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Subject: I want Halo 2 back but....

Posted by: xBaddog420x
Everything was better with h2

  • 04.05.2011 7:11 PM PDT

Everything may not be the same like back in the day for the first few weeks or months, but eventually all the people that never really liked it would move on to something else. Leaving all the old schoolers to our Halo 2 :)

  • 04.05.2011 7:34 PM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

All because the veterans fell under the sawrm of the new generation.... It sickens me to see a good player with high K/D get betrayed because they had their most powerful weapon, the sniper, which if they hadn't been betrayed would have earned alot more kills, because a little kid thinks hes pro at it then gets assasinated from behind...

  • 04.06.2011 2:29 AM PDT


Posted by: the cobbler
It wouldn't be the same.
The game could remain unchanged, but it wouldn't be the same.
With the new gaming community, XBL Parties (I HATE THEM), and other things, it wouldn't be the same.

People are different now. I remember teaming up on headlong with guys I just met and forming a plan and laughing when we drove into the water.

It wouldn't happen like that now.

Now, people rush for the weapons, betray for the weapons, and think of themselves. The other teammates, why they are in a party! They can't hear you!

I want the game back but...

It wouldn't be the same.


Right, exactly the community back then is not the community today. It's just like real life, things were better back then and now things are slowly going to -blam!- more and more.

Back in the H2 days you didn't need botnets and CaP LeTTeR GaMeRTaGz to be cool or get in a lobby. People didn't bltch about rank because it actually took skill to get and people wouldn't play custom games the way we did back then.

[Edited on 04.06.2011 11:51 AM PDT]

  • 04.06.2011 11:49 AM PDT

Irony, because I also saw lots of XxCaPsLeTtErxX gamertags too, along with boosters, modders, and I heard there used to be standbyers and ddosers too.

[Edited on 04.06.2011 12:35 PM PDT]

  • 04.06.2011 12:35 PM PDT


Posted by: XxSCiZORxX
Irony, because I also saw lots of XxCaPsLeTtErxX gamertags too, along with boosters, modders, and I heard there used to be standbyers and ddosers too.

All of this is spot on.

H2 had a pretty big group of -blam!-s, atleast the H2 I was playing...

  • 04.07.2011 3:49 PM PDT

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This game needs to be remade SERIOUSLY.

  • 04.07.2011 7:29 PM PDT

Developmentwise, nobody can say Halo 2 was the "best" game. But I WILL say it was sure as hell the most fun.

Bungie and the community and all my friends always -blam!- about how unrefined and "poorly made" it was, but in reality, that's what made it so good.

If the game was "perfect", there would be no map glitches in the campaign. No superjumps, no scarab guns, no crazy cool launches, nothing so awesome that the thousands of fans could make sweet YouTube videos of them and speculate about them for hours. If it were "perfect", the player skill vs the amount of fun had vs the K/D ratio would be homogenous. Everyone would have a good time, everyone would get a good amount of kills, it would be all fine and dandy.

But especially for the twelve year old noob -blam!-es who can't -BLAM!-ing play a video game and just run for the rocket launcher and overshield and drive warthogs like -blam!-. Same goes for the players who take the game seriously. They would get a satisfactory amount of kills and always try to stragegize for maximum effectiveness.

Since it wasn't "perfect", we never had those noob -blam!-es or wannabe 1337s in our games. The noobs got frustrated and left, and the stat-blam!-s got r@ped because there's something unquantifiable in the way Halo 2 was made, some flaw that made the game so unpredictable. Maybe it was the weapon balance that was "terrible" or the SMG starts. Who knows? But the stat-blam!-s couldn't find a footing, got frustrated and left, the noobs got r@ped and left, leaving people who really don't care about stats and ranks and stuff and who really just want to have a good time. And that's what made the Halo 2 community so great.

The game wasn't perfect.

And because there was no theater mode, only the dedicated and professional modders could make machinima, making all the machinima AWESOME.
Because the skulls were so crazy -BLAM!-ing hard to get (and because there was no YouTube), it made getting them take some real skill and was truly rewarding.
And because the rocket launcher had lock-on for all vehicles, it kept the vehicle-blam!-s away, and it made the rocket-blam!-s save their rockets for when they were needed.
And because the sword was so new and exciting and because it ran out of battery so fast, and because it was instakill in an enemy's hands, it made it a worthwile challenge to try and kill the sword elites instead of just running or just killing them with an overpowered weapon.
And because of the BXR and other combos, it made those who truly loved the game and who were truly good at it able to show their skill and improve beyond the average player.

