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Subject: The Arab Spring, Focus on Libya, Syria and Yemen UPDATE373


Posted by: Ultermarto

Posted by: Phoenix1330

The ICC is going to try to issue yet another warrant for Gaddafi, after reports of him issuing Viagra to his soldiers to "enhance the ability to -blam!-"

D:?


What the ferk?

R u for srs? The colonel actually issued Viagra to his troops to increase their ability to fornicate? What the hell is the point? He does realise that the term '-blam!- one up' in combat simply means administering a fight? Giving viagra to his army won't halp them. I mean jesus what the -blam!-? How did this guy get into power in the first bloody place? Can't the Libyan government recognise madness?


he got into power threw a Coup d'etat of the Libyan Monarchy in 1969.

see, -blam!- as a weapon of war is to spread fear, not be combat effective in any way, we see this a lot in.... was it the Congo? i think its the Congo.

and also, not much of the Libyan Government is left in the country, most have defected by now if i understand right.

  • 06.13.2011 3:39 AM PDT
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Do not waste your tears, I was not born to watch the world grow dim. Life is not measured in years, but by the deeds of men.

Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Good to see you updating again, Phoenix. I thought this thread had died.

  • 06.13.2011 4:07 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Tippied
What do you guys think will happen after we kill Gaddafi? I also don't get why China and Russia don't want US Air Support in Syria? Can someone explain this to me?

Why is NATO and US involved in this again, i am completely lost. Theres so much -blam!- thats going down in the middle east. So heres my questions again.

1.What do you think will happen after we kill Gaddafi
2.Why is NATO and US involved in the middle east conflicts happening now?
3.Why does Russia and China disapprove of the US putting a No-Fly Zone in Syria.

I haven't been watching the news, nor paying attention lately. So i'm off track,
1. First it's important to remember we aren't trying to kill Gaddafi. If he dies in a NATO strike he is acceptable collateral damage. IF the rebels win, the G8 and a number of other countries including Qatar, and the UAE have formed a council to help the NTC to hold elections and build a new government.

2. Way back after the Rwanda incident, where peace keeping efforts failed miserably, Canada put forth a motion at the UN called 'the responsibility to protect' it said that if a country's government or people were threatening to kill hundreds or thousands of civilians, it was the UN's responsibility as a collective of major powers, to step in and save those lives, with no regard for the finacial, or political ramifications. Under this movement that passed into international law, when Gaddafi threatened to commit a 'massacre' in the town of Benghazi, the UN moved in. Also the US is part of NATO, and operational command in the Mediterranean is actually under Canada.

3. Russia and China will automatically oppose anything western powers attempt to accomplish. That said they also have close ties to the current regimes, and are afraid that if they fall, the will suffer finically.

  • 06.13.2011 6:04 AM PDT

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I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
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damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Xd00999
Good to see you updating again, Phoenix. I thought this thread had died.
I was out of the country for a week or so, back now:)

  • 06.13.2011 6:05 AM PDT

Duracell.
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but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Would it be bad if I hinted towards a DELTA OP in the wetworks?


Kind of raises questions about the SAS, JTF-2 and TF:A guys who are still over there with no news on them for almost a month

  • 06.13.2011 6:49 AM PDT

Libyan rebels claim breakout from Misrata, German FM visits Benghazi to open liaison office

Rebel says Germany recognizes Libya council

  • 06.13.2011 7:15 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

LIBYA
The Rebels have broken out of Misurata and have pushed farther towards Tripoli than ever before, passing Al Dafniya and into the outskirts of Al Zlitan, only 3 towns away from the capital.

The German Government has officially recognized the NTC as Libya's government.

Loyalists made a push on Ajdabiya though were pushed back to Brega again.

Loyalists killed 40 rebels in a bombardment of the city of Zintan in the country's south.

SYRIA
Turkey, has openly supported resolutions against Syria after the regime crushed the uprising in the town of Jisr al-Shughur. This is the First arab country to support the resolution openly.

