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Subject: Who would win a space battle, Star Wars or Halo?

MJB


Posted by: Rammal94
Forerunners.

/game over Star Wars

The UNSC would have difficulty, although post-war as the poster said above they could have a chance. The Covenant on the other hand are probably superior to their Star Wars opponent.

And then you have Forerunners. Yeah.



honestly the Elites, (Post Great Schism especially)
could probably beat the Imperial Navy in a fair fight (roughly even number of ships and both side meet without any one having a starting advantage)

but as i said before, one Human-Elite Destroyer with combined human and elite technology and both species crew and battle tactics, (picture admiral ackbar except an elite) they could easily beat an Imperial Star Destroyer.

  • 03.06.2011 6:31 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: Rammal94
Forerunners.

/game over Star Wars

The UNSC would have difficulty, although post-war as the poster said above they could have a chance. The Covenant on the other hand are probably superior to their Star Wars opponent.

And then you have Forerunners. Yeah.



honestly the Elites, (Post Great Schism especially)
could probably beat the Imperial Navy in a fair fight (roughly even number of ships and both side meet without any one having a starting advantage)

but as i said before, one Human-Elite Destroyer with combined human and elite technology and both species crew and battle tactics, (picture admiral ackbar except an elite) they could easily beat an Imperial Star Destroyer.


Rtas 'Vadum comes to my mind and if human both Jacob Keyes and Preston Cole too.

  • 03.06.2011 6:42 PM PDT
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Are we talking UNSC vs any Star Wars military, Covies vs Star wars, or Forerunners vs Star Wars? 'Cause if it's UNSC vs Star Wars, then Halo is screwed.

  • 03.06.2011 7:23 PM PDT

MJB


Posted by: Caaaarrrl
Are we talking UNSC vs any Star Wars military, Covies vs Star wars, or Forerunners vs Star Wars? 'Cause if it's UNSC vs Star Wars, then Halo is screwed.


forerunners in my opinion are out of the question, to advanced,

either covenant or post human-covie war humanity are who i'm pitting against the Imperial or republic forces

  • 03.06.2011 8:13 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Unless the thread changes to UNSC/Covenant vs (insert Star Wars faction here) I think everything is permitted.

  • 03.06.2011 8:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Did anyone even read my reply?
HALO ARRAY = GAME OVER for Star Wars

Slipspace > Hyperspace

Slipspace allowes for safe space travel without the risk of hitting a planet, it's also considerably faster (Slipspace could possibly reach speeds where it could take a few seconds to travel from one galaxy to another...)

The fact is, in Halo you have intergalactic travel, that is something the Star Wars series has never even come close to.


You are obviously retarded.

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

  • 03.06.2011 8:16 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Did anyone even read my reply?
HALO ARRAY = GAME OVER for Star Wars

Slipspace > Hyperspace

Slipspace allowes for safe space travel without the risk of hitting a planet, it's also considerably faster (Slipspace could possibly reach speeds where it could take a few seconds to travel from one galaxy to another...)

The fact is, in Halo you have intergalactic travel, that is something the Star Wars series has never even come close to.


You are obviously retarded.

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.


Still, there's no use in being so fast if you're going to crash into a star or planet.

  • 03.06.2011 8:17 PM PDT

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: Mr Owen L

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: wildnuke

Never said anything about human technology.


I do not have much information on Covenant armaments although I know how much it can take. Give me a minute.

An Imperial II Star Destroyer has 8 main octuple barreled guns, but it has 36 other turbolasers scattered across it's surface, and that doesn't include the 100+ point defense guns.

An SMAC like the kind on Cairo Station has 9x the firepower of a regular shipboard MAC, and can punch through nearly any covenant ship and come out the other side, and into another covenant ship if there is one behind it.

While the firepower of each individual Turbolaser on an Imperial II is unknown, the overall firepower can be determined using it's reactor power, which is 9,280,000,000,000 terawatts.

