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Subject: Theories of how to rescue Hasley from Micro sphere?

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DOes anyone have an idea?

  • 03.15.2011 10:58 PM PDT
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Step 1: Find (if any) remaining Forerunners.
Step 2: Ask them. They seem to be the masters of Slipspace Bubble technology.

Other than that, unless there's another portal on another Onyx-type planet, Halsey and the Spartans are screwed.

  • 03.16.2011 1:39 AM PDT
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This is not very good theory but anyway. What we know is that it's in slipspace. It's in some location of slipspace but where? Where isn't an accurate question as there is no certain point in slipspace or technically there is but you can't use three dimensional coordinates. For example it can't be in point (324,835,-628) because those are three dimensional but if we add few numbers there (324,835,-628,955,-1,-65,99,117,-736,28). That makes ten spatial dimensions. If it was in those coordinates and someone flew there, there would be a giant sphere. Of course it's not as simple as that as humanity don't really know how to navigate in slipspace.

That's why I recommend asking Forerunners. They know more than I do.

  • 03.16.2011 2:06 AM PDT
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I am assuming they are trying to collapse the sphere from the inside ,and hope for the best. I don't fully understand the concept of a Micro Dyson Sphere.

  • 03.16.2011 2:08 AM PDT

Reprogram the portal at Voi.

  • 03.16.2011 2:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Poy Poy
I am assuming they are trying to collapse the sphere from the inside ,and hope for the best. I don't fully understand the concept of a Micro Dyson Sphere.

Concept of a micr dyson sphere is very simple. You build a shell around a star. Micro Dyson Sphere is just the structure. More information if you like reading.

What makes this hard is that the sphere is in slip space. If you just collapsed the slipspace bubble while the sphere was inside it would have catastrophic results. The sphere should be moved to normal space first and then find a way out of it or as I suggested, somehow get a rescue ship there using those 10 dimensional coordinates and then getting out of there with the ship and return to normal space.

  • 03.16.2011 2:29 AM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.


Posted by: Wolverfrog
Reprogram the portal at Voi.


Maybe if they found another Halo, caught the Monitor, make it reprogram the ancient wiring beneath the portal, we would probally enter the inside of it.

Also, Having never ead any of the books, is the Micro Dyson sphere similiar to the sphere world in Halo Wars? You know, thousands of random lakes and hills inside the fake crust?

  • 03.16.2011 2:52 AM PDT

Chuck Norris just glares at it, and it opens, after he melts all those damn Sentinels XD

In all seriousness though, I am going to guess that they'll find some Forerunners and then find out how to leave, or they'll figure a way out on their own, otherwise they'd have to form their own little colony and live out the rest of their lives there. I think they do get out though, as Halsey is giving that eulogy of sorts for Noble Six at the end of Reach after you "beat" Lone Wolf.

  • 03.16.2011 4:46 PM PDT

No new games, catching up with the world, and filling it with the name of SpazDragon, the dragon with a spas-12.

I guessing it would be explained in the rumored "Onyx sequel".

My theory is that all Forerunner technology is linked into one slipspace. Using coordinates, you could probably get there from anywhere. From Master Chief point of view, he might be able to get there if he found a portal on the Forerunner Planet.

Other suggestion, ask the Combine. The know Dimensional tunnel portals, except they'd probably kill you first.

Dude, I just came up with an awesome crossover.

Oh, and let me guess, nobody cares?

  • 03.16.2011 5:04 PM PDT


Posted by: Multijirachi

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Reprogram the portal at Voi.


Maybe if they found another Halo, caught the Monitor, make it reprogram the ancient wiring beneath the portal, we would probally enter the inside of it.

Also, Having never ead any of the books, is the Micro Dyson sphere similiar to the sphere world in Halo Wars? You know, thousands of random lakes and hills inside the fake crust?
yes but in slipspace the space between space

  • 03.16.2011 5:21 PM PDT
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Posted by: Multijirachi

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Reprogram the portal at Voi.


Maybe if they found another Halo, caught the Monitor, make it reprogram the ancient wiring beneath the portal, we would probally enter the inside of it.

Also, Having never ead any of the books, is the Micro Dyson sphere similiar to the sphere world in Halo Wars? You know, thousands of random lakes and hills inside the fake crust?

Search Dyson sphere on the internet and imagine it smaller.

  • 03.16.2011 8:02 PM PDT


Posted by: ZedFish
Step 1: Find (if any) remaining Forerunners.
Step 2: Ask them. They seem to be the masters of Slipspace Bubble technology.

Other than that, unless there's another portal on another Onyx-type planet, Halsey and the Spartans are screwed.

Well.... you could just find a forerunner ancilla. If you could do that then you could figure it out.

  • 03.16.2011 10:51 PM PDT

It works as a shell, see it as it was in Halo Wars, although with no way out and in Slipspace. I'm sure they will run into a Monitor, Forerunner, or Huragok and figure a way out.

  • 03.16.2011 10:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: tsassi2
This is not very good theory but anyway. What we know is that it's in slipspace. It's in some location of slipspace but where? Where isn't an accurate question as there is no certain point in slipspace or technically there is but you can't use three dimensional coordinates. For example it can't be in point (324,835,-628) because those are three dimensional but if we add few numbers there (324,835,-628,955,-1,-65,99,117,-736,28). That makes ten spatial dimensions. If it was in those coordinates and someone flew there, there would be a giant sphere. Of course it's not as simple as that as humanity don't really know how to navigate in slipspace.

