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Subject: Events in Libya, Unrest in the Arab World And Africa UPDATE340

Posted by: Phoenix1330
The UNSC met yesterday on matters regarding Syria. Russia and China vetoed all proposed UN sanctions and action in Syria. Lebanon(a non-veto, non-permanent UNSC seat holder) also voted against all UN sanctions.

The EU regardless of no UN approval, however, has imposed financial sanctions against the Syrian Government, Canad and the US are expected to follow suit.


well, NATO can't go into Syria on its own.

basically, China and Russia just killed a couple million people (Worst case estimate, more likely in thousands). Lebanon was to be expected though...

  • 05.12.2011 2:40 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

no they can't, but a different coalition force could. setting up a command and control system for it however would prove to be a logistical nightmare. It took two and a half years to set up the last major coalition C&C in WW2

  • 05.12.2011 2:45 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Libyan Leaders will be meeting at the pentagon tomorrow.

  • 05.12.2011 4:03 PM PDT

Iran is said to be sending banned weapons to Syria

  • 05.12.2011 4:04 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

wow... not good, some of those are big mortars, and that's how they put down the last revolt there.

  • 05.12.2011 4:09 PM PDT

Assad is reported to have ordered his troops not to fire on demonstrators

  • 05.12.2011 7:10 PM PDT

:P

Foman is awesome!

1 bullet is all you need to end this all.

  • 05.12.2011 11:05 PM PDT

:P

Foman is awesome!


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330
Libyan Leaders will be meeting at the pentagon tomorrow.
Hopefully there will be a briefing after the meeting.

I read briefing as beating. I think a beating would be better honestly.

  • 05.12.2011 11:23 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Some news from last night:

Benghazi has officially opened a uniformed police department. The al Jazeera blog has a picture of the first 'class' of officers

The Canadian HMCS Charlottetown and a British ship came under fire from a swarm of about 30 loyalist fast attack craft near Misurata. The Loyalist forces were forced back to shore with no NATO casualties.

When the ICC arrest warrant goes through for Gaddafi at the end of the month, Canadian forces stationed in Tunisia will be ordered under legal obligation to move in and apprehend Gaddafi, with the full legal and military support of the coalition and the rebels. If Gaddafi flees, other countries will be obligated to arrest him and turn him over to the ICC.

In Misurata the Rebels have taken over the airbase, and have pushed out of the city about 20 km east, 12 km south and approx 35km west. Gaddafi artillery still manages to shell the port area.

In an interesting development in pre-revolution Gaddafi policy, the Libyan Government was trying to convince the African union to only sell oil for gold rather than for dollars or Euros like it currently is traded in. This would have effectively made the African Union the Richest countries in the world when it came to energy, and would collapse the north american, european and asian economies.

The Transitional National Council asks that western powers remember that the Libyan people started to fight AFTER they were fired upon, not before.

Gaddafi forces are apparently looting smaller towns where they are stationed like the town of Yefren

Four French nationals were stopped by a police checkpoint in Benghazi, one man was shot and died. The French government is investigating as to why these people were even in Libya, as they were not reporters and did not have Libyan visas.

The Rebels say that at least 11,000 people have died in the past 10 weeks of fighting.

Russia said they will veto any UN intervention in Syria, telling the Syrian opposition not to expect a repeat of a 'Libyan Scenario'

The Rebels have fully secured the western mountain range in Libya, they have dug in and set up high elevation outposts to watch and track Gaddafi forces, which they report to NATO.

A Catholic Bishop in Tripoli tells Reuters that Gaddafi has left Tripoli and was wounded by a NATO airstrike. The Gaddafi Government denies this saying that claims of Gaddafi being wounded are 'ridiculous'

Italy agrees that Gaddafi may have left Tripoli with the sudden advance of Misuratan rebels towards the city, and the introduction of Rebel cells in Tripoli, but does not think he will flee the country.




[Edited on 05.13.2011 12:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.13.2011 12:03 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

An audio broadcast from Gaddafi has him denying that he has been wounded. there were no pictures, or video of him, he does say that he has moved to a place where NATO bombs can not hit him.

  • 05.13.2011 12:05 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

The ICC is ready to issue a second round of warrants for war crimes. 3 will be issued on Monday one each for Gaddafi, his son, and the Head of espionage. These are in addition to the crimes against humanity warrant against Gaddafi, in which Canadian forces are on standby to apprehend Gaddafi for.

  • 05.13.2011 12:06 PM PDT


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330
The ICC is ready to issue a second round of warrants for war crimes. 3 will be issued on Monday one each for Gaddafi, his son, and the Head of espionage. These are in addition to the crimes against humanity warrant against Gaddafi, in which Canadian forces are on standby to apprehend Gaddafi for.
Good, boots on the ground means better results.


There isn't going to any boots on the ground...

  • 05.13.2011 12:42 PM PDT
Subject: Events in Libya, Unrest in the Arab World And Africa UPDATE343

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: ONPD

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330
The ICC is ready to issue a second round of warrants for war crimes. 3 will be issued on Monday one each for Gaddafi, his son, and the Head of espionage. These are in addition to the crimes against humanity warrant against Gaddafi, in which Canadian forces are on standby to apprehend Gaddafi for.
Good, boots on the ground means better results.