All these things and more were "fixed" in Halo 3 and Halo Reach, so now we have the stat-blam!-s back, we have the noobs back, we have the terrible machinima, we have the WAY easy skulls, we have the homogeneous skill level and K/D, we have all the weapons fully "balanced", we lost all the crazy cool YouTube vids and speculations, and all that sort of stuff.

Somehow all these imperfections and unrefined parts of the game really actually came together and made this game -BLAM!-ING AWESOME!

See, because the gaming industry and the Halo engine has made what some would call "progress", it has actually become worse. Which is why I believe that Halo 2 is, always was and will always be the number one best video game in existence.

Such a shame it's never EVER going to be the same as it was in its Xbox LIVE prime. Red and blue flags everywhere should be hung at half-mast.

And to all you who think Halo 2 should be remade with better graphics, I LIKE Halo 2's visual styles. They're so dark and dramatic without super high-contrast explosions or neon-colored elites running around.

And to all the trolls out there, you are ENTITLED to your opinion, but you don't have to whine and argue about EVERY LITTLE THING someone says!

  • 04.07.2011 10:45 PM PDT
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You're right, OP. Today's Halo players(console gamers in general) don't want to work for anything. They want the skill gap as small as possible so they can pwn the good players, and they don't want to work for a high rank.

They just want to play for "fun"(while disregarding that fun is subjective). God forbid any of that "competitive stuff" were in the game.

  • 04.08.2011 2:00 AM PDT

R.I.P. Halo 2 11/9/04-4/15/10
If you havn't played Halo 2 online than you are missing so much. Plus if you have played a good amount of Halo 2 online, I might have a better chance of listening to anything you say.

We all know what the good old days are like but I feel that is no reason to hate on XBL parties. I mean do you want to hear other people's private conversations?

  • 04.08.2011 3:51 AM PDT

R.I.P. Halo 2 11/9/04-4/15/10
If you havn't played Halo 2 online than you are missing so much. Plus if you have played a good amount of Halo 2 online, I might have a better chance of listening to anything you say.


Posted by: xXFatal v1
You're right, OP. Today's Halo players(console gamers in general) don't want to work for anything. They want the skill gap as small as possible so they can pwn the good players, and they don't want to work for a high rank.

They just want to play for "fun"(while disregarding that fun is subjective). God forbid any of that "competitive stuff" were in the game.


That defines more than 3/4 of the Reach Community. And the Reach forums are filled with them too.

[Edited on 04.08.2011 3:53 AM PDT]

  • 04.08.2011 3:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: Matt Grimes FTL
the majority of the 12 year olds who got r@ped, left and played another game.
[Edited on 03.16.2011 3:10 PM PDT]
Heh, I was 11 when I started play Halo 2 back in '06 and man, I loved that game. Even if I got destroyed, I still liked it.

I'm not looking through rose colored glasses either, I loved that game even when I was spanked. It was awesome. Hell, I could talk on the mic and wouldn't be harassed due to having a high voice. I feel kinda bad for the younger kids who play Halo now since they get tossed around like nothing. Of course, though, there were always trash-talkers who would point out the fact that I was a child, but it was no where near as rampant as it is now.

  • 04.08.2011 1:06 PM PDT


Posted by: funnymann
Posted by: Matt Grimes FTL
the majority of the 12 year olds who got r@ped, left and played another game.
[Edited on 03.16.2011 3:10 PM PDT]
Heh, I was 11 when I started play Halo 2 back in '06 and man, I loved that game. Even if I got destroyed, I still liked it.

I'm not looking through rose colored glasses either, I loved that game even when I was spanked. It was awesome. Hell, I could talk on the mic and wouldn't be harassed due to having a high voice. I feel kinda bad for the younger kids who play Halo now since they get tossed around like nothing. Of course, though, there were always trash-talkers who would point out the fact that I was a child, but it was no where near as rampant as it is now.

Funny, because everyone looking through goggles ends up denying it.

Let me elighten you on what those are. Now, I will smash them.

  • 04.08.2011 1:57 PM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.


