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Subject: Events in Libya, Unrest in the Arab World And Africa UPDATE233

Posted by: lonepaul2441

Posted by: Dynex811
Who wants the UN to intervene where? Yemen, Bahrain or Syria?
Bahrain needs help. its population is only 800,000 They won't last as long as the Libyans in a straight up fight. They are a former British Colony i honestly think we should help them out.


the RAF is tied with Libya though, and have no operational carriers to send, maybe deploy the SAS to help in some extent though...

  • 04.09.2011 8:01 AM PDT

Duracell.
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but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: lonepaul2441
Egypt's army has cracked down on protests in Cairo's symbolic Tahrir Square, leaving at least one person dead and dozens injured.

The violence occurred overnight as the army tried to clear protesters calling for ex-President Hosni Mubarak and his family to be tried for corruption.

The injured suffered gunshot wounds but the army denies using live rounds.

Tahrir Square became the symbolic centre of protests that led to Mr Mubarak stepping down this year.

Egypt's health ministry has so far confirmed that one person died overnight and says 71 people were hurt.

Medical sources told news agencies that at least two people had died.

Protesters have now returned to the square following the army withdrawal and are continuing demonstrations.
'Tantawi is Mubarak'

The army had maintained a generally neutral role in the earlier mass demonstrations.

But about 300 troops moved into the square at about 0300 local time (0100 GMT) on Saturday to break up a camp in the centre.

Protesters say they were beaten with clubs and shots were fired.

An army spokesman told Reuters news agency that only blanks were used.
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Analysis
image of Yolande Knell Yolande Knell BBC News, Cairo

This is the latest worrying sign of tensions between the ruling military and supporters of the 25 January revolution who are becoming increasingly impatient with the pace of change.

There is growing anger that remnants of the former government, including the ousted President Hosni Mubarak and his family, have not been charged with corruption. Some blame the former Defence Minister, Field Marshal Tantawi, who is head of the Supreme Military Council. He was very close to Mr Mubarak.

Reports that the army has arrested and tortured demonstrators that have circulated in recent weeks and the fact that military trials continue add to the mistrust.

The armed forces insist they were simply enforcing a curfew when they moved into Tahrir Square overnight and that they are meeting their promises of reforms and justice.

The military issued a statement blaming "outlaws" for rioting and violating a curfew but said no-one was hurt.

"The armed forces stress that they will not tolerate any acts of rioting or any act that harms the interest of the country and the people," it said.
this is not good news

  • 04.09.2011 10:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Phoenix1330

Posted by: lonepaul2441
Egypt's army has cracked down on protests in Cairo's symbolic Tahrir Square, leaving at least one person dead and dozens injured.

The violence occurred overnight as the army tried to clear protesters calling for ex-President Hosni Mubarak and his family to be tried for corruption.

The injured suffered gunshot wounds but the army denies using live rounds.

Tahrir Square became the symbolic centre of protests that led to Mr Mubarak stepping down this year.

Egypt's health ministry has so far confirmed that one person died overnight and says 71 people were hurt.

Medical sources told news agencies that at least two people had died.

Protesters have now returned to the square following the army withdrawal and are continuing demonstrations.
'Tantawi is Mubarak'

The army had maintained a generally neutral role in the earlier mass demonstrations.

But about 300 troops moved into the square at about 0300 local time (0100 GMT) on Saturday to break up a camp in the centre.

Protesters say they were beaten with clubs and shots were fired.

An army spokesman told Reuters news agency that only blanks were used.
Continue reading the main story
Analysis
image of Yolande Knell Yolande Knell BBC News, Cairo

This is the latest worrying sign of tensions between the ruling military and supporters of the 25 January revolution who are becoming increasingly impatient with the pace of change.

There is growing anger that remnants of the former government, including the ousted President Hosni Mubarak and his family, have not been charged with corruption. Some blame the former Defence Minister, Field Marshal Tantawi, who is head of the Supreme Military Council. He was very close to Mr Mubarak.

Reports that the army has arrested and tortured demonstrators that have circulated in recent weeks and the fact that military trials continue add to the mistrust.

The armed forces insist they were simply enforcing a curfew when they moved into Tahrir Square overnight and that they are meeting their promises of reforms and justice.

The military issued a statement blaming "outlaws" for rioting and violating a curfew but said no-one was hurt.

"The armed forces stress that they will not tolerate any acts of rioting or any act that harms the interest of the country and the people," it said.
this is not good news


we don't need a Rebellion in Egypt now, is their Military Council awake?

  • 04.09.2011 10:21 AM PDT
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Damn, that sucks.

Why dont they just give Mubarak a nice public trial to keep the public happy?

  • 04.09.2011 10:38 AM PDT


Posted by: chucky chief
Damn, that sucks.

