By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe.
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Posted by: Richomack360
People really do have problems letting go of characters claiming they are alive....firstly we had Jorge, Noble 6 then Johnson, now Thom.
All their deaths were shown on screen.....this is nothing like Elvis.[/quote]
For all intents and purposes, yeah, Jorge is dead, but it is highly likely that he could be brought back if 343 felt like bringing him back. All he did was fire up a randomized Slipspace vector, there's at least a 50% chance of survival, but unless 343/Bungie actually says otherwise, he is indeed dead. Though that won't stop fanfic writers who need an interesting idea (hehe, myself included).
No way at all Jorge could have survived. Even if he managed to live through entry, there's no oxygen in slipspace and MJOLNIR Mark V only has 90 minutes of oxygen reserves. Plus the fact that slipspace drives require constant maintainence, and they're certainly not designed to be used as makeshift bombs.
Also, the Ardent Prayer would no longer exist as the blast's epicenter was inside the ship (when it is supposed to be in front of the bow).
The Corvette would have oxygen, it's not like a ship automatically depressurizes or something when it goes into Slipspace. We've never seen the end results of a slipspace drive working like it did in Reach. Actually I think the Ardent Prayer would still be perfectly in tact, or mostly, I don't know if the Super Carrier debris would crash into it while in Slipspace or anything, but it should still be perfectly in tact from the transition.
The whole theory here seems to hinge on whether the Ardent Prayer manages to survive entry. I for one, do not believe it did, since slipspace is essentially ripping a hole in space the portal is going to expand from within the Corvette and envelop it. If this is true, there would be no more Ardent Prayer, therefore no more oxygen, as a result no more Jorge.
How do you mean that they "need constant maintenance"? You don't need to mess with it at all except to get out, I don't even know if you need to do that. But you don't need to do any tweaks or anything to get out, why would you need to, and what source says that it has to be done?
If the Ardent Prayer wouldn't survive the way it transitioned, then no ship would, they always go through it a bit at a time, the only difference between the Ardent Prayer and any normal usage of a Slipsapce drive is that the portal was opened inside the ship instead of outside. I don't see why having it inside would make such a huge difference.
I recall the information from Contact Harvest and Ghosts of Onyx. Were a slipspace drive to be improperly mounted it can cause all kinds of disasters (like Kat mentions about the incident at Cygnus). A slipspace drive not properly used creates "splinters" in normal space, eventually consuming the drive and the entire ship which the drive was placed on (which is what happened at Cygnus and is what Kat intended to recrate).
I don't really believe that Jorge is alive, but there is enough of a random chance that he could easily be brought back without creating some ultra lame excuse.
Methinks the developers will have the sense to leave him alone, the whole purpose of his character (and for that matter, all of Noble Team) was that they sacrifice themselves for Reach. Having some twist where they survive would completely disregard the point of this particular theme.