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Subject: Who would win a space battle, Star Wars or Halo?

I am the Troll King.

Most of the people on the site don't know alot about star wars so we can't really compare the two.

  • 03.06.2011 9:55 AM PDT

I like Halo games, nuff said.


Posted by: Stewie2552

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Star Wars overwhelmingly. They've mastered individual combat spacecraft, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, etc, given them shields and can transport away in hyperspace.

You don't know much about Halo do you?

Explain.


Longsword, shortsword, Saber, Vulture, banshees, Vampires etc.
No shields, no shields, fine, typically not used in space, taken down in one hit, dey gets owned by teh lazors.

  • 03.06.2011 10:01 AM PDT


Posted by: civilwargeeky

Posted by: Stewie2552

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Star Wars overwhelmingly. They've mastered individual combat spacecraft, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, etc, given them shields and can transport away in hyperspace.

You don't know much about Halo do you?

Explain.


Longsword, shortsword, Saber, Vulture, banshees, Vampires etc.
No shields, no shields, fine, typically not used in space, taken down in one hit, dey gets owned by teh lazors.


Most often used as a heavy fighter/bomber, cannot be used outside of atmosphere, interceptor (aka, basically an A-Wing,), heavy gunboat that can be used outside of atmosphere(From what I remember) but is limited in weapons arc, weaker then TIE fighters and less durable, anti-aircraft vehicle but unknown if it can be used outside of atmosphere.

The two fightercraft Halo Could bring to bear are the Saber and Seraph. The Longsword could be, but it has been described as being weaker against other craft more agile then it (Seraph)

  • 03.06.2011 10:05 AM PDT

That one guy!

3 words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ljyoox6o
at 42 seconds

  • 03.06.2011 10:16 AM PDT


Posted by: civilwargeeky

Posted by: Stewie2552

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: DecepticonCobra
Star Wars overwhelmingly. They've mastered individual combat spacecraft, X-Wings, TIE Fighters, etc, given them shields and can transport away in hyperspace.

You don't know much about Halo do you?

Explain.


Longsword, shortsword, Saber, Vulture, banshees, Vampires etc.
No shields, no shields, fine, typically not used in space, taken down in one hit, dey gets owned by teh lazors.


And TIE fighters don't have shields anyway.

See the reason Halo doesn't have a whole lot of space fighters is because they're unneeded. When you're captial ships can pulverize an entire city, or incinerate entire worlds with just their main weapons, space superiority fighters aren't that important, or atmospheric superiority.

This is also part of the reason, at least in my opinion, the UNSC didn't put a whole lot into infantry weapon design. Got an army you need to take down? MAC them from orbit!

UNSC infantry is more of a military-level trained security force rather then a military-trained military force. The Insurrection was more like the Iraq War, we didn't need an epic army.

Covenant just caught us with our pants down.

The Forerunners, on the other hand, used fighters more often. They'd deploy them to planets for the apparent purpose of pulling the entitre planet apart.

(side note: when the Forerunners' starfighters can effectively do what the Death Star can do, just one peg under it, I think its obvious who'd win in a Empire vs Forerunner debate).

But anyway. And even if the TIEs or other fighters tried to swarm a Covenant ship, or a UNSC Prowler, they'd get vaporized by all those pulse lasers. Fighters in Halo are more of an annoyance to Covenant ships and everything higher then them rather then an actual threat. And the Halo capital ships are almost as nimble as fighters the way they've been depicted thus far.

(another Star Wars drawback: their ships are slow as hell).

  • 03.06.2011 10:53 AM PDT

Their ships appear slow as hell. Because they focus on the fightercraft zooming around said ships. Sure the ISD might not be that maneuverable, but it can pour firepower in any direction. A UNSC ship cannot. A Covenant cap-ships main weapon, the energy projector, cannot.

Note, Han Solo boasted about being able to outrun an ISD. If such a feat was easy(Slow as hell ships), then it wouldn't be something to boast about in how fast you could get a package somewhere.

