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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101

There aren't any "gaps" between Reach and Halo CE, if there were they would be tiny gaps that shouldn't even be messed with becuase we would get pissed.


I was referring to the additional bits the OP stated. You bet there are, there's plenty of other things that happened between both games.

That will be relevant or worth telling?

Nearly everybody on the PoA is in cryo, And the "Real" battle of reach is starting planetside.

I truly don't see the point of doing anything in that narrow space unless it is going to be based on something we know but don't have in game form (CASTLE BASE).
Other than that i don't see the need for unneeded additions that are going to make a precise timeline that will only them be messed up later with the introduction or removal of something that will then cause issues with the established timeline.

Which is what happened With the Game version of Reach.

  • 03.23.2011 12:50 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Evil Johnny


I was referring to the additional bits the OP stated. You bet there are, there's plenty of other things that happened between both games.

That will be relevant or worth telling?

Nearly everybody on the PoA is in cryo, And the "Real" battle of reach is starting planetside.

I truly don't see the point of doing anything in that narrow space unless it is going to be based on something we know but don't have in game form (CASTLE BASE).
Other than that i don't see the need for unneeded additions that are going to make a precise timeline that will only them be messed up later with the introduction or removal of something that will then cause issues with the established timeline.

Which is what happened With the Game version of Reach.


Huh? Did you read the thread? The OP never talked about fighting aboard the PoA. There's plenty material happening around the end of Reach that is worth playing, deepening the story of the game. Not only didn't he talk about playing aboard the PoA except if they were remaking Halo CE at the same time, but he referenced the maps Certain Affinity made for the Defiant map pack.

  • 03.23.2011 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Evil Johnny


I was referring to the additional bits the OP stated. You bet there are, there's plenty of other things that happened between both games.

That will be relevant or worth telling?

Nearly everybody on the PoA is in cryo, And the "Real" battle of reach is starting planetside.

I truly don't see the point of doing anything in that narrow space unless it is going to be based on something we know but don't have in game form (CASTLE BASE).
Other than that i don't see the need for unneeded additions that are going to make a precise timeline that will only them be messed up later with the introduction or removal of something that will then cause issues with the established timeline.

Which is what happened With the Game version of Reach.


Huh? Did you read the thread? The OP never talked about fighting aboard the PoA. There's plenty material happening around the end of Reach that is worth playing, deepening the story of the game. Not only didn't he talk about playing aboard the PoA except if they were remaking Halo CE at the same time, but he referenced the maps Certain Affinity made for the Defiant map pack.


I Read the thread and the OP, but i was under the impression that a Remake of a game would be just that, a remake. Reach doesn't Have nearly anything thing to do with the events during halo CE other than the fact they left reach and returned to reach. Other than that they are two different story's that add up to halo's story.

The PoA left before the battle of reach honestly even started, so it wouldn't make sense for the Remake to have any levels dealing with reach seeing we know all the events that are taking place. Further more the ending should be about the game not another one, just like reach was about noble 6 despite hoe badly we wanted it to jump to MC in the future.

If you want more Reach campagin content then it should belong to reach (which won't happen). A remake of Halo CE shouldn't flip flop between reach and CE, Especially if it is the game version of reach.

  • 03.23.2011 1:19 PM PDT
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  • 03.23.2011 1:23 PM PDT
Subject: Halo CE Remake not what we think it is? (Long read)


Posted by: grey101

I Read the thread and the OP, but i was under the impression that a Remake of a game would be just that, a remake. Reach doesn't Have nearly anything thing to do with the events during halo CE other than the fact they left reach and returned to reach. Other than that they are two different story's that add up to halo's story.

The PoA left before the battle of reach honestly even started, so it wouldn't make sense for the Remake to have any levels dealing with reach seeing we know all the events that are taking place. Further more the ending should be about the game not another one, just like reach was about noble 6 despite hoe badly we wanted it to jump to MC in the future.

If you want more Reach campagin content then it should belong to reach (which won't happen). A remake of Halo CE shouldn't flip flop between reach and CE, Especially if it is the game version of reach.


