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Subject: So what happened to new york when earth was attacked by the covenant?

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Theory: New York gets f'd up.

  • 03.22.2011 11:41 AM PDT

Accoridng to the Halo Encylopedia and ghost of onyx the covenant landed all over the world, and half of the human population was wipped out. Now as far as fighting in New York I dont know of a battle, but that doesn't mean there was one. I am sure it hard fought battle becuse this is Earth after all.

  • 03.22.2011 1:00 PM PDT
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Posted by: ZachUSAman
Posted by: mojeda101
False, 5 other colonies were untouched and never found, one of them holding 500 million, the human population was well over 1 billion by the end of the war.


well over 1 billion...
you do realize that we are at 6 billion right now on our single little planet right?
1 billion is dropping humanity back easily 600 years in terms of population
Actually only about 100 years. Amazingly enough.

  • 03.22.2011 3:10 PM PDT
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Well i don't know about new york, but by this trailer i can surely tell you that california gets -blam!- up.

  • 03.22.2011 3:12 PM PDT

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Wasn't there a major ONI base in New York? Dunno if it was mentioned in this thread before, sure I heard that somewhere!

That would make it a major target!

  • 03.22.2011 5:07 PM PDT

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  • 03.22.2011 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
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To all those that have mentioned Fan Fiction! Where are you guys posting these? Would love to read some!

And now back to the topic...
I'm still writing it, I'm not going to post it in The Gallery until it's finished. It will be a collection of short stories, gathering views of the Battle of New York from all angles including civilians, soldiers, police officers and government officials to name a few.


Although the story is subtle, that point of view has been done to many times. All aspects have been repeatdely slaughtered by wannabes, resulting in a good story about an ODST to turn to rubble. Maybe you can do it from a rampant AI's point of view?

  • 03.22.2011 6:17 PM PDT

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Agreed. I don't want any Spartans in the story. Anyhow, Megamuffin, how should we go about doing this?
Hmm. Good question. I suppose we could always collaborate over PMs, but that would be far too slow.

I'm also a "somewhat" good drawer. I plan to draw some "concept art" for it.

That's awesome! I wish I could draw. lol. I look forward to takin' a look at 'em.

  • 03.22.2011 6:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dedworth Mean
Wasn't there a major ONI base in New York? Dunno if it was mentioned in this thread before, sure I heard that somewhere!

That would make it a major target!
No one knows for sure, but currently the UN headquarters is in New York. So some have theorized that the UNSC capital is New York.

  • 03.22.2011 6:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
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That would actually be an awesome idea.
I agree. But I don't think many people would be surviving. I'm trying very hard to flesh out what civilian life is like in 2552. It's a pretty grim world.

In addition, I'm also attempting to flesh out the City as a character itself, kind of like how Bungie tried to give life to New Mombasa in ODST. All I really have so far is that the Empire State Building is dwarfed compared to the other buildings in the city, and that New York City now stretches through all of New Jersey, all of Connecticut, a fair portion of upstate New York, a bit of Pennsylvania, and all of Long Island.


If I were in your posistion here, I would make New York either are city in decline, older tech (similar to how declining countries work), etc. Perhaps some ODST's were dropped there to help with some basic civilian evacs from the subways or something like that....just a thought

  • 03.22.2011 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
Posted by: CTN 0452 9
There is no canonical reference to the Covenant ever landing in New York.

For those who said that all of the Covenant activity was in New Mombasa, there was a battle of Cleveland, as well as other engagements mentioned in other places.

After the war, the Human population in the Galaxy was estimated at 200 million. That would mean that most of the people one Earth were wiped out.


False, 5 other colonies were untouched and never found, one of them holding 500 million, the human population was well over 1 billion by the end of the war.

Actually at the end the human population on Earth along was 700 million.

  • 03.22.2011 6:53 PM PDT

What a waste....


Posted by: Najar
Well i don't know about new york, but by this trailer i can surely tell you that california gets -blam!- up.
That's the one!

  • 03.22.2011 7:02 PM PDT

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Posted by: Signal Lost 333
If I were in your posistion here, I would make New York either are city in decline, older tech (similar to how declining countries work), etc. Perhaps some ODST's were dropped there to help with some basic civilian evacs from the subways or something like that....just a thought
I'm going to write several short stories taking place all over the city. Lower Manhattan will be magnificent, a glorious and beautiful city gleaming and basking in the light of human accomplishment. However the farther you go from Manhattan whilst in the city, the more underdeveloped, crime ridden and slum like it becomes. This is because of all the unmarked colonial refugees (illegal immigrants, technically) sneaking aboard cargo ships and hitching a ride to Earth.

