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Subject: Voices of the Sangheili

Subject: Halo: Reach, is it a game?
Posted by: Skibur
Could it be a movie?
Just putting it out there. Someone find me some evidence for or against.
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I've always been a fan of Elites. Their evolution of design, culture, and representation over the Halo trilogy, imo, has been slowly degrading. That is, until Reach, but I still consider Halo: CE's Elites to have been the best in any game (in terms of anatomy and language).

A while back I was messing around in firefight so I could hear the Elite's dialogue. Instantly I associated their new voices with the character "Mikey" from Men In Black. (skip to 1:35) Which sounds odd as the language sounds as if it requires teeth, a tongue, and lips.

Personally I preferred the original audio of their voices provided in Halo: Combat Evolved.
I realize it was only reversed and distorted english, but I felt it really fit their character and sounded more authentic.

Bungie has designed a new language for them, as mentioned in one of their BWU, but I'm hoping any future Halo projects re-invent the language to sound more like the original audio in Halo: CE.

Anyone else have a thought on this subject?

  • 03.27.2011 1:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol." They did sound great in Halo CE though.

  • 03.27.2011 8:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

  • 03.27.2011 8:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: TheGreenAlloy

Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

Both "The Duel" and "The Cole Protocol" vomited medieval Japanese culture all over them, as well as portraying them as unthinking brutes.

  • 03.27.2011 8:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: TheGreenAlloy
Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

Both "The Duel" and "The Cole Protocol" vomited medieval Japanese culture all over them, as well as portraying them as unthinking brutes.

I would agree with you on The Cole Protocol.

The Duel did not portray them as unthinking brutes. Rather, it showed the opposite I think.


I doubt the audio will sound like it did in Halo: CE now. If it did then they would make poor characters, if they are to remain protagonists that is. The problem in Halo: CE is that they really had no depth. I honestly felt no different towards Elites in those days than I did towards the Strogg in Quake II.

In Halo 2 and 3 they are protagonists, and thus sound the way they do to make them more relatable. In CE and Reach, they are supposed to feel alien and unrelatable. If there were anymore games set in the H-C war days though then aye, it would be better with the CE dialogue I think.

[Edited on 03.27.2011 9:04 AM PDT]

  • 03.27.2011 8:55 AM PDT

Adepto In Meus Campester
Posted by: ParagonRenegade
You were totally and absolutely correct in every way, I don't know why we were arguing, you're so amazing I should never have doubted you.

Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: TheGreenAlloy
Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

Both "The Duel" and "The Cole Protocol" vomited medieval Japanese culture all over them, as well as portraying them as unthinking brutes.

I would agree with you on The Cole Protocol.

The Duel did not portray them as unthinking brutes. Rather, it showed the opposite I think.

Well...
Han giggled nonstop, and that's reason enough for me not to like it.
Also, a married swordsman in Sangheili culture = no.
And Hakkor was an unthinking brute. The rest of it was just cliched characters.

[Edited on 03.27.2011 9:00 AM PDT]

  • 03.27.2011 8:59 AM PDT

"Find where the liar hides, so that I may place my boot between his gums!" - Rtas 'Vadum

Posted by: Lord Slade
Han giggled nonstop, and that's reason enough for me not to like it.
Also, a married swordsman in Sangheili culture = no.
And Hakkor was an unthinking brute. The rest of it was just cliched characters.

Aye.

General sentiment conveyed through it though is that they have other emotional capacities other than hubris, anger and irrational fanaticism.

  • 03.27.2011 9:11 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: TheGreenAlloy

Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

Both "The Duel" and "The Cole Protocol" vomited medieval Japanese culture all over them, as well as portraying them as unthinking brutes.

Ah, it's bad because their culture was different than what you thought it would be.

  • 03.27.2011 9:13 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: anton1792
Posted by: Lord Slade
Posted by: TheGreenAlloy
Posted by: Lord Slade
I think the biggest slap in the face for the Sangheili would be "The Duel", followed by "The Cole Protocol."

Not really.