Well, he was talking about the remake being both that and an expansion to Reach. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to throw additional levels with the MC before he gets aboard the PoA. It doesn't have to start immediately after N6 dies or anything, just a short alternate view of what's happening at a particular moment or two. You could even play another spartan and switch to MC afterwards. Ok, if we forget Halo CE, I think our biggest chance to see a Reach expansion would be as an event DURING the game, but with other characters. Playing the MC on Reach would only makes sense to me. And throwing this with an Halo CE remake would be neat.

  • 03.23.2011 2:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

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Posted by: Evil Johnny

Posted by: grey101

I Read the thread and the OP, but i was under the impression that a Remake of a game would be just that, a remake. Reach doesn't Have nearly anything thing to do with the events during halo CE other than the fact they left reach and returned to reach. Other than that they are two different story's that add up to halo's story.

The PoA left before the battle of reach honestly even started, so it wouldn't make sense for the Remake to have any levels dealing with reach seeing we know all the events that are taking place. Further more the ending should be about the game not another one, just like reach was about noble 6 despite hoe badly we wanted it to jump to MC in the future.

If you want more Reach campagin content then it should belong to reach (which won't happen). A remake of Halo CE shouldn't flip flop between reach and CE, Especially if it is the game version of reach.


Well, he was talking about the remake being both that and an expansion to Reach. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to throw additional levels with the MC before he gets aboard the PoA. It doesn't have to start immediately after N6 dies or anything, just a short alternate view of what's happening at a particular moment or two. You could even play another spartan and switch to MC afterwards. Ok, if we forget Halo CE, I think our biggest chance to see a Reach expansion would be as an event DURING the game, but with other characters. Playing the MC on Reach would only makes sense to me. And throwing this with an Halo CE remake would be neat.



1. "I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to throw additional levels with the MC before he gets aboard the PoA. "

What is it going to be about? The Gamma space op? I doubt 343 would do that seeing how that deals with the actual story of reach and some people like to imagen the events rather than play them out. ( I am not one of those people). Even so that deals with reach, not Halo CE.

2. "You could even play another spartan and switch to MC afterwards."

And this deals with CE how?


"Playing the MC on Reach would only makes sense to me. And throwing this with an Halo CE remake would be neat"

It seems you just want a fun "remake" that wouldn't have anything to do with the game that was suppose to be re-made. I have no issues with a remake of halo CE if it is an Actual Remake, not a new Halo 1 with new additions that people want just for fun or just to want something and then say that is canon.

A "Remake" to me is updating graphics, and adding relevant content that was cut for time reasons. I wouldn't mind co-op online but i don't support online matchmaking, and only firefight if it is more updated and better than reach's addition.


That is a Remake to me, not slaping Halo CE on the cover and having it mostly or mainly deal with reach.

  • 03.23.2011 2:22 PM PDT

So you went to the trouble of clicking on my profile, either to send a group invite or hate message, or to check my Halo stats and call me a BK. I like Peanut Butter Waffles.

I remember seeing something where Frankie said 343 will be doing something "special" for the tenth anniversary of Halo CE.

  • 03.23.2011 2:25 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Evil Johnny

Well, he was talking about the remake being both that and an expansion to Reach. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to throw additional levels with the MC before he gets aboard the PoA. It doesn't have to start immediately after N6 dies or anything, just a short alternate view of what's happening at a particular moment or two. You could even play another spartan and switch to MC afterwards. Ok, if we forget Halo CE, I think our biggest chance to see a Reach expansion would be as an event DURING the game, but with other characters. Playing the MC on Reach would only makes sense to me. And throwing this with an Halo CE remake would be neat.



1. "I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be able to throw additional levels with the MC before he gets aboard the PoA. "

What is it going to be about? The Gamma space op? I doubt 343 would do that seeing how that deals with the actual story of reach and some people like to imagen the events rather than play them out. ( I am not one of those people). Even so that deals with reach, not Halo CE.

2. "You could even play another spartan and switch to MC afterwards."

And this deals with CE how?


