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Posted by: Mr Owen L
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke
Never said anything about human technology.
I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.
An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.
An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.
While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.
Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.
The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.
This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.
put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.
The Acclamator's turbolasers carry 200 gigatons each, and can fire roughly 30-60 shots a minute, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force second at peak efficiency, so it would take 2 Cairo stations to hit it simultaneously in order to penetrate, if the shots are so much as a split-second apart the Acclamator will withstand it but it's shields will feel the strain.
Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.
The MAC gun on UNSC ships is generally said to be equivalent to 1.17 teratons of tnt, or 1.17% the impact force of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. the Pillar of autumn can fire 3 slugs on one charge, the time it takes to charge is unknown but these 3 shots can down the shields of nearly any covenant ship.
It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.
ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.
Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.
If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.
Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...
Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...
Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.
Checkmate my friend.
All very good but how can a laser which is light containing one type of photons in phase cause 7.4x10^8 megaton explosion considering megatons are a mesurement of explosive force compared to TNT. Surely the laser would have a power that isn't comparable to kineric impact force ( MAC rounds ). AS one is light which upon impact would most probably melt through the ship not cause an explosion that would come from the ship it's self probably the reactor exploding. Whereas a MAC round would impact the ship or it's shield and the kinetic energy would be turned into heat, light, sound energy and the less distance it travels after impact the more energy is transformed so if you were to stop a MAC round dead to would do more external damage than if it where to travel straight through but then it would gut the ship.
Also on the Slipspace hyperdrive arguement Forerunners can travel across the galaxy in a few hours and as seen in the portal in halo 3 it opens at earth and ships near instantly travel to the ark.
Wow, even Mr. Owen Lars is skeptical of his own universe.
No need to worry about that extended calculation he posted. It was instantaniously shot down by the movies. All of that hyperpowerful ship-weapon things that keep cropping up were rendered pointless arguments when someone brought up the movie canon overrides all other canon. And in the movies we see that the weapons are not disgustingly powerful.