Posted by: Frank_Sknaw
Halo 2 was a great game, nostalgia or not. If nostalgia were the case then I would say Halo CE is better than Halo 2 or Halo 3 is better than Reach but I don't think this. Just because a game is a bit old doesn't mean everyone who likes it is just being nostalgic.

  • 04.08.2011 3:33 PM PDT

Posted by: totallymassive
Theater and Forge actually detract from the community, they are not good features. Modders in Halo 2 and montages makers in Halo 2 did a much better job.

Also the gameplay is slow and frustrating.
Somewhat agreed. There still are good maps and montages but since everybody has the chance to make maps and montages so easily, the good ones won't be discovered. Now internet is full of these crappy videos made by kids who are filming their TVs with cameras.

  • 04.08.2011 3:42 PM PDT
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if you think about it all the bad kids will stay in the new games just to fit in and be cool.it brings a tear to my eye to see that the new games are worse than the old one the old ones where kick ass rock star -blam!- monsters all game stations woulds kneel at halos feet and lick the master chiefs boot i cry knowing im getting old.my years have come and gone doom halo pack man all of half life unreal tournament burn out star wars games whats worse than that is that i was once a faithful bungie fan it sucks and i try to think of it from a corpret point of view but it still hits you at home.now i find my self leening torred games like crysis 2 brink and duke nukem forever

  • 04.08.2011 4:29 PM PDT

Posted by: eggos
if you think about it all the bad kids will stay in the new games just to fit in and be cool.it brings a tear to my eye to see that the new games are worse than the old one the old ones where kick ass rock star -blam!- monsters all game stations woulds kneel at halos feet and lick the master chiefs boot i cry knowing im getting old.my years have come and gone doom halo pack man all of half life unreal tournament burn out star wars games whats worse than that is that i was once a faithful bungie fan it sucks and i try to think of it from a corpret point of view but it still hits you at home.now i find my self leening torred games like crysis 2 brink and duke nukem forever
Jeez man, you're smokin' the good stuff.

  • 04.08.2011 4:41 PM PDT


Posted by: Bloodpit10
Posted by: totallymassive
Theater and Forge actually detract from the community, they are not good features. Modders in Halo 2 and montages makers in Halo 2 did a much better job.

Also the gameplay is slow and frustrating.
Somewhat agreed. There still are good maps and montages but since everybody has the chance to make maps and montages so easily, the good ones won't be discovered. Now internet is full of these crappy videos made by kids who are filming their TVs with cameras.


Lol don't even get me STARTED on Arby 'n Chief... What the -BLAM!-, DigitalPh33r? Five too many seasons, much?

  • 04.08.2011 4:52 PM PDT

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cha'mone! hee-hee!

They could disallow xbl parties in all playlists so that people use gamechat. MW2 did that.

  • 04.09.2011 9:05 AM PDT

Posted by: the cobbler

I'm not talking about gameplay my friend, I mean Community.
Gamers these days don't share the common brotherhood we all did back in the day. Its different now.


You do realize that people used to criticize the Halo 2 community back in the day, don't you? People had the same complaints that you do now, but you still had fun, didn't you?

  • 04.09.2011 12:31 PM PDT

You are right OP. Once a few years ago on Halo 1 PC some guy was acting like he was a soldier being all like "Move out! Retreat! Go go go!" And he actually made it funner. We of course defeated the other team cause of him. Then a year later there were some people starting a server saying "We haven't played this since 2004" kinda strange but, I joined and starting doing what the guy from that one game I talked about was doing. The leader said "Dude, shut up. You think this is a tactical game? This is Halo." I left. I was confused. In the one game, we were all having fun while he was doing that, talking to each other and doing that ourselves. In MW2 I started doing that and people were all like "Dude! Shut the -blam!- up!" And in a recent game of Black Ops I played, everyone was rude to each other. Man, I miss the old days of gaming. I wish everyone were like the people I played with that day, nice and fun. Now people are the opposite, rude and boring.

  • 04.09.2011 4:17 PM PDT

Heroes never die.

They are remaking Halo 1 for the 360, so they will re-create Halo 2 for the 360.

  • 04.10.2011 8:53 AM PDT

This is all so nice everyone talking about the better community, you know i think we should all get together and play halo 3. What do you guys say about that because i miss those days. Now everyone communicates by crouching on the same spot a few times. Nutters!

  • 04.10.2011 10:15 AM PDT

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