"Playing the MC on Reach would only makes sense to me. And throwing this with an Halo CE remake would be neat"

It seems you just want a fun "remake" that wouldn't have anything to do with the game that was suppose to be re-made. I have no issues with a remake of halo CE if it is an Actual Remake, not a new Halo 1 with new additions that people want just for fun or just to want something and then say that is canon.

A "Remake" to me is updating graphics, and adding relevant content that was cut for time reasons. I wouldn't mind co-op online but i don't support online matchmaking, and only firefight if it is more updated and better than reach's addition.


That is a Remake to me, not slaping Halo CE on the cover and having it mostly or mainly deal with reach.



I think you're misunderstanding my post. First of all, I said that the non CE part would be short, a small tidbit, expansion thingy to showcase more of the battle of Reach and/or the MC, INCLUDED with the WHOLE Halo CE. So it wouldn't be "slapping Halo CE on the cover having it mostly or mainly deal with Reach", the contrary. It would be like the Halo books represses, fancy new cover and some additional writing thrown at the back of the whole thing. It would have everything to do with Halo CE if it consists of what happens to MC before he gets aboard the PoA, before the Halo game. It would both be some sort of an extension to MC's original adventure and a small prequel. Even if it doesn't deal with the MC at some point, so what? Would you really be pissed that you get more content? Who cares if it doesn't deal with the MC or directly with Halo CE, it's still new stuff that could be cool.

Plus, I'm only expressing my thoughts on what the OP said, I'm not throwing out suggestions, but what I think could happen based on what he said. In fact, pretty much everything you have against what I said were introduced by the OP, not me, quote him instead. Again, it's about a REACH expansion being both that and a real Halo CE remake, bridging Reach and CE in a different way. If you just want a Halo CE remake, you'd STILL get it. You know, you could always ignore Firefight or matchmaking, why wouldn't you ignore other content like this which you don't want? Hell, people even ignore the campaign.

Okay, now I never said I didn't want Halo not to be a real remake, but adding extra missions BEFORE the whole thing, well where's the harm? It would be the same thing as remaking the game with only graphical enhancements and throw in Halo 2 with it. The inclusion of Halo 2 does not make the Halo CE remake not a real remake, same thing for the additional missions.

If you don't want stuff from the books, that's your problem, 343 don't have to cater to your desires. Again, we're not suggesting anything, we're only speculating. Besides, content from the books have already been made. The gamma station and the spartan training ground were made, maybe there's people who are not satisfied or irritated by this. 343 didn't care and still made them, why wouldn't they make an expansion out of it? And again, we're talking about something that deals with both Halo Reach and CE, not CE solely.

  • 03.23.2011 2:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?

I just don't understand the point of mixing Reach DLc along with a "remake" of Halo CE.

We don't need Extra missions, we don't need new characters, We don't want anymore ways for things to go wrong and ruin a good game.

If you want a remake then you pretty just want the same game you had ten years ago with just better graphics, "new" content that couldn't be put in the first time, and maybe limited online modes.

An Update Halo CE would have all this nonsense with new missions, characters, and reach DLC and other mambo. All i see when i read that is pretty much an alternate timeline thats going to make everybody freakout with uneeded additions.


I am fine with Reach Campagin DLC and i will always support it. but i can tell you know that we aren't getting it and the last thing i would want is some random missions acting as the prelude to halo CE that inject new things into a storyline that is already getting harsh reviews with Halo:Reach. Just Give me Halo CE in Damned HD and i'll be playing it for another 10 years.

  • 03.23.2011 3:03 PM PDT

I saw screenshots in another forum, and it seems like a piece of crap.

  • 03.23.2011 3:13 PM PDT


Posted by: grey101
I just don't understand the point of mixing Reach DLc along with a "remake" of Halo CE.


Why wouldn't it be not a true remake if the original game is left untouched?

We don't need Extra missions, we don't need new characters, We don't want anymore ways for things to go wrong and ruin a good game.