  • 03.06.2011 10:59 AM PDT


Posted by: jonesy90000

Posted by: Recovery 25
I love how everyone arguing for the halo side says that the halo ring would immediately cause the battle to be over, but considering the fact that in the star wars universe they have centerpoint station which can destroy a star all the way across the galaxy or cause a moon to crash into a planet then centerpoint station could then cause the stars were the halos are to collapse thus destroying the halos or they could cause the halo to crash into whatever planet they are orbiting again causing the halo to be destroyed. So you super weapon is useless compared one to the Star Wars super weapon. Also there is this for space battles http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnough t and the only reason why it was destroyed was because it was close to the death star and they couldn't bring the secondary bridge online quick enough. Also here is the class of ship http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer. So in a space battle it would win against halo universe ships seriously a ship with 5,000 weapons emplacements, shields,cloaking devices and the fact that they can ram into ships without any damage to their own ship means that would win against a covenant ship easily and that is just a ship from the time of the movies ships 40 years after that were way more powerful.


None of the people who know alot about halo use the halo rings to win... They use precusors because you cant damage a precusor ship unless you have nueral weapons and only have has nueral weapons XD You can literally throw stars at a precusor ship and it will just heat it up a littlebit XD


One the precursors are dead and all their technology was destroyed when the halo rings went off and then if your gonna say that you have forerunners again they are also dead. So all you have is the humans, the covenant, and the flood. Which with how technologically advanced the star wars universe is they would just create a cure for the flood just like the humans did in cryptum.

  • 03.06.2011 4:17 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: Recovery 25

Posted by: jonesy90000

Posted by: Recovery 25
I love how everyone arguing for the halo side says that the halo ring would immediately cause the battle to be over, but considering the fact that in the star wars universe they have centerpoint station which can destroy a star all the way across the galaxy or cause a moon to crash into a planet then centerpoint station could then cause the stars were the halos are to collapse thus destroying the halos or they could cause the halo to crash into whatever planet they are orbiting again causing the halo to be destroyed. So you super weapon is useless compared one to the Star Wars super weapon. Also there is this for space battles http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnough t and the only reason why it was destroyed was because it was close to the death star and they couldn't bring the secondary bridge online quick enough. Also here is the class of ship http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer. So in a space battle it would win against halo universe ships seriously a ship with 5,000 weapons emplacements, shields,cloaking devices and the fact that they can ram into ships without any damage to their own ship means that would win against a covenant ship easily and that is just a ship from the time of the movies ships 40 years after that were way more powerful.


None of the people who know alot about halo use the halo rings to win... They use precusors because you cant damage a precusor ship unless you have nueral weapons and only have has nueral weapons XD You can literally throw stars at a precusor ship and it will just heat it up a littlebit XD


One the precursors are dead and all their technology was destroyed when the halo rings went off and then if your gonna say that you have forerunners again they are also dead. So all you have is the humans, the covenant, and the flood. Which with how technologically advanced the star wars universe is they would just create a cure for the flood just like the humans did in cryptum.


But, it's Star Wars vs Halo universes so everything is faaaaair.

  • 03.06.2011 4:21 PM PDT

MJB

UNSC would have a lot harder time than Covenant ships fighting Imperial and Republic Starships from the movies, none of the novels and expanded universe crap.

Post Human-Covie War UNSC ships with technology from the Elites integrated and Human space battle tactics: much more even fight.

  • 03.06.2011 4:22 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

Forerunners.

/game over Star Wars

The UNSC would have difficulty, although post-war as the poster said above they could have a chance. The Covenant on the other hand are probably superior to their Star Wars opponent.

And then you have Forerunners. Yeah.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 4:27 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 4:25 PM PDT


Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Source?


Slipspace jumps taking weeks, and usually involving cryo-sleep. Where in star wars we have hyperspace travels taking much less time.

An outer rim planet to a core planet took a day, maybe a few days. Such a travel is massively longer in Halo.


