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Subject: Anyone fix Halo Universe Canon issues for themselves?


Posted by: CBrady
The first part of that is actually a really good idea. The second part if the Super Carrier had its own stealth system why wouldn't they use that more frequently or ever again?
Maybe it was expensive? Maybe it requires a lot of power? Maybe it comes equiped with Super Carriers?

We don't have enough data on the Covenant to claim anything.

[Edited on 03.14.2011 6:58 PM PDT]

  • 03.14.2011 6:53 PM PDT

still for the entire time the covenant is established as a threat theyre potrayed as win no matter the cost wipe humanity out as fast as possible race. but either way I dont think the hsip itself had a cloak only the towers kept it a secret

  • 03.14.2011 6:59 PM PDT


Posted by: CBrady
still for the entire time the covenant is established as a threat theyre potrayed as win no matter the cost wipe humanity out as fast as possible race. but either way I dont think the hsip itself had a cloak only the towers kept it a secret
I was just listing possibilities.

  • 03.14.2011 7:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: CBrady
I was wondering if anyone made an alternate timeline to counter balanance or blend Halo: Reach and The Fall of Reach by means of changing dates, disregarding information, or by other plot devices?

I wanted to know if it was fixable . Oh and also Books= Games.


I've thought about it but it usually includes disregarding Halsey's journal. I'm not saying the journal is crap (it was great) but -blam!- happens you know?

  • 03.14.2011 7:04 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Well after seeing the ending cutscene of Long Night of Solace, I really can't imagine how the Covenant fleet didn't "officially" arrive at Reach until August 30. Let alone Reach even lasting until August 30 under those circumstances. Assuming the dates in the game could be changed (I've stated them many times, but I will again)
August 28: Noble Actual, Winter Contingency, Sword Base Nightfall
August 29: Nightfall, Tip of the Spear, Long Night of Solace, Exodus, New Alexandria
August 30: The Package, Pillar of Autumn
That still leaves a lot of problems. I would change a lot that, in my opinion, would make Reach epic.

[Edited on 03.14.2011 7:17 PM PDT]

  • 03.14.2011 7:14 PM PDT

its appreciated . any solution is better then none. I've heard 343 is completely disregarding halo reach as canon is that true?

  • 03.14.2011 7:16 PM PDT


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Well after seeing the ending cutscene of Long Night of Solace, I really can't imagine how the Covenant fleet didn't "officially" arrive at Reach until August 30.
There were multiple fleets. The Fleet of Particular Justice wasn't the only one, even in the book. Chances are, the other fleets, as well as the aforementioned one, were still getting formed up. The one in the Cutscene was merely the first one to do so.

From what I'm getting, The Fleet of Particular Justice didn't arrive until the 30th.

Let alone Reach even lasting until August 30 under those circumstancesHarvest was contested for over five years.

  • 03.14.2011 7:21 PM PDT


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Well after seeing the ending cutscene of Long Night of Solace, I really can't imagine how the Covenant fleet didn't "officially" arrive at Reach until August 30. Let alone Reach even lasting until August 30 under those circumstances. Assuming the dates in the game could be changed (I've stated them many times, but I will again)
August 28: Noble Actual, Winter Contingency, Sword Base Nightfall
August 29: Nightfall, Tip of the Spear, Long Night of Solace, Exodus, New Alexandria
August 30: The Package, Pillar of Autumn
That still leaves a lot of problems. I would change a lot that, in my opinion, would make Reach epic.
Logistically, that would not be possible.

  • 03.14.2011 7:22 PM PDT


Posted by: CBrady
its appreciated . any solution is better then none. I've heard 343 is completely disregarding halo reach as canon is that true?
People claimed it on here, yet they never linked their suppossed source.

  • 03.14.2011 7:22 PM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

Posted by: Plasma3150
Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Well after seeing the ending cutscene of Long Night of Solace, I really can't imagine how the Covenant fleet didn't "officially" arrive at Reach until August 30. Let alone Reach even lasting until August 30 under those circumstances. Assuming the dates in the game could be changed (I've stated them many times, but I will again)
August 28: Noble Actual, Winter Contingency, Sword Base Nightfall
August 29: Nightfall, Tip of the Spear, Long Night of Solace, Exodus, New Alexandria
August 30: The Package, Pillar of Autumn
That still leaves a lot of problems. I would change a lot that, in my opinion, would make Reach epic.
Logistically, that would not be possible.
The first Halo game was no more than four days.