Also, and a shipboard MAC gun is roughly 50,000 megatons per shot, than it is only 1/4 the strength of a Turbolaser shot from an Acclamator, which has 12 guns and has a firing rate of roughly 30-60 shots per minute with a range of 180,000,000km.

The Venator entry in the Cross sections books states that any true warship in star wars can redirect all of it's reactor power to the weapons if necessary, however we will assume it normally applies 1/3rd of this power to weapons, with the other 2/3rds of power being distributed amongst shields and engines.

This means that an ISDII can dish out roughly 740,000,000 megatons per second spread across it's guns.

put another way, that's 50,000,000,000x the power of hiroshima every second.

The Acclamator's turbolasers carry 200 gigatons each, and can fire roughly 30-60 shots a minute, Acclamator shields can withstand 16.7 teratons of force second at peak efficiency, so it would take 2 Cairo stations to hit it simultaneously in order to penetrate, if the shots are so much as a split-second apart the Acclamator will withstand it but it's shields will feel the strain.

Meanwhile the MAC Gun is much weaker, shorter range and much lower rate of fire.

The MAC gun on UNSC ships is generally said to be equivalent to 1.17 teratons of tnt, or 1.17% the impact force of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs. the Pillar of autumn can fire 3 slugs on one charge, the time it takes to charge is unknown but these 3 shots can down the shields of nearly any covenant ship.

It takes the Covenant an entire fleet to glass a planet, a single star destroyer can achieve that in less time.

ISDII shields are designed to be able to withstand a full half an hour of another ISDII pounding the hell out of em with everything it's got.

Turbolasers can track ships up to 180,000,000 km away (roughly 10 light minutes) so their range is an order of magnitude higher.

If the regular MAC guns have a firing rate similar to Cairo Station, than a Turbolaser on an ISDII has roughly 250,000x the firepower of a MAC gun on average and 83,000x the firepower of the pillar of autumn type, multiplied by 44 for each of the ISDIIs.

Covenant Ships can't withstand 3 MAC's, Do you honestly think they can survive something 4 times stronger with dozens throughout the ship? Please...

Just to add to the Hyperspace and Slip Space thing...

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.

Checkmate my friend.


All very good but how can a laser which is light containing one type of photons in phase cause 7.4x10^8 megaton explosion considering megatons are a mesurement of explosive force compared to TNT. Surely the laser would have a power that isn't comparable to kineric impact force ( MAC rounds ). AS one is light which upon impact would most probably melt through the ship not cause an explosion that would come from the ship it's self probably the reactor exploding. Whereas a MAC round would impact the ship or it's shield and the kinetic energy would be turned into heat, light, sound energy and the less distance it travels after impact the more energy is transformed so if you were to stop a MAC round dead to would do more external damage than if it where to travel straight through but then it would gut the ship.

Also on the Slipspace hyperdrive arguement Forerunners can travel across the galaxy in a few hours and as seen in the portal in halo 3 it opens at earth and ships near instantly travel to the ark.


Wow, even Mr. Owen Lars is skeptical of his own universe.

No need to worry about that extended calculation he posted. It was instantaniously shot down by the movies. All of that hyperpowerful ship-weapon things that keep cropping up were rendered pointless arguments when someone brought up the movie canon overrides all other canon. And in the movies we see that the weapons are not disgustingly powerful.


They are actually, it's just the armor can match up with the weaponry.

  • 03.06.2011 8:18 PM PDT

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depends on the energy sword vs. lightsaber. In the end thats what it comes down to...

  • 03.06.2011 8:18 PM PDT

Posted by: Recovery 25
This owns everything in Halo http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Centerpoint_Station


LOL it looks like a giant dick

  • 03.06.2011 8:21 PM PDT

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Did anyone even read my reply?
HALO ARRAY = GAME OVER for Star Wars

Slipspace > Hyperspace

Slipspace allowes for safe space travel without the risk of hitting a planet, it's also considerably faster (Slipspace could possibly reach speeds where it could take a few seconds to travel from one galaxy to another...)