  • 03.22.2011 7:07 PM PDT

nothing happened in north america. most people just laid low while truth excavated the portal. and after he left, the rest of the human and sepratist fleets that were left just defended it.

  • 03.22.2011 7:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: matchstick800
nothing happened in north america. most people just laid low while truth excavated the portal. and after he left, the rest of the human and sepratist fleets that were left just defended it.

Wrong. Cleveland was attacked in the US was attacked.

  • 03.22.2011 7:31 PM PDT

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I hope nothing drastic happen to New YorK that would be crazy. Also wanted to say I am also from New York and in the city too. Everyone that is from the city show your colors!!!
I am also making a machinima and its a series base in New York after the events of halo 3.

  • 03.22.2011 7:39 PM PDT
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  • 03.22.2011 7:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Drew Sin
I hope nothing drastic happen to New YorK that would be crazy. Also wanted to say I am also from New York and in the city too. Everyone that is from the city show your colors!!!
I am also making a machinima and its a series base in New York after the events of halo 3.
Hell yeah NYers ftw!! *hi fives*

  • 03.22.2011 8:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: Drew Sin
I hope nothing drastic happen to New YorK that would be crazy. Also wanted to say I am also from New York and in the city too. Everyone that is from the city show your colors!!!
I am also making a machinima and its a series base in New York after the events of halo 3.
Hell yeah NYers ftw!! *hi fives*
Ah, thats why you were so inclined to protect New York that one day...

  • 03.22.2011 9:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: MegaMuffin16
Posted by: Drew Sin
I hope nothing drastic happen to New YorK that would be crazy. Also wanted to say I am also from New York and in the city too. Everyone that is from the city show your colors!!!
I am also making a machinima and its a series base in New York after the events of halo 3.
Hell yeah NYers ftw!! *hi fives*
Ah, thats why you were so inclined to protect New York that one day...
Let's not relive that battle. I lost more than my soldiers that day...

  • 03.22.2011 9:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Najar
Well i don't know about new york, but by this trailer i can surely tell you that california gets -blam!- up.

That's the entire thing.

  • 03.22.2011 9:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: antonio iz 217
I was raised in New York and I love that place. So I was kinda wondering, where there any spartan engagements there? Its possible if UNSC used spartan 3 teams that got MJOLNIR rated like noble team. Just wondering was there some epic spartan engagement there or was it just destroyed easily with weak UNSC forces fighting and getting pwoned easily and humiliatingly?

And since I love NY so much I'll accept non canon machinima just please tell me something awesome happened there.


Well, from Halo 3 we get this:

Commander Keyes: "The Prophet of Truth's ships breached the Lunar perimeter. Smashed what was left of the Home Fleet. Terrestrial casualties from the subsequent bombardment were... extreme.
Truth could've landed anywhere, but he committed all his forces here. East Africa. The ruins of New Mombasa. Then, they started digging."

So it seems likely it got battered from orbit like most of the rest of Earth, The only major deployment of Covenant ground forces seems to have ben in East Africa. This doesn't rule out smaller-scale ground actions though.

  • 03.23.2011 8:10 AM PDT
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Nothing, the Covenant only landed/invaded in New Mombasa Africa and a orbital elevator tower near South America I believe.

Nope

The First Battle of Earth is told in Ghosts of Onyx but I don't remember it mentioning New York.


the entire battle for eath is also told in the halo encyclopedia and through other media, which states that a very large portion of earths population was wiped out.


...Or evacuated.

  • 03.23.2011 8:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Wazooty
Posted by: S2 Black 0ut
Posted by: spartain ken 15
Nothing, the Covenant only landed/invaded in New Mombasa Africa and a orbital elevator tower near South America I believe.

Nope

The First Battle of Earth is told in Ghosts of Onyx but I don't remember it mentioning New York.


the entire battle for eath is also told in the halo encyclopedia and through other media, which states that a very large portion of earths population was wiped out.

...Or evacuated.

The population was numbered in the "billions", and then was subsequently cut in half in the hours after Regret showed up. That implies that at least 1 billion were either killed or evacuated. Evacuating 1 billion unprepared people in a matter of hours would be a logistical impossibility given the UNSC's predicament.

Granted, I am not sure how only 15 vessels, most of which were probably smashed by the defence grid, were able to deal that much damage in such a small time frame given the retcon to the Covenants glassing ability. Vessels must have been slipping in under the SMACs immediately after Regret showed up, like before ODST even finishes.

  • 03.23.2011 10:38 AM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
there was a battle of Cleveland, as well as other engagements mentioned in other places.


I don't see why. We should have just cut our losses and let Cleveland and Detroit go. The covenant would have been doing us a favor. lol.

  • 03.23.2011 12:07 PM PDT

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