Why dont they just give Mubarak a nice public trial to keep the public happy?

If they aren't prepared to jail or execute him, it would only make things worse. Maybe exile would be the best option.

  • 04.09.2011 10:41 AM PDT

A Libyan opposition group wants the US to grant immediate access to Gaddafi's frozen assets to pay for humanitarian needs in rebel-held areas. That would be $32 billion.

A helicopter with the rebel flag painted on it has been seen flying very low near Ajdabiya despite a UN imposed no-fly zone.

  • 04.09.2011 10:49 AM PDT


Posted by: lonepaul2441

Posted by: Dynex811
A Libyan opposition group wants the US to grant immediate access to Gaddafi's frozen assets to pay for humanitarian needs in rebel-held areas. That would be $32 billion.
that sounds like a good idea

Yeah, it would hurt Gadaffi and help the rebels. Plus it's a giant middle finger haha. I'm just not sure that's legal.

  • 04.09.2011 10:55 AM PDT


Posted by: lonepaul2441

Posted by: Dynex811
A Libyan opposition group wants the US to grant immediate access to Gaddafi's frozen assets to pay for humanitarian needs in rebel-held areas. That would be $32 billion.
that sounds like a good idea

  • 04.09.2011 10:56 AM PDT

Posted by: Dynex811

Posted by: lonepaul2441

Posted by: Dynex811
A Libyan opposition group wants the US to grant immediate access to Gaddafi's frozen assets to pay for humanitarian needs in rebel-held areas. That would be $32 billion.
that sounds like a good idea

Yeah, it would hurt Gadaffi and help the rebels. Plus it's a giant middle finger haha. I'm just not sure that's legal.


Obama said it would go to the Libyan people, may as well do it early

  • 04.09.2011 10:59 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Mereel N7
Posted by: Dynex811

Posted by: lonepaul2441

Posted by: Dynex811
A Libyan opposition group wants the US to grant immediate access to Gaddafi's frozen assets to pay for humanitarian needs in rebel-held areas. That would be $32 billion.
that sounds like a good idea

Yeah, it would hurt Gadaffi and help the rebels. Plus it's a giant middle finger haha. I'm just not sure that's legal.


Obama said it would go to the Libyan people, may as well do it early
would require the US to officially recognize the rebels as the legitimate government of Libya though.

  • 04.09.2011 11:28 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

A Youth group held an anti-Gaddafi rally in Tripoli this morning

  • 04.09.2011 11:30 AM PDT

Posted by: Phoenix1330
A Youth group held an anti-Gaddafi rally in Tripoli this morning


why do i get the feeling that ended in a horrible fashion...

  • 04.09.2011 11:36 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

on the note of the Helicopter seen over Ajdabiya with rebel flags on it:

Shortly after it was seen, there were airstrikes on the City of Ajdabiya. NATO denies having made any strikes in the area, The rebels also deny the helicopter was theirs.

  • 04.09.2011 11:37 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: Mereel N7
Posted by: Phoenix1330
A Youth group held an anti-Gaddafi rally in Tripoli this morning


why do i get the feeling that ended in a horrible fashion...
no other news on that one yet. just saw the video of them announcing it. they had their faces covered...

  • 04.09.2011 11:37 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

There have been NATO airstrikes within the city of Misurata's southern outskirts.

  • 04.09.2011 11:39 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Rebels are preparing for a major battle to repel Gaddafi in Brega

  • 04.09.2011 12:02 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

NATO intercepted and forced a Rebel Mig to land near Benghazi. No aggressive action was taken by either side.

  • 04.09.2011 12:05 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Major Battle has been joined between Brega and Ajdabiya, on a battle field over 80 km long. Gaddafi and Rebel forces are fighting inside both towns.

  • 04.09.2011 12:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Phoenix1330
Major Battle has been joined between Brega and Ajdabiya, on a battle field over 80 km long. Gaddafi and Rebel forces are fighting inside both towns.


Where the hell is the NATO airsupport?

  • 04.09.2011 2:26 PM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Phoenix1330
NATO intercepted and forced a Rebel Mig to land near Benghazi. No aggressive action was taken by either side.

What model of MiG are we talking about here?

  • 04.09.2011 2:54 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.


Posted by: That Atheist
Posted by: Phoenix1330
NATO intercepted and forced a Rebel Mig to land near Benghazi. No aggressive action was taken by either side.

What model of MiG are we talking about here?
Mig-23

  • 04.09.2011 4:43 PM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

NATO operated outside of Misurata, Ajdabiya and Tripoli destroying 17 tanks, stopping 9 and destroying the supply line for Gaddafi forces to Misurata.

  • 04.09.2011 4:45 PM PDT