That is a good point. Another good point is that it is a space battle not a race.



lol, epic win to the star wars geek
anyways

the Covenant its a bigger empire and have more ships, biggers ships, stroger weapons and so on.. something like the dead star is useless 2 guys and a wookie taked down the first one a bunch of elites would take it in minutes

  • 03.06.2011 4:27 PM PDT

Vrrin Vrrin, yeah here I come.

Halo, I suppose because they have more powerful weapons than that of Star Wars....

then again, they are both fictional pieces of work so who knows?

  • 03.06.2011 4:28 PM PDT


Posted by: Rammal94
Forerunners.

/game over Star Wars

The UNSC would have difficulty, although post-war as the poster said above they could have a chance. The Covenant on the other hand are probably superior to their Star Wars opponent.

And then you have Forerunners. Yeah.



100% agree, even the UNSC could beat them
I think the Covenant would beat that Empiere, no doubt
and the Forerunners could own them in minutes

and the flood well.. they can win too

  • 03.06.2011 4:30 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

With the whole Flood discussion I'm starting to imagine Star War races in Flood Forms, creepy stuff.

  • 03.06.2011 4:31 PM PDT


Posted by: Councilor_117H2

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Source?


Slipspace jumps taking weeks, and usually involving cryo-sleep. Where in star wars we have hyperspace travels taking much less time.

An outer rim planet to a core planet took a day, maybe a few days. Such a travel is massively longer in Halo.


That is a good point. Another good point is that it is a space battle not a race.



lol, epic win to the star wars geek
anyways

the Covenant its a bigger empire and have more ships, biggers ships, stroger weapons and so on.. something like the dead star is useless 2 guys and a wookie taked down the first one a bunch of elites would take it in minutes


The Covenant isn't bigger. Between the unsc and the covenant they only control the orion arm of our galaxy. While the star wars universe is an entire galaxy and if you add the yuuzahan vong then you get two galaxies.

  • 03.06.2011 4:31 PM PDT

a better fight would be like a specific covenant ship vs a specific empire ship so like a Covenant Super Carrier against a similar star wars ship, not sure what that would be. One of the cruisers from the movie porbably.

  • 03.06.2011 4:32 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D


Posted by: wildnuke
Well here we go....

As we know the star wars universe is limited in the ships firepower by the movie cannon. Thier so called "teraton" weapons on star destroyers can't enen destroy a small shuttle-like ship. (episode IV)The Centerpoint,Starcrusher, Death Star,etc. Aren't even a match for the Forerrunner's galaxy shredding technology.

As for ground troops if Ewoks with sticks can beat the Empire's armies then what do you think Covanent and Forerrunner weapons can do?

As for the Force it is useless since the Haloverse did not come from the Warsverse.

And to top it all off, Flood.... need I say more?

Right now I see no need for precursors.


Oh, and what he said.

  • 03.06.2011 4:40 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.

Halo rings.

/Thread.

lulz

The flood, covvies, forerunner, cole, etc

  • 03.06.2011 4:43 PM PDT


Posted by: Recovery 25

Posted by: Councilor_117H2

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: Sierra 1993DJC
Source?


Slipspace jumps taking weeks, and usually involving cryo-sleep. Where in star wars we have hyperspace travels taking much less time.

An outer rim planet to a core planet took a day, maybe a few days. Such a travel is massively longer in Halo.


That is a good point. Another good point is that it is a space battle not a race.



lol, epic win to the star wars geek
anyways

the Covenant its a bigger empire and have more ships, biggers ships, stroger weapons and so on.. something like the dead star is useless 2 guys and a wookie taked down the first one a bunch of elites would take it in minutes


The Covenant isn't bigger. Between the unsc and the covenant they only control the orion arm of our galaxy. While the star wars universe is an entire galaxy and if you add the yuuzahan vong then you get two galaxies.



are u sure?? even if thats truth a bunch of rebels and a jedi defeated them

thats like a few marines and half a spartan...
and I talked about the covenant but the post is about Halo, so Forerunnes cout too, and they could own the stars wars empire easily

  • 03.06.2011 4:46 PM PDT

Posted by: wildnuke
Well here we go....

