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Does size matter or is it all about the Activity level? Sounds like a commerical. ha. I was just wondering what would be considered a successful group.

* Is it the size?
If so how big would you need to get to be considered successful?

* Is it the activity level?
If so, how do you measure the activity level and what is considered successful?

* Is it content?
If so, how much content is needed?

* Is it really measurable?
If so, how?

To many questions? ha. I am sure this has been debated before, just didn't look very far for the answers. Thanks, dave

  • 01.02.2006 12:44 PM PDT
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Size is of little importance. Activity is of great importance. Content is of utmost importance. I don't think the last two can be measured accurately though.

  • 01.02.2006 12:46 PM PDT
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Only the paranoid will survive!

It's activity I look for. Activity is dependent on size, however. A one man active group wouldn't be too fun. However, I know groups that have 35 members that have more active members then groups with 335 members.

I look for uniqueness in a group. If it's different, in a good way, then activity will follow. So I look for a unique purpose, activity, and resources in a group in that order.

  • 01.02.2006 12:53 PM PDT
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Such is the case with Igni Ferroque (Shishka's group). There's over 700 members, but it takes at least a day to get a reply there.

  • 01.02.2006 1:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: prospartan7
Such is the case with Igni Ferroque (Shishka's group). There's over 700 members, but it takes at least a day to get a reply there.


An unfortunate truth, but at least the responses are better than what you'd expect.

Still, I wouldn't mind the ability to enforce a policy that requires activity. Something that monitors users and if they don't post in the group for a month or so, they are automatically removed from the group.

  • 01.02.2006 2:15 PM PDT
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Both true. Responses in that group are on par with the majority on this forum. And yes, it would be nice to have that little feature.

  • 01.02.2006 2:24 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Size isnt important, but is a badge of honor.

If your group has alot of members it means that your group is most likely appealing and that when people join they stay.

If your group i large and dead like the marty army then no size doesnt matter.

In THE OFC the founder booted all non active members. It had 220+ members and was wittled down to 60. I admire that.

  • 01.02.2006 2:41 PM PDT
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size kind of matters, but it is all about the activity. You can have 1000 members, but if only 1 or 2 people post the group just sucks.

Something that monitors users and if they don't post in the group for a month or so, they are automatically removed from the group.
That is a great idea

  • 01.02.2006 3:15 PM PDT

This is one of those touchy issues that seems to always to get the obligatory "no" answer. But, as the guy who always smiles inwardly whenever someone fires off the "size doesn't matter" mantra, most of us know that to some extent you have to have a decent amount of size to get going (Whipe that smirk off your face, gutter-brain). With a larger member count, the probability that you will have more active members rises, usually stimulating more growth. While I understand that even small chapters can have large amounts of activity occasionally, and visa versa, generally a group with more members will be more active.

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I prefare active members, that way it's something differant & mainly not boring.

  • 01.02.2006 3:36 PM PDT

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This is one of those touchy issues that seems to always to get the obligatory "no" answer. But, as the guy who always smiles inwardly whenever someone fires off the "size doesn't matter" mantra, most of us know that to some extent you have to have a decent amount of size to get going (Whipe that smirk off your face, gutter-brain). With a larger member count, the probability that you will have more active members rises, usually stimulating more growth. While I understand that even small chapters can have large amounts of activity occasionally, and visa versa, generally a group with more members will be more active.


This is the nice way of how I would have put it.

  • 01.02.2006 3:40 PM PDT

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Size does matter to a certain extent. I mean (this is a little extreme) but if you have two members who post often, does that really do much good? I don't think it does. All you need is a reasonable amount of members to be active - it isn't necessary to have a hundred active members.

  • 01.02.2006 3:47 PM PDT

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Size is of little importance. Activity is of great importance. Content is of utmost importance. I don't think the last two can be measured accurately though.

It's unlikely you'd have activity without good content.

  • 01.02.2006 3:56 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

You dont get big by having a crappy group, if your group is good it gets big.

Keeping it good is up to you.

