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I loved it. Very interesteing stuff.

I have a few questions in regards to what I may have read in terminals and other media about Halo.

Mainly, Medicant Bias was missing for 40+ Years, with a Halo and the final Precursor.
I thought I read somewhere that Bias went missing for decades when fighting the flood?
Unless the Precursors and the flood are one in the same?


Also: Bornstellar becomes the new Didact because he was imprinted with everything the Didact is..but why did it take him over essentially to the point where the lbirarian viewed him as the same?
Bornstellar didn't view his father as the same as the Master Builder even though the Master Builders imprint was on Bornstellar's father.
So why was Bornstellars different?

  • 03.19.2011 10:10 PM PDT

I wake up to find myself
After all these years
And where all the time has gone
Still seems so unclear

1: He never did fight the flood. He just talked to the Gravemind for years. The Gravemind never did tell him who he was. Gravemind manipulated Bias into thinking his creators forgot him and then corrupted his thoughts more by slowly lying to him so he'd believe that the Flood were the next biological step in Evolution. He logic'd Bias into betrayal with lies.

2: From my understanding, Bornstellar was different because Didact and him were from different castes. That, and they did an impromptu imprint. Or he wasn't "ready" and his mind was easily imprinted upon.

  • 03.19.2011 10:55 PM PDT

I see, so could it be argued that the Didact took over Bornstellars body at the end? Or is Bornstellar still in there?

  • 03.19.2011 10:59 PM PDT


Posted by: DoubleP1243
I see, so could it be argued that the Didact took over Bornstellars body at the end? Or is Bornstellar still in there?
I'd say it is now mostly Didact with some or Born mixed up in their. He's probably a little less mature than the first Didact.

  • 03.19.2011 11:03 PM PDT

By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.

Posted by: DoubleP1243
I see, so could it be argued that the Didact took over Bornstellars body at the end? Or is Bornstellar still in there?


The Didact performed a berevet mutation on Born, this allowed him access to the Domain. Before the original Didact was killed by Faber, he transferred all his thoughts, feelings and knowledge to Born which essentially makes him Didact 2.0.

So yes, he's still very much Bornstellar, but he has all the influence and knowledge of the Didact within him.

[Edited on 03.20.2011 6:53 AM PDT]

  • 03.20.2011 6:52 AM PDT

Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.

  • 03.20.2011 7:25 AM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.


Cool,if i remember correctly did the Forerunners had all 7 rings at the end of the book?If so then the captive is before their nose hiding on 05.

Great find!

  • 03.20.2011 7:59 AM PDT

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Mendicant Bias was sent, along with a Halo, to investigate the source of the Flood. What he found was the Gravemind. Most of us here have made the assumption that the Gravemind and the Prisoner are one in the same.

Bornstellar becomes the new Didact not because of the mutation, but because afterward the Didact dumped all of his memories into Bornstellar.

  • 03.20.2011 8:14 AM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.


Dude! My friend and reached almost the exact same conclusion today! Haha, wow, great minds think alike.

  • 03.20.2011 2:23 PM PDT


Posted by: hotshot revan II

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.


Cool,if i remember correctly did the Forerunners had all 7 rings at the end of the book?If so then the captive is before their nose hiding on 05.

Great find!


There were 11 at the Forerunner homeworld I believe (it might actually been 11 in total in which case the 11th would be with Mendicant) and then Mendicant and the missing ring turned up. And the I believe six of the Halos made it through the portal to the Ark and all the rest except for Mendicant's were destroyed in the fighting, as his ring was hanging back from the fighting I believe.

  • 03.20.2011 2:25 PM PDT


Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.


Dude! My friend and reached almost the exact same conclusion today! Haha, wow, great minds think alike.


Awesome XD

  • 03.20.2011 3:01 PM PDT


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: ROBERTO jh
Interestingly, I found this while reading Halopedian about Medicant.

"The "05" in his identification number may signify that he was placed in charge of Installation 05 during his testing mission, as 343 Guilty Spark, the monitor of Installation 04, is identified as "04-343" in Forerunner communication records."

And what Halo was the Gravemind found on? Installation 05. And if this theory is true, then that means the Precursor Captive was taken by Medicant onto installation 05.

It is safe to say now that the Captive and Gravemind are one in the same.

Also not: the Precursors are not the Flood. The Gravemind IS the Flood. It is likely the Captive created the Flood as a revenge weapon against the Forerunners, but the other Precursors locked him up because it went against the Mantle.


Dude! My friend and reached almost the exact same conclusion today! Haha, wow, great minds think alike.


Awesome XD


Haha, yeah XD

I wonder how accurate this theory is, I guess we'll just have to wait and see, though usually my guesses turn out to be fairly close to the truth or I've guessed it exactly.

  • 03.20.2011 3:32 PM PDT