Nobody "needs" them. But who wouldn't want new Halo action? May it come out alone or bundled with Halo CE, I don't care, as long as I have it. Well, don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying new Halo content is something I'm eagerly waiting for and whatnot, all I'm saying is that if there is new Halo material, I couldn't care less how I get access to it, as long as I can have access to it. And please, explain to me how it could ruin the original Halo, it we don't even touch it? It seems like complaining for complaining's sake to me. No one said the original game would be modified or whatever. Nobody needs extra content, but that doesn't mean it would hurt anyone if there was any. Like I said, if you hate Firefight, would you be complaining about its inclusion in a game? Would it ruin it? Just ignore it.

If you want a remake then you pretty just want the same game you had ten years ago with just better graphics, "new" content that couldn't be put in the first time, and maybe limited online modes.

Let me guess, you would whine if there was a new trailers option in the main menu? And why the hell would you be against online modes? Just ignore them if you don't care about them. If you're going to remake Halo CE, why not put everything it had in the game, isn't what you want? If there's no online mode for the multiplayer, feels a bit worthless to add it in this day and age.

An Update Halo CE would have all this nonsense with new missions, characters, and reach DLC and other mambo. All i see when i read that is pretty much an alternate timeline thats going to make everybody freakout with uneeded additions.

Alternate timeline? You mean regarding Reach? Because the CE game would be left untouched. And who cares if people freak out about canon issues if your only concern is an untouched CE remake? One could say Firefight was uneeded as there's plenty of moments in the campaign feeling like a Firefight encounter. Did it hurt the game? No, it's only an option.


I am fine with Reach Campagin DLC and i will always support it. but i can tell you know that we aren't getting it and the last thing i would want is some random missions acting as the prelude to halo CE that inject new things into a storyline that is already getting harsh reviews with Halo:Reach. Just Give me Halo CE in Damned HD and i'll be playing it for another 10 years.

Well, the "new things" could be taken from the book as we see from the Defiant map pack. I don't see any reason for any people to complain if an event from an Halo book was depicted in an expansion pack, it's already written story. Anyway, if there are pissed off people in this, it's those who prefer the Reach story rather than the FoR one, those who loved the FoR one already got irritated by the game anyway, I don't see why they'd care so much about this.

  • 03.23.2011 3:35 PM PDT

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I for one would love to see a tie in between everything. If the cover of halo: cryptum is any indication, 343 now owns most if not all of the halo written works. This would suggest to me that perhaps they may actually care about continuity between games and expanded universe fiction(no offense AT ALL towards bungie). a few new missions between reach and CE that just said "oh yeah, this is how johnson got on the PoA, this is why the timeline was a little screwy, now on to CE....." I would be cool with that. changing the nature or core of CE, no, but adding to it, sure. I think its a longshot to be sure, because if they screw the pooch they alienate most of their loyal halofans but if they succeed...well then whats the harm?

I agree with the OP that 343 and CA have been teasing us with the nods to the expanded universe in the Defiant Map pack, lest we forget there is supposedly new armor to be had and a waypoint update in the works. If these rumors are true Reachs full potential may have yet to be harnessed. THIS fact has been hinted at by bungie themselves, that we will be discovering easter eggs and tidbits for perhaps years or possibly this CE remake could come out and change how we view the the game but not change the actual content.

I know this was long winded and I am in NO WAY saying ANY OF THIS IS FACT, JUST MY SPECULATION. But it would be awesome. to me at least.

  • 03.23.2011 6:06 PM PDT
Subject: Halo CE Remake not what we think it is?

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Interesting speculation, and well paced read. I would love this. I was enormously disappointed with Reach's campaign. I am willing for a redemption. The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund was just a better quality story and better paced. If 343i decides to do this instead of rehashing Halo CE, I will gain utter respect for them.

  • 03.23.2011 7:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Plasma Prestige
Interesting speculation, and well paced read. I would love this. I was enormously disappointed with Reach's campaign. I am willing for a redemption. The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund was just a better quality story and better paced. If 343i decides to do this instead of rehashing Halo CE, I will gain utter respect for them.


Thanks. Yeah I think it'd be great. Reach's Campaign had so much potential, and they wasted it. I hate how they hyped it up to be epic (Tip of the Spear Cutscene anyone?) and it turned out to be a destroy the AA gun mission.