As we know the star wars universe is limited in the ships firepower by the movie cannon. Thier so called "teraton" weapons on star destroyers can't enen destroy a small shuttle-like ship. (episode IV)The Centerpoint,Starcrusher, Death Star,etc. Aren't even a match for the Forerrunner's galaxy shredding technology.

As for ground troops if Ewoks with sticks can beat the Empire's armies then what do you think Covanent and Forerrunner weapons can do?

As for the Force it is useless since the Haloverse did not come from the Warsverse.

And to top it all off, Flood.... need I say more?

Right now I see no need for precursors.




this is all the topic needs for a closure lol
totally agree with this

  • 03.06.2011 4:50 PM PDT


They won a few victories. Then killed the emperor due to Darth Vader turning against him. Even after that event the Empire was still around and kicking majorly.

  • 03.06.2011 4:51 PM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.


Posted by: Recovery 25

Posted by: jonesy90000

Posted by: Recovery 25
I love how everyone arguing for the halo side says that the halo ring would immediately cause the battle to be over, but considering the fact that in the star wars universe they have centerpoint station which can destroy a star all the way across the galaxy or cause a moon to crash into a planet then centerpoint station could then cause the stars were the halos are to collapse thus destroying the halos or they could cause the halo to crash into whatever planet they are orbiting again causing the halo to be destroyed. So you super weapon is useless compared one to the Star Wars super weapon. Also there is this for space battles http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Executor-class_Star_Dreadnough t and the only reason why it was destroyed was because it was close to the death star and they couldn't bring the secondary bridge online quick enough. Also here is the class of ship http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer. So in a space battle it would win against halo universe ships seriously a ship with 5,000 weapons emplacements, shields,cloaking devices and the fact that they can ram into ships without any damage to their own ship means that would win against a covenant ship easily and that is just a ship from the time of the movies ships 40 years after that were way more powerful.


None of the people who know alot about halo use the halo rings to win... They use precusors because you cant damage a precusor ship unless you have nueral weapons and only have has nueral weapons XD You can literally throw stars at a precusor ship and it will just heat it up a littlebit XD


One the precursors are dead and all their technology was destroyed when the halo rings went off and then if your gonna say that you have forerunners again they are also dead. So all you have is the humans, the covenant, and the flood. Which with how technologically advanced the star wars universe is they would just create a cure for the flood just like the humans did in cryptum.

Halo Universe. Where in the OP does it say 2552?

  • 03.06.2011 4:51 PM PDT

Thats a good fight actually, a Saber vs. and X-wing

the X-Wing has lightspeed so it kind of makes it unfair, but their combat speeds seem about the same.

  • 03.06.2011 4:56 PM PDT

Yes the covenant only controls the orion arm says so in the first sentence http://www.halopedian.com/The_Covenant Also why is it everyone thinks there is only the empire and that's it. If you guys get to use the forerunners then the star wars universe gets to use the millions of years of empires and republics which easily out number the halo universe. Also the yuuzhan vong were not defeated by a bunch of rebels and jedi in fact the jedi were almost wipe out by the yuuzhan vong because they weren't part of the force and the New Republic was destroyed by the yuuzhan vong. It took every faction in the universe just to stop the yuuzhan vong. This beats the precursors http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thought_bomb and the jedi had an ability that could completely eliminate the atomic bonds in metal thus causing the metal to turn to dust so use that on a ship and bye bye ship.

  • 03.06.2011 5:04 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

The thought bomb was one of the most powerful and destructive applications of the dark side of the Force which targeted all Force-sensitive individuals

Too bad none of the Halo Universe habitants are Force Sensitives.

Besides, No precursors or anything is needed on this battle, the Onyx Sentinel Factory alone could win the battle.

An Onyx Sentinel was built every 6 seconds, this machines were able to combine to form such a powerful force that about forty-five combined Sentinels can shoot down a Covenant Destroyer with ease.

The Destroyer is able to take 3 MAC Shots before being destroyed, so take that in consideration.

  • 03.06.2011 5:26 PM PDT