That's why I recommend asking Forerunners. They know more than I do.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 4th dimension alone uses numbers too large for the human mind to comprehend. It might not be that simple.

  • 03.16.2011 11:01 PM PDT
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Posted by: ZedFish
Step 1: Find (if any) remaining Forerunners.
Step 2: Ask them. They seem to be the masters of Slipspace Bubble technology.

Other than that, unless there's another portal on another Onyx-type planet, Halsey and the Spartans are screwed.

Well.... you could just find a forerunner ancilla. If you could do that then you could figure it out.
Well, yes; but I'd say you'd have to find a Forerunner before you could find an Ancilla.
Or kill a Forerunner, then use it's Ancilla.
Both of those ideas are as unlikely as eachother.

  • 03.17.2011 1:22 AM PDT

In memory of those fallen in the defense of Earth and her colonies.

March 3, 2553

The only way would be for them to rescue themselves. No way to enter it from the outside.

  • 03.17.2011 3:03 AM PDT

I put the laughter in manslaughter

POP THE BUBBLE!!!

  • 03.17.2011 4:05 AM PDT

Divide by zero

  • 03.17.2011 8:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Reprogram the portal at Voi.


Quite possible considering that the Portal is still active and drawing power in 2559.

  • 03.17.2011 9:34 AM PDT
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Posted by: tsassi2
This is not very good theory but anyway. What we know is that it's in slipspace. It's in some location of slipspace but where? Where isn't an accurate question as there is no certain point in slipspace or technically there is but you can't use three dimensional coordinates. For example it can't be in point (324,835,-628) because those are three dimensional but if we add few numbers there (324,835,-628,955,-1,-65,99,117,-736,28). That makes ten spatial dimensions. If it was in those coordinates and someone flew there, there would be a giant sphere. Of course it's not as simple as that as humanity don't really know how to navigate in slipspace.

That's why I recommend asking Forerunners. They know more than I do.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the 4th dimension alone uses numbers too large for the human mind to comprehend. It might not be that simple.

If we go really technical we can't really talk about anything higher than three dimensional in normal sense. We already know that normal laws of physics don't apply in slipspace. After all, we are just beings living in a three dimensional universe (four if we count time).

We would of course need bigger numbers as the volume of an object wouldn't anymore be x,y,z multiplied by eachother but x,y,z,w multiplied by eachother. Example:

We have a 3D object which has a volume of 34x64x82=178,432.

Then we have a 4D object with volume of 34x64x82x53=9,456,896.

Then if we take a 10D object it has a volume of 34x64x82x53x17x77x26x45x39x80=22,029,433,814,868,480

That object is relatively small in size as none of it's dimensions is longer than 82. We can't really talk about volume as volume only has three dimensions. Using metric system would a real pain in the ass as it would multiply by ten million when going down in the system.

Example of what I mean:

10D object with "volume" of 1 kilometer would go like this

1 km^10
=10,000,000 hm^10
=100,000,000,000,000 dam^10
=1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 m^10
=10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 dm^10
=100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 cm^10
=1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 mm^10

and so on...

In shorter terms: Yes, more dimensions means dealing with larger numbers.

  • 03.17.2011 10:17 AM PDT

To be honest, when I first saw all this in the weekly update I thought 2 things.
#1- there is an actual legendary ending but,
#2- No matter what anyone does,(kill all the bobs, hit all switches etc) that until the "time" mentioned in "There'll be another time..." is reached there won't be a legendary ending.

The weekly update by bungie has slowed my hardcore search for what unlocks the legendary ending.

If you can find the installations monitor (smiler to 343 Guilty Spark; 2401 Penitent Tangent) and have them teleported back to the surface, much like 343 did teleporting the chief inside the index library, then your in good hands.

[Edited on 03.17.2011 10:24 AM PDT]

  • 03.17.2011 10:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: mrhalo007
If you can find the installations monitor (smiler to 343 Guilty Spark; 2401 Penitent Tangent) and have them teleported back to the surface, much like 343 did teleporting the chief inside the index library, then your in good hands.

But do Onyx and the Micro Dyson Sphere have the same monitor? If they don't have, I doupt their protocol allows them to teleport between the Micro Dyson Sphere and Onyx.

  • 03.17.2011 10:30 AM PDT

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You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

This is what rotating the 4-dimensional equivalent to a cube would look like.

Also, Hasley
That's "Halsey."

  • 03.17.2011 1:16 PM PDT


Posted by: tsassi2

Posted by: mrhalo007
If you can find the installations monitor (smiler to 343 Guilty Spark; 2401 Penitent Tangent) and have them teleported back to the surface, much like 343 did teleporting the chief inside the index library, then your in good hands.

But do Onyx and the Micro Dyson Sphere have the same monitor? If they don't have, I doupt their protocol allows them to teleport between the Micro Dyson Sphere and Onyx.


If Onyx even has a Monitor it would be tasked with the upkeep of both the Dyson Sphere and the shell around it. The Micro Dyson Sphere is a part of Onyx, the whole thing is a Shield World and would have the same Monitor if it even has one at all. I don't know if it necessarily would, we'll just have to wait and see.

  • 03.17.2011 1:41 PM PDT

If it's a shield world i would expect that there would be at least a few forerunner inside the sphere or remenants of their tech which Halsey and Jerrod could reverse engineer to tunnel a new hole in slipspace to exit the sphere. Or there could be a portal somewhere inside to access the outside in a one way system to allow people to leave but not return i.e forerunner scouts to see if the threat of flood had passed after the activation of the Halos.

  • 03.17.2011 1:57 PM PDT

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