I'd love to see a the Spartan IIs from the book, even if it's only a cutscene or a training mission before the real CE campaign starts. We saw Fred and Kelly in Halo Legends, but to see them all together would be amazing.

  • 03.24.2011 3:59 AM PDT


Posted by: Jayster 94
I'd love to see a the Spartan IIs from the book, even if it's only a cutscene or a training mission before the real CE campaign starts. We saw Fred and Kelly in Halo Legends, but to see them all together would be amazing.


I'd LOVE to see a character from the books in a game. It would be pretty cool if we got to play some operations with the Chief and other fellow Spartan IIs.

  • 03.24.2011 1:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Evil Johnny

Posted by: Jayster 94
I'd love to see a the Spartan IIs from the book, even if it's only a cutscene or a training mission before the real CE campaign starts. We saw Fred and Kelly in Halo Legends, but to see them all together would be amazing.


I'd LOVE to see a character from the books in a game. It would be pretty cool if we got to play some operations with the Chief and other fellow Spartan IIs.


I'd just like to see some scenes from the books, sort of like what they're doing with the Halo Evolutions Motion Comics. It'd be cooler to see them in game though.

  • 03.25.2011 2:15 PM PDT
Subject: Halo CE Remake not what we think it is? (Long read)

PRESTON....im a big fan of the original HALO armor im talken about MARK V helmet im also a big fan of ROUGE itjust looks so stealthy and im a huge fan of RECON!! of course who isint a fan of it it quite popular now ever scince bungie vs the world witch i thin should happen one more time so people who missed it can try once more for the awsome armor!!!

they need to do a remake nuff said

  • 05.10.2011 8:47 PM PDT

If it does come out, I wanna play as another "me". Noble Six is dead, I want a new one!

  • 05.10.2011 8:52 PM PDT

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  • 06.05.2011 4:15 PM PDT
Subject: Halo CE Remake not what we think it is?

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  • 06.05.2011 5:55 PM PDT

"Where ere thou hast been, here or in yon world manifest? Canst thou tell what is, or what was, or what is to come? No thing shall last. Yet there are some things that will never change. History is written in blood, yet are battles really lost on the battlefield? Canst thou tell me where thou comest, and where thou goest, and what is, or what was, or what will be? For everything remains, AS IT NEVER WAS."

Here's what I think. Frankie said there would be no "NEW" Halo games. Well, technically a Halo: Combat Evolved remake wouldn't be a "new" game. Halo: CE isn't new.

We already know that Bungie "twists" the truth to cover up potentially revealing secrets, Frankie wouldn't be lying but he'd be masking the truth.

  • 06.05.2011 7:23 PM PDT


Posted by: jack0fhearts
Here's what I think. Frankie said there would be no "NEW" Halo games. Well, technically a Halo: Combat Evolved remake wouldn't be a "new" game. Halo: CE isn't new.

We already know that Bungie "twists" the truth to cover up potentially revealing secrets, Frankie wouldn't be lying but he'd be masking the truth.


If it is made recently and released, it is new.

  • 06.05.2011 7:39 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

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Posted by: jack0fhearts
Here's what I think. Frankie said there would be no "NEW" Halo games. Well, technically a Halo: Combat Evolved remake wouldn't be a "new" game. Halo: CE isn't new.

We already know that Bungie "twists" the truth to cover up potentially revealing secrets, Frankie wouldn't be lying but he'd be masking the truth.


If it is made recently and released, it is new.



I wouldn't classify a remake as a new game.

  • 06.05.2011 7:40 PM PDT

It will most likely be released as a full priced, NEW game.

Besides, does everybody forget when Frankie shot down the rumors by outright saying it would be incredibly lazy and unimaginative if they didn't add anything new to the lore?

A remake of CE adds nothing, even if they put in levels from the book.

  • 06.05.2011 7:49 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron
It will most likely be released as a full priced, NEW game.

Besides, does everybody forget when Frankie shot down the rumors by outright saying it would be incredibly lazy and unimaginative if they didn't add anything new to the lore?

A remake of CE adds nothing, even if they put in levels from the book.


This same spiel again?

  • 06.05.2011 7:51 PM PDT

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