slipspace with precision (much like a scalpel compared to a butcher knife). It exits with the same pinpoint accuracy, takes less time during travel, and is able to plot a course with error not exceeding an atom.

So, The Covenant ships could simply "jump" behind the Wars ships and cover them with plasma before "jumping" again to safety.

  • 03.05.2011 11:59 AM PDT


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Posted by: Finnish_Spartan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.

If it's Solely 'modern' Universe vs. Universe.
The UNSC / Covenant would win, as they have slipspace technology. As mentioned multiple times within all Star Wars fiction, planetary blockades were a key part to winning wars.

Restricting large portions of mapped FTL routes as no fly-by areas (as any ship going past would be destroyed, in or out of hyperspace.

In slipspace though, you would practically be in a different dimension. Untrackable and undestroyable by the Star Wars universe technology.

This would allow for free-flight across the galaxy, offering the UNSC and the Covenant practically unlimited resources and escape routes.

Mobility is an key element to war, something that mostly everyone forgets in this thread. If you can travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in just a few hours, oppesed to a few weeks it takes for Star Wars ships to arrive, you are way ahead of scedchule.


Instead of simply tearing a hole into Slipspace, Covenant Slipspace drives cut a very fine hole in the fabric of space-time and slips into Slipspace with precision (much like a scalpel compared to a butcher knife). It exits with the same pinpoint accuracy, takes less time during travel, and is able to plot a course with error not exceeding an atom.

So, The Covenant ships could simply "jump" behind the Wars ships and cover them with plasma before "jumping" again to safety.


That could work, only a short-range pinpoint jump is described to basically "EMP" the ship, requiring them to reboot systems (Fall of Reach, a few cruisers do it and get destroyed before they can get shields and weapons back up.)

  • 03.05.2011 12:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: Finnish_Spartan

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
What started as a "UNSC and/or Covenant vs a Star Wars faction (Empire or republic)" went into "Universe vs universe."

Either way, as the other guy pointed out, I'm seeing the Halo winning all go solely on ancient "I win" tech by precursors or Forerunners.

If it's Solely 'modern' Universe vs. Universe.
The UNSC / Covenant would win, as they have slipspace technology. As mentioned multiple times within all Star Wars fiction, planetary blockades were a key part to winning wars.

Restricting large portions of mapped FTL routes as no fly-by areas (as any ship going past would be destroyed, in or out of hyperspace.

In slipspace though, you would practically be in a different dimension. Untrackable and undestroyable by the Star Wars universe technology.

This would allow for free-flight across the galaxy, offering the UNSC and the Covenant practically unlimited resources and escape routes.

Mobility is an key element to war, something that mostly everyone forgets in this thread. If you can travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in just a few hours, oppesed to a few weeks it takes for Star Wars ships to arrive, you are way ahead of scedchule.


Instead of simply tearing a hole into Slipspace, Covenant Slipspace drives cut a very fine hole in the fabric of space-time and slips into Slipspace with precision (much like a scalpel compared to a butcher knife). It exits with the same pinpoint accuracy, takes less time during travel, and is able to plot a course with error not exceeding an atom.

So, The Covenant ships could simply "jump" behind the Wars ships and cover them with plasma before "jumping" again to safety.


That could work, only a short-range pinpoint jump is described to basically "EMP" the ship, requiring them to reboot systems (Fall of Reach, a few cruisers do it and get destroyed before they can get shields and weapons back up.)


But there's also (if included) Forerunner method of sending attacks via Slipstream to normal space. This has been proven by the Halo installations and other Forerunner weapons, so there would be no actual battle if that happened.

  • 03.05.2011 12:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: JT L33T
Star Wars could easily win a space battle they simply have way more ships and way more devastating weaponry; however, Spartan's would probably win in a ground fight because they have better tactical knowledge it seems and also have shields, numbers, strength, speed, stealth. Although that isn't going to help them much if they have a star destroyer firing heavy rounds at them or better yet a Death Star aiming at their planet.


The thing about the ships is debatable....I mean, 500 Covenant ships, carriers, destroyers and cruisers alike were destroyed when the Unyielding Hierophant exploded, and still, The Covenant didn't lost half of it's ships, so I'm going to take a guess and say they potentially have an equal number of ships.

  • 03.05.2011 12:07 PM PDT

Weapon of Oppression

http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.

  • 03.05.2011 12:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.


Nice try, but I don't see a Speeder owning a Ghost any time soon, neither a Banshee getting shot down by a random snow speeder.

  • 03.05.2011 12:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: RKOSNAKE
But there's also (if included) Forerunner method of sending attacks via Slipstream to normal space. This has been proven by the Halo installations and other Forerunner weapons, so there would be no actual battle if that happened.


Destroying enemy forces from a different dimension... I think this covered the entire thread. Halo wins, with or without the Halo array.

/ thread

  • 03.05.2011 12:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
But there's also (if included) Forerunner method of sending attacks via Slipstream to normal space. This has been proven by the Halo installations and other Forerunner weapons, so there would be no actual battle if that happened.


Destroying enemy forces from a different dimension... I think this covered the entire thread. Halo wins, with or without the Halo array.

/ thread


Oh, thank you for agreeing with me good sir/lady.

  • 03.05.2011 12:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.



But that scenario didn't involved the forerunners.

Halo loses without the forerunner,precursors and flood and the rest of the ancients.But halo curbstombs many with those at their disposal.

[Edited on 03.05.2011 12:38 PM PST]

  • 03.05.2011 12:38 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.



But that scenario didn't involved the forerunners.

Halo loses without the forerunner,precursors and flood and the rest of the ancients.But halo curbstombs many with those at their disposal.


Which is why in my last post I suggested we remove all super-weapons, and restrict the facing sides to one faction each.

  • 03.05.2011 12:41 PM PDT


Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.


Fail

1) That site has a hitorical bias against Halo

2) It uses current incarnation rules. That fight was a broken and devestated Halo galaxy vs the Star Wars Republic and Empire.

They never take Halo seriously. This is not "fact"pile, this is Bungie. Everything goes.

  • 03.05.2011 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.


Fail

1) That site has a hitorical bias against Halo

2) It uses current incarnation rules. That fight was a broken and devestated Halo galaxy vs the Star Wars Republic and Empire.

They never take Halo seriously. This is not "fact"pile, this is Bungie. Everything goes.


Lolowned.

  • 03.05.2011 12:44 PM PDT


Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: ExcellentSix
http://www.factpile.com/star-wars-vs-halo/comment-page-1/#com ments

Nuff said.
Halo loses.


Fail

1) That site has a hitorical bias against Halo

2) It uses current incarnation rules. That fight was a broken and devestated Halo galaxy vs the Star Wars Republic and Empire.

They never take Halo seriously. This is not "fact"pile, this is Bungie. Everything goes.


Lolowned.


Thanks. That site pisses me off so much I don't go on it anymore.

Anyway. Halo can indeed strike from another dimension. the UNSC did this in Ghosts of Onyx (in the beginning, they tried launchng nukes from slipspace. Didn't work).

Star Wars simply, CANNOT win this fight.

  • 03.05.2011 12:48 PM PDT

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Yeah, besides Halo haves grunts, The Clone Troopers would be distracted by their cuteness and then bam, Kamikazefest!

  • 03.05.2011 12:51 PM PDT