The fact is, in Halo you have intergalactic travel, that is something the Star Wars series has never even come close to.


You are obviously retarded.

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.


Still, there's no use in being so fast if you're going to crash into a star or planet.


There are been NO accidents in Hyperspace. Only when exiting. Do you honestly Believe Slipspace is safer? It's worse! You could end up millions of miles away from your destination and end up coming out in the middle of a sun as said in the Halo books.

  • 03.06.2011 8:21 PM PDT

MJB

^lol

  • 03.06.2011 8:23 PM PDT

Posted by: MAXPWN197

Posted by: Rammal94
Forerunners.

/game over Star Wars

The UNSC would have difficulty, although post-war as the poster said above they could have a chance. The Covenant on the other hand are probably superior to their Star Wars opponent.

And then you have Forerunners. Yeah.



honestly the Elites, (Post Great Schism especially)
could probably beat the Imperial Navy in a fair fight (roughly even number of ships and both side meet without any one having a starting advantage)

but as i said before, one Human-Elite Destroyer with combined human and elite technology and both species crew and battle tactics, (picture admiral ackbar except an elite) they could easily beat an Imperial Star Destroyer.


I laugh at your assumptions, take a look at my post a couple pages back and say that again.

  • 03.06.2011 8:27 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Did anyone even read my reply?
HALO ARRAY = GAME OVER for Star Wars

Slipspace > Hyperspace

Slipspace allowes for safe space travel without the risk of hitting a planet, it's also considerably faster (Slipspace could possibly reach speeds where it could take a few seconds to travel from one galaxy to another...)

The fact is, in Halo you have intergalactic travel, that is something the Star Wars series has never even come close to.


You are obviously retarded.

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.


Still, there's no use in being so fast if you're going to crash into a star or planet.


There are been NO accidents in Hyperspace. Only when exiting. Do you honestly Believe Slipspace is safer? It's worse! You could end up millions of miles away from your destination and end up coming out in the middle of a sun as said in the Halo books.


The same could be said for Star Wars, it's even mentioned by Han Solo in the movies.

"Without precise calculations, we'd fly right through a star, bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"

  • 03.06.2011 8:27 PM PDT

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: Finnish_Spartan
Did anyone even read my reply?
HALO ARRAY = GAME OVER for Star Wars

Slipspace > Hyperspace

Slipspace allowes for safe space travel without the risk of hitting a planet, it's also considerably faster (Slipspace could possibly reach speeds where it could take a few seconds to travel from one galaxy to another...)

The fact is, in Halo you have intergalactic travel, that is something the Star Wars series has never even come close to.


You are obviously retarded.

Hyperdrive is faster than Covenant Slipspace, Covenant ships can reach 912 light years per day but Hyperdrive can travel 100,000 light years per day if not faster depending on the grade and route.


Still, there's no use in being so fast if you're going to crash into a star or planet.


There are been NO accidents in Hyperspace. Only when exiting. Do you honestly Believe Slipspace is safer? It's worse! You could end up millions of miles away from your destination and end up coming out in the middle of a sun as said in the Halo books.


The same could be said for Star Wars, it's even mentioned by Han Solo in the movies.

"Without precise calculations, we'd fly right through a star, bounce too close to a supernova, and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"


That quote just affected yours more than hurt mine. It actually gave mine the upper hand, "Precise Calculations" I'm sure they wouldn't make a lot of incorrect calculations as not many accidents have happened in its 50,000 years of existence.

  • 03.06.2011 8:29 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

And you think the Halo calculations are not carefully planed either?, considering the time they had been using them compared to Wars' 50,000 years, I'd say they good a really good job.

Besides, The Covenant Slipspace is practically perfect when it comes to calculations.

And let's not talk about the Forerunners, cause they could twist the Slipspace as much as they saw fit.

