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Subject: Would humans win the war faster if they used modern weapons?
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I think that They would dominate on the ground, but in space they would easily lose.

  • 03.26.2011 6:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Razor sharp dude
I think that They would dominate on the ground, but in space they would easily lose.


Seeing that the covenant outnumber, let alone have ships that can glass cities..............................

Covenant still win.

  • 03.26.2011 6:07 PM PDT

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The smaller caliber 5.56 MM rifles used by NATO would not be able to pop an elite's shield (or presumably puncture smaller creature's armor. The larger 7.62 MM rounds used today are the same as the AR in Halo, so it would still take awhile, when the plasma weapons of the covenant would burn through just about anything.

The Abrams tank is arguably better than the scorpion (but that's a whole separate thread), but according to the books the wraith would kill both of them with ease.

No, not much hope for modern humanity against aliens with energy shields and plasma weapons.

As for space... we are SO dead.

  • 03.26.2011 6:14 PM PDT
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In Halo, we always won on the ground. The only thing that allowed the covenant to win was their space dominance.

  • 03.26.2011 6:17 PM PDT

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Ground warfare would be pretty easy with Modern Weapons. But we couldn't categorize space, because we parley have any space weapons.
Posted by: Razor sharp dude
I think that They would dominate on the ground, but in space they would easily lose.

  • 03.26.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Hold on where is this going? You saying that a P90 would be better than a SMG 500 years more advaned in the future agianst aliens?

  • 03.26.2011 6:50 PM PDT

I don't know...A Deagle is basically as strong as an M6D except with a much greater range.

The SRS99 is basically a modern sniper that fires a bigger calibur(.56 Cal) Which is an Anti-Tank round and has much more speed.

  • 03.26.2011 6:56 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
The SRS99 is basically a modern sniper that fires a bigger calibur(.56 Cal) Which is an Anti-Tank round and has much more speed.


But, is it reliable? Does it have quick 5x or 10x zoom? Is it easily portable for a marine (spartans yes, but marines?)?

  • 03.26.2011 7:45 PM PDT
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WTH Future weapons are way better than the ones we have now. They don't seem as strong for gameplay reasons as well the the fact that defense systems are also more advanced in the future.

  • 03.26.2011 9:13 PM PDT

They ARE using modern weapons of the year 2552. All of the weapons in Halo beat the crap out of today's modern weapons.

  • 03.26.2011 9:37 PM PDT

The UNSC weapons are just as competent if not more so than current weapons. They just seem weak for game play purposes.

  • 03.26.2011 9:42 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
I don't know...A Deagle is basically as strong as an M6D except with a much greater range.

The SRS99 is basically a modern sniper that fires a bigger calibur(.56 Cal) Which is an Anti-Tank round and has much more speed.


What do you mean "with greater range?"

  • 03.26.2011 11:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlackKnightKanos
They ARE using modern weapons of the year 2552. All of the weapons in Halo beat the crap out of today's modern weapons.


In most case's its the Designs of the weapons that makes people doubt them, Lacking things like Iron Sights and more. What happens when something goes wrong with your fancy HUD cross hairs? Why the does this thing have a range in the double digit meter range? Why does the Pistol have better Ammunition then the Rifle?

For the Most part, its silly -blam!- like that; Put in like that for Balance, and are things that are easily fixed.

There are of course a few things completely inexcusable in weapon designs; The Shotgun and the Grenade Launcher.

We have Automatic shotguns, ones with a range greater than a Club that has a trigger and makes a sound effect. I expect my shotguns that are 500+ years into my future to be at the very least automatic, peferably able to use different kinds of ammunition(such as Dragonbreath, or even mini-grenades)

This Brings us to the M319 Individual Grenade Launcher; The Only single shot Grenade Launchers in real use are Underslung launchers and the RPG-7(And that last ones more of a rocket) While the EMP is a nifty option, it shouldn't have a breach loading system when we have six shot launchers and even fully automatic launchers. I honestly can't figure out why the UNSC used that piece of Shiza for almost Three Hundred Years. Sweet Jesus thats like us using Muskets.

Honestly The UNSC took several steps back in several areas in concerns to weapons.(And several steps in the wrong direction with vehicles: Rule of Cool doesn't win wars)

  • 03.26.2011 11:18 PM PDT

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The smaller caliber 5.56 MM rifles used by NATO would not be able to pop an elite's shield (or presumably puncture smaller creature's armor. The larger 7.62 MM rounds used today are the same as the AR in Halo, so it would still take awhile, when the plasma weapons of the covenant would burn through just about anything.

The Abrams tank is arguably better than the scorpion (but that's a whole separate thread), but according to the books the wraith would kill both of them with ease.

No, not much hope for modern humanity against aliens with energy shields and plasma weapons.

As for space... we are SO dead.
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  • 03.26.2011 11:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: BlackKnightKanos
They ARE using modern weapons of the year 2552. All of the weapons in Halo beat the crap out of today's modern weapons.


Hardly. The weapons they use are horrifically inaccurate and apparently have next to no stopping power. Consider the MA5C: it takes upwards of a quarter of a clip to kill a single human being and has an effective range of probably no more than 50m. Odd, considering that the weapon still uses the 7.62x51, the same round in the m14, which is supposed to be renowned for range and accuracy.

  • 03.26.2011 11:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: mojeda101
I don't know...A Deagle is basically as strong as an M6D except with a much greater range.

The SRS99 is basically a modern sniper that fires a bigger calibur(.56 Cal) Which is an Anti-Tank round and has much more speed.


What do you mean "with greater range?"


I meant the M6D, I get your confusion, I just read my post.

  • 03.26.2011 11:46 PM PDT

Posted by: Cmdr DaeFaron

Posted by: mojeda101
I don't know...A Deagle is basically as strong as an M6D except with a much greater range.

The SRS99 is basically a modern sniper that fires a bigger calibur(.56 Cal) Which is an Anti-Tank round and has much more speed.


What do you mean "with greater range?"


I meant the M6D, I get your confusion, I just read my post.

  • 03.26.2011 11:47 PM PDT