  • 03.14.2011 7:23 PM PDT

didn't 700 covenant ships attack reach? I think its stated in the rewrite

  • 03.14.2011 7:23 PM PDT


Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: Plasma3150
Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Well after seeing the ending cutscene of Long Night of Solace, I really can't imagine how the Covenant fleet didn't "officially" arrive at Reach until August 30. Let alone Reach even lasting until August 30 under those circumstances. Assuming the dates in the game could be changed (I've stated them many times, but I will again)
August 28: Noble Actual, Winter Contingency, Sword Base Nightfall
August 29: Nightfall, Tip of the Spear, Long Night of Solace, Exodus, New Alexandria
August 30: The Package, Pillar of Autumn
That still leaves a lot of problems. I would change a lot that, in my opinion, would make Reach epic.
Logistically, that would not be possible.
The first Halo game was no more than four days.
The first Halo Game was about Guerrilla Warfare, not a siege on a planetory scale resulting in a total defeat.

[Edited on 03.14.2011 7:24 PM PDT]

  • 03.14.2011 7:24 PM PDT


Posted by: CBrady
didn't 700 covenant ships attack reach? I think its stated in the rewrite
300 was the last I heard.

  • 03.14.2011 7:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: CBrady
its appreciated . any solution is better then none. I've heard 343 is completely disregarding halo reach as canon is that true?


I hope there's a video proving that. No proof, no truth.

  • 03.14.2011 7:24 PM PDT

"This plan, however, is interrupted when a massive Covenant fleet of over 700 ships enters the Epsilon Eridani System"

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_The_Fall_of_Reach

Its only in the newer release of the Fall of Reach Novel 343 changed it to make it more grand scale

  • 03.14.2011 7:29 PM PDT


Posted by: CBrady
"This plan, however, is interrupted when a massive Covenant fleet of over 700 ships enters the Epsilon Eridani System"

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_The_Fall_of_Reach

Its only in the newer release of the Fall of Reach Novel 343 changed it to make it more grand scale
It sounds like they were trying to make Hood's statement in Halo 2 to be more actual than an exasperation.

However, you would need a lot larger fleet to rapidly deploy soldiers on a planetory scale, then destroy the planet, all of which occuring in a matter of a couple days.

  • 03.14.2011 7:32 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: CBrady
"This plan, however, is interrupted when a massive Covenant fleet of over 700 ships enters the Epsilon Eridani System"

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_The_Fall_of_Reach

Its only in the newer release of the Fall of Reach Novel 343 changed it to make it more grand scale
It sounds like they were trying to make Hood's statement in Halo 2 to be more actual than an exasperation.

However, you would need a lot larger fleet to rapidly deploy soldiers on a planetory scale, then destroy the planet, all of which occuring in a matter of a couple days.


What I've read about the 700+ ships thing is that it was an error or something, as what I read said that all the rest of the instances the number of Covenant ships were mentioned it was still 314.

I'll contribute my idea of the timeline later after I've got it more organized sounding in my head.

[Edited on 03.14.2011 8:04 PM PDT]

  • 03.14.2011 8:03 PM PDT

well if it was a legitimate change in canon it would be possible to take over reach in day right?

Ive been playing with a blended story today to of how the Supr Carrier got by Reachs defenses and built a hideout. One step at a time

  • 03.15.2011 11:43 AM PDT

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Inside another dead body. It's the last place they'll look
A corpse within a corpse.
CORPSEPTION.
Win.

This summer, I'm going to attempt to re-write the first three novels (TFOR, FS, GOO but not The Flood), so as to make them tie in with Reach, since neither Bungie nor 343 managed it well.

  • 03.15.2011 12:26 PM PDT

http://www.halo-forum.com

Relevant.

  • 03.15.2011 1:18 PM PDT

i just act like every thing that was wrong didnt happen or happened differently.

  • 03.15.2011 1:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: JDYeash937 MkII
This summer, I'm going to attempt to re-write the first three novels (TFOR, FS, GOO but not The Flood), so as to make them tie in with Reach, since neither Bungie nor 343 managed it well.


I wish you luck on this grand adventure.

  • 03.15.2011 2:56 PM PDT

as do I . The flood sucks just reread it. I have high hopes for 343 because of the short stories book they released evolutions was really cool I thought

  • 03.15.2011 6:30 PM PDT

Masterchief asleep in cryo on the PoA + dumb dreams not completely unrelated to what actually just happened = Reach Campaign

  • 03.15.2011 6:56 PM PDT
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to th guy who thot that the poa was in the 66%, i think thats a huge possibilty

[Edited on 03.15.2011 7:34 PM PDT]

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