  • 03.06.2011 8:46 PM PDT

Posted by: RKOSNAKE
And you think the Halo calculations are not carefully planed either?, considering the time they had been using them compared to Wars' 50,000 years, I'd say they good a really good job.

Besides, The Covenant Slipspace is practically perfect when it comes to calculations.

And let's not talk about the Forerunners, cause they could twist the Slipspace as much as they saw fit.


No, I do not believe the Human calculations are correct, 90% of the time they are off by thousands and even millions of miles. Covenant Slip Space is different, it's pretty much a copy of the Forerunner slipspace, although this is different as the Forerunner dreadnought which is a Forerunner ship took a few days to Reach Earth.

  • 03.06.2011 8:49 PM PDT

"I may not be perfect, but always been true."

Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: RKOSNAKE
And you think the Halo calculations are not carefully planed either?, considering the time they had been using them compared to Wars' 50,000 years, I'd say they good a really good job.

Besides, The Covenant Slipspace is practically perfect when it comes to calculations.

And let's not talk about the Forerunners, cause they could twist the Slipspace as much as they saw fit.


No, I do not believe the Human calculations are correct, 90% of the time they are off by thousands and even millions of miles. Covenant Slip Space is different, it's pretty much a copy of the Forerunner slipspace, although this is different as the Forerunner dreadnought which is a Forerunner ship took a few days to Reach Earth.


Well, considering the fact that in Wars they just need to type the place they want to go (since the coordinates of every star system in their galaxy is already stored in their navigation computers) they just need to specify the star system and it's done.

Whereas the UNSC has to actually take measures to ensure they don't kill themselves when they jump. And concerning the Dreadnought, they may not be using it to it's full potential, seeing the Slipspace manipulating capabilities Forerunners possessed.

  • 03.06.2011 8:59 PM PDT

LOL it looks like a giant dick

You have the weirdest dick ever then.

[Edited on 03.06.2011 9:40 PM PST]

  • 03.06.2011 9:39 PM PDT

enjoying the argument on both sides

this is COMPLETELY off topic, but I would just like to point out that lightsabers would be very effective against the flood. But if anything were to go wrong fighting Jedi flood would suck :(

  • 03.07.2011 4:41 AM PDT

blarg

[Edited on 03.07.2011 6:50 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 6:40 AM PDT

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/
We that know much about Halo would know that forerunner and precursors have technology we cant even imagine.
But then again if you read the star wars novels you would find out that the ancient of their universe also had uber weapons, ships etc.
It would be a long war, but in the end the Halo universe would have won since flood have an infinite supply of units,

you would probably say that star wars also had infinite units, because they could clone more clones, make more droids,
But that takes time, and clones wouldn't work because flood could infect them.

Droids could be made by machines so they didn't need any sentinent life to make them, but what victory is it, if there is only droids left in the world.
+ halo also have something to compare with this. The Halos.

So lets say a great war started,
Halo universe - Star wars universe.
Halo universe have precursor ships, they would destroy everything. Forerunners had the technology to make the Halos wich could destroy every sentinent life in the galaxies,

Precursors was much more intelligent, lets say they could turn all the power in a Halo into a turret, and fire it on ONE ship, stopping on that ship, no other ships were damaged.

If any of you Star wars nerds think that your ships or weapons could compare to that, you need to stop playing cod.

THIS http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer is one of the strongest ships sw have, a precursor ship, can easily destroy it, a precursor ship can drive right through the eclipse destroyer without taking any damage.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Centerpoint_Station
Ok lets say it can take out a precursor ship,
its still destroyed, it dosn*t exist anymore.

Halo would win, but it would have been a long hard war.





  • 03.07.2011 7:46 AM PDT

If you can read this, that means I'm not a Shaolin monk...

yet.