So size doesnt matter, but is really the result of greatness.

  • 01.02.2006 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: EAGLES5
You dont get big by having a crappy group, if your group is good it gets big.

Keeping it good is up to you.

So size doesnt matter, but is really the result of greatness.

well said

  • 01.02.2006 4:18 PM PDT
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If you have a bigger group, it is likely that it will be more active but only to a certain point. MBT isn't really that much more active than Body Politic, although it has about 5 times as many people.

  • 01.02.2006 4:24 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

Politics = New every day

Halo 2= over a year old and old

Do the math

  • 01.02.2006 4:27 PM PDT
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Well I am part of one group that hasn't posted anything in months (Tatooine Oasis) and another group that I post in every other day (Arcam).

Arcam is basicaly made up of about 6-8 people, with a couple people who just don't post. Heck Arcam has a working fanfic of itself that me and a couple members started.

Tatooine Oasis is alot larger, but nobody has posted in any thread besides the trivia one in over 4 months. And the trivia one hasn't been touched since the beginning of december. No fault to any in power as a moderator there (well sorta) but the content is nothing. So activity plumets, and size doesn't matter.

So my answer is its not the size, but the activity between the members. The content comes along with the activity.

In my biased oppinion, Arcam is very successful.

In a very factual way, Tatooine Oasis should be dying any time now.

[Edited on 1/2/2006]

  • 01.02.2006 5:30 PM PDT
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Hey, Thanks for the posts (and information). Some of these replies had me rolling on the floor laughing.

Thanks for your opinions. dave

  • 01.02.2006 6:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
Still, I wouldn't mind the ability to enforce a policy that requires activity. Something that monitors users and if they don't post in the group for a month or so, they are automatically removed from the group.


Agggh! We tried to enforce such a policy in one of the groups I am in. Once a week, to make sure it was really active. Once the group got to 50 members, with only about 20 active people, it got really hard to enforce it. We gave up after two weeks.

  • 01.02.2006 6:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Mabian
Posted by: Shishka
Still, I wouldn't mind the ability to enforce a policy that requires activity. Something that monitors users and if they don't post in the group for a month or so, they are automatically removed from the group.


Agggh! We tried to enforce such a policy in one of the groups I am in. Once a week, to make sure it was really active. Once the group got to 50 members, with only about 20 active people, it got really hard to enforce it. We gave up after two weeks.


Lol, i started enforcing that in OFG because there were too many people and not enough reviews happening, and i gave a week for anyone who would have just read the front page to find that there was going to be a 'great purge', and still we only kept about 50 members. from 285. The only problem i have with it is that it takes forever to do that, and its really easy to mistakenly delete someone that you didn't mean to. I did it to 3 people.

But when most people look at a group, they think its good based mainly on how big it is, which is completely wrong. However, that thinking works in reality, whereas what everyone else is saying only works in theory. Oh well, a harsh truth.

  • 01.02.2006 6:55 PM PDT
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Lol, i started enforcing that in OFG because there were too many people and not enough reviews happening, and i gave a week for anyone who would have just read the front page to find that there was going to be a 'great purge', and still we only kept about 50 members. from 285. The only problem i have with it is that it takes forever to do that, and its really easy to mistakenly delete someone that you didn't mean to. I did it to 3 people.

But when most people look at a group, they think its good based mainly on how big it is, which is completely wrong. However, that thinking works in reality, whereas what everyone else is saying only works in theory. Oh well, a harsh truth.


yeah...theres another group where I'm very inactive posting wise, but I read the fanfics when I have time.

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Posted by: Kilroy
Size is of little importance. Activity is of great importance. Content is of utmost importance. I don't think the last two can be measured accurately though.

It's unlikely you'd have activity without good content.


Not necessarily. Depends on the purpose of your chapter. Off-topic chapters usually wind up with nothing but spam, even though the activity level may be high.

  • 01.02.2006 8:00 PM PDT
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why are ppl always compelled to find a group is it the fear of being alone or the need for acceptance

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