There isn't going to any boots on the ground...
to the contrary, there are Canadian Army forces on standby in Tunisia right now waiting for the arrest warrant for crimes against humanity to go through. If Gaddafi doesn't step down before the end of the month there WILL be Canadian troops in Libya on the ground.


[Edited on 05.13.2011 12:58 PM PDT]

  • 05.13.2011 12:47 PM PDT
Subject: Events in Libya, Unrest in the Arab World And Africa UPDATE343

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

The International Criminal Court.

They have so far issued 4 warrants.

1 For Gaddafi's son(no announcement on the crime)
1 for the Libyan Head of Espionage(no announcement on the crime)
and
2 for Gaddafi himself(1 for Crimes against Humanity and one with no disclosure)

The ones with no public announcement of the crime are being issued on Monday, and do not authorize foreign troops to make the arrests, but rather compel nationals of any country where the people reside to arrest them and turn them over to the ICC. The Crimes against Humanity one is the same style of warrant that would have been issued for Hitler had the ICC existed then. It essentially says that all means necessary for his apprehension are authorized.



edit and off topic: weren't you a Mythic Member before?


[Edited on 05.13.2011 1:03 PM PDT]

  • 05.13.2011 1:02 PM PDT
Subject: Events in Libya, Unrest in the Arab World And Africa UPDATE340


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330

Posted by: ONPD

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330
The ICC is ready to issue a second round of warrants for war crimes. 3 will be issued on Monday one each for Gaddafi, his son, and the Head of espionage. These are in addition to the crimes against humanity warrant against Gaddafi, in which Canadian forces are on standby to apprehend Gaddafi for.
Good, boots on the ground means better results.


There isn't going to any boots on the ground...
to the contrary, there are Canadian Amy forces on standby in Tunisia right now waiting for the arrest warrant for crimes against humanity to go through. If Gaddafi doesn't step down before the end of the month there WILL be Canadian troops in Libya on the ground.
Who issued the warrant(s)?

The International Criminal Court at the request of the UN Security Council. The ICC is a branch of the UN if I'm not mistaken.

Only the United States promised not to put boots on the ground. And that promise was directed at the American people, not the rest of the world.

  • 05.13.2011 1:05 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Dynex811

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Posted by: Phoenix1330

Posted by: ONPD

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Good, boots on the ground means better results.


There isn't going to any boots on the ground...
to the contrary, there are Canadian Amy forces on standby in Tunisia right now waiting for the arrest warrant for crimes against humanity to go through. If Gaddafi doesn't step down before the end of the month there WILL be Canadian troops in Libya on the ground.
Who issued the warrant(s)?

The International Criminal Court at the request of the UN Security Council. The ICC is a branch of the UN if I'm not mistaken.

Only the United States promised not to put boots on the ground. And that promise was directed at the American people, not the rest of the world.
Indeed, the US was the only country that flat out said no ground troops. Almost every other coalition country said that if troops were needed on the ground they would supply them.

  • 05.13.2011 1:10 PM PDT

i would expect to here before the warrant to go into effect that British and French formations to be sent in as well

  • 05.13.2011 4:16 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon

Posted by: Dynex811

Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
The ICC is ready to issue a second round of warrants for war crimes. 3 will be issued on Monday one each for Gaddafi, his son, and the Head of espionage. These are in addition to the crimes against humanity warrant against Gaddafi, in which Canadian forces are on standby to apprehend Gaddafi for.[/quote]Good, boots on the ground means better results. [/quote]

There isn't going to any boots on the ground...[/quote]to the contrary, there are Canadian Amy forces on standby in Tunisia right now waiting for the arrest warrant for crimes against humanity to go through. If Gaddafi doesn't step down before the end of the month there WILL be Canadian troops in Libya on the ground.
[/quote]Who issued the warrant(s)?

The International Criminal Court at the request of the UN Security Council. The ICC is a branch of the UN if I'm not mistaken.

Only the United States promised not to put boots on the ground. And that promise was directed at the American people, not the rest of the world.
It doesn't really matter if the U.S. commits troops or not, they're are plenty of assets in Libya.
quite true. With 40 countries participating in the coalition there will be enough force with or without the US.

  • 05.14.2011 9:26 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

NATO attacked a C&C bunker last night in Brega.

The Misuratan Rebels have secured another 20 or more tanks abandoned bay Gaddafi forces during a NATO air raid.

Gaddafi forces bomb a Mosque in Nalout

The arrested French Nationals in Benghazi were part of a military contracting team hired by Gaddafi forces.

  • 05.14.2011 12:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Phoenix1330
The Misuratan Rebels have secured another 20 or more tanks abandoned bay Gaddafi forces during a NATO air raid.


slowly building a attacking force

where have the Eastern Rebels at anyway.

  • 05.14.2011 4:51 PM PDT