Posted by: red alert447
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/
We that know much about Halo would know that forerunner and precursors have technology we cant even imagine.
But then again if you read the star wars novels you would find out that the ancient of their universe also had uber weapons, ships etc.
It would be a long war, but in the end the Halo universe would have won since flood have an infinite supply of units,

you would probably say that star wars also had infinite units, because they could clone more clones, make more droids,
But that takes time, and clones wouldn't work because flood could infect them.

Droids could be made by machines so they didn't need any sentinent life to make them, but what victory is it, if there is only droids left in the world.
+ halo also have something to compare with this. The Halos.

So lets say a great war started,
Halo universe - Star wars universe.
Halo universe have precursor ships, they would destroy everything. Forerunners had the technology to make the Halos wich could destroy every sentinent life in the galaxies,

Precursors was much more intelligent, lets say they could turn all the power in a Halo into a turret, and fire it on ONE ship, stopping on that ship, no other ships were damaged.

If any of you Star wars nerds think that your ships or weapons could compare to that, you need to stop playing cod.

THIS http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer is one of the strongest ships sw have, a precursor ship, can easily destroy it, a precursor ship can drive right through the eclipse destroyer without taking any damage.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Centerpoint_Station
Ok lets say it can take out a precursor ship,
its still destroyed, it dosn*t exist anymore.

Halo would win, but it would have been a long hard war.






This.

  • 03.07.2011 8:15 AM PDT


Posted by: red alert447
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/
We that know much about Halo would know that forerunner and precursors have technology we cant even imagine.
But then again if you read the star wars novels you would find out that the ancient of their universe also had uber weapons, ships etc.
It would be a long war, but in the end the Halo universe would have won since flood have an infinite supply of units,

you would probably say that star wars also had infinite units, because they could clone more clones, make more droids,
But that takes time, and clones wouldn't work because flood could infect them.

Droids could be made by machines so they didn't need any sentinent life to make them, but what victory is it, if there is only droids left in the world.
+ halo also have something to compare with this. The Halos.

So lets say a great war started,
Halo universe - Star wars universe.
Halo universe have precursor ships, they would destroy everything. Forerunners had the technology to make the Halos wich could destroy every sentinent life in the galaxies,

Precursors was much more intelligent, lets say they could turn all the power in a Halo into a turret, and fire it on ONE ship, stopping on that ship, no other ships were damaged.

If any of you Star wars nerds think that your ships or weapons could compare to that, you need to stop playing cod.

THIS http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Eclipse-class_Super_Star_Destr oyer is one of the strongest ships sw have, a precursor ship, can easily destroy it, a precursor ship can drive right through the eclipse destroyer without taking any damage.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Centerpoint_Station
Ok lets say it can take out a precursor ship,
its still destroyed, it dosn*t exist anymore.

Halo would win, but it would have been a long hard war.







You just contradicted yourself you argue that the Halo universe can call on the precursors and the forerunners, but the Star Wars universe can't use centerpoint because it's destroyed. If the Star Wars universe can't use centerpoint than the Halo universe can't call on dead civilization. Also the eclipse class star destroyer is one of the most powerful ships in the time of the movies where the books are at now is 40 years after that and the ships at that time are way more powerful and the legacy comics series is 100 years later so ships are even more powerful.

  • 03.07.2011 9:35 AM PDT


Posted by: Recovery 25
You just contradicted yourself you argue that the Halo universe can call on the precursors and the forerunners, but the Star Wars universe can't use centerpoint because it's destroyed. If the Star Wars universe can't use centerpoint than the Halo universe can't call on dead civilization. Also the eclipse class star destroyer is one of the most powerful ships in the time of the movies where the books are at now is 40 years after that and the ships at that time are way more powerful and the legacy comics series is 100 years later so ships are even more powerful.


Exactly my point. It needs to be limited. UNSC or Covenant (or both) vs a faction(Or two) from Star Wars.

NO super weapons, "I win" buttons, ancient super powerful races (see last two items.)

[Edited on 03.07.2011 9:42 AM PST]

  • 03.07.2011 9:38 AM PDT