The troops who have taken Jisr al-Shughur have turn upon each other with some refusing to commit acts they were ordered to commit.

YEMEN
The opposition has entered talks with the vice president to negotiate an exchange of power to the opposition.

  • 06.13.2011 7:58 AM PDT

i think its safe to take bets on whether or not a UN Coalition is going to go into Syria next...

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Posted by: Mereel N7
i think its safe to take bets on whether or not a UN Coalition is going to go into Syria next...


Russia and China are refusing to back anything involving Syria

  • 06.13.2011 12:38 PM PDT

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but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: MOB74656

Posted by: Mereel N7
i think its safe to take bets on whether or not a UN Coalition is going to go into Syria next...


Russia and China are refusing to back anything involving Syria
Which means that countries will likely go in without the UN resolution.

If they VETO too, it will probably be the catalyst to make a move to remove Veto power. It's just a UNSC power, not a UN total, so the UN total could vote to revoke veto from all countries with it.

  • 06.13.2011 1:05 PM PDT

Rebels capture a copy of Gaddafi's battle plan

Spoiler: Tomato as code for Sniper Ammo... that's a new one...

  • 06.13.2011 1:21 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: lonepaul2441
Ok I have heard 2 mixed things about this today from 2 different sources but i believe the BBC

Libya mission to last as long as needed - forces chief

While over at the sun

Navy chief: Libya war
is 'unsustainable'
they re-clarified, the British Naval mission is not logistically sustainable as a launch platform for longer than 3 more months, the war however, using the airbase at Naples is sustainable for as long as necessary.

Fighting a war only from the air, is expensive for naval support, if a carrier isn't present, but as an airbase is near by, British planes can fly indefinitely.

It's just the naval campaign that can't be sustained at this rate.

  • 06.14.2011 7:24 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

08:37 06/14
LIBYA
Rebels have taken control of the towns of Kikla, Dahra, Janzour, and Hay al Andalus. While they have advanced to the edge of Zawiya the rebels don't want to take the city without the people inside first rising up to avoid a conflict with tribal leaders.

The US House of Representatives has voted to prohibit the use of funds for operations in Libya. Effectively removing funds for the American campaign

YEMEN
Saleh's condition has degraded, but he is now stable.

no news from the meeting between the opposition and the loyalists.

SYRIA
10 tanks and 20 troop carriers were deployed around the town of Abu Kamal

  • 06.14.2011 7:50 AM PDT
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NATO is abusing a United Nations resolution to protect Libyan civilians from Muammar Gaddafi's forces in order to pursue regime change and political assassinations, South African President Jacob Zuma said on Tuesday.

"We have spoken out against the misuse of the good intentions in Resolution 1973," Zuma said during a budget speech in parliament.

"We strongly believe that the resolution is being abused for regime change, political assassinations and foreign military occupation." [Reuters]

Thats a shame, that the US is already pulling out of the Libyan conflict. I mean, its obvious the rebels will succeed in one way or the other, why not see it out?

  • 06.14.2011 9:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mereel N7
Rebels capture a copy of Gaddafi's battle plan

Spoiler: Tomato as code for Sniper Ammo... that's a new one...


This is all I could think of.

The US can still be in Libya. The house may have voted to get rid of funding but the Senate is a different matter. Even then, Obama can just veto it.

  • 06.14.2011 9:33 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Mai R0f1C0pt3r

Posted by: Mereel N7
Rebels capture a copy of Gaddafi's battle plan

Spoiler: Tomato as code for Sniper Ammo... that's a new one...


This is all I could think of.

The US can still be in Libya. The house may have voted to get rid of funding but the Senate is a different matter. Even then, Obama can just veto it.
it's the senate that will make the final call.

  • 06.14.2011 9:37 AM PDT
Subject: The Arab Spring, Focus on Libya, Syria and Yemen UPDATE375
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"For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future."

I have a question: How and when did it get the name "The Arab Spring"?

  • 06.14.2011 10:07 AM PDT