Both "The Duel" and "The Cole Protocol" vomited medieval Japanese culture all over them, as well as portraying them as unthinking brutes.

I would agree with you on The Cole Protocol.

The Duel did not portray them as unthinking brutes. Rather, it showed the opposite I think.

Well...
Han giggled nonstop, and that's reason enough for me not to like it.
Also, a married swordsman in Sangheili culture = no.
And Hakkor was an unthinking brute. The rest of it was just cliched characters.

That was back when being the Arbiter was superkewl.

  • 03.27.2011 9:14 AM PDT
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Gods, The Duel makes me physically ill. I skip it every time.

I didn't think The Cole Protocol was that bad, honestly. Yeah, a little cheesy, but not too terrible.

  • 03.27.2011 11:50 AM PDT


Posted by: Lord Slade
Also, a married swordsman in Sangheili culture = no.
There has been nothing stated about an already married individual that became a Swordsman.

All we know is that, after one becomes a swordsman, he cannot get married.

I still disliked that video, though.

  • 03.27.2011 11:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Plasma3150
There has been nothing stated about an already married individual that became a Swordsman.
All we know is that, after one becomes a swordsman, he cannot get married.


This is true. Still, I don't think a swordsman would have been that loyal to his wife. As sexist as it seems, in Sangheili culture the women seem to be second class citizens.

  • 03.27.2011 12:14 PM PDT


Posted by: SoldierOfAthena
Posted by: Plasma3150
There has been nothing stated about an already married individual that became a Swordsman.
All we know is that, after one becomes a swordsman, he cannot get married.


This is true. Still, I don't think a swordsman would have been that loyal to his wife. As sexist as it seems, in Sangheili culture the women seem to be second class citizens.

I don't really think so. They are allowed to work on the weaponry and vehicles (Improve upon them), which is a very high honor.

  • 03.27.2011 12:21 PM PDT
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"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

The Sangheili in Halo Wars were... *shudders*

  • 03.27.2011 12:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: Plasma3150
I don't really think so. They are allowed to work on the weaponry and vehicles (Improve upon them), which is a very high honor.


Really? I didn't know that.. Where's it say that?

  • 03.27.2011 12:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: SoldierOfAthena
Posted by: Plasma3150
I don't really think so. They are allowed to work on the weaponry and vehicles (Improve upon them), which is a very high honor.


Really? I didn't know that.. Where's it say that?

Halo Wars pre-release sight and by 3g3 commentaries. Also in Letters pf the Universe.

By the way, the way things look in Halo Legends has been declared non-canon, only the main parts that happend are canon, so Legends is a blunt instrument I guess, not a sword.

You may not understand that.

  • 03.27.2011 2:20 PM PDT
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No, I understand perfectly. I've always taken Legends with a grain of "truth" as it were, and haven't held it as canonically perfect. I mean, come on, Sangheili with human-like facial features? No.

  • 03.27.2011 2:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: hotshot revan II
The Sangheili in Halo Wars were... *shudders*

As epic as ever.

  • 03.27.2011 3:23 PM PDT


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: SoldierOfAthena
Posted by: Plasma3150
There has been nothing stated about an already married individual that became a Swordsman.
All we know is that, after one becomes a swordsman, he cannot get married.


This is true. Still, I don't think a swordsman would have been that loyal to his wife. As sexist as it seems, in Sangheili culture the women seem to be second class citizens.

I don't really think so. They are allowed to work on the weaponry and vehicles (Improve upon them), which is a very high honor.


And as far as we've seen there has been absolutely nothing saying anything about military service for female Sangheili. I think it's more easily assumable that women in Sangheili culture are equal to men, or really close, seeing as promotion and the like in their culture revolves entirely around merit.

Also, just because we haven't seen any females in any military capacity, other than that weapons engineer in the material that went with Halo Wars, does not mean they can't serve. Like until Contact Harvest came out we didn't know that a female Jackal could be a Shipmistress. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence as the saying goes.

  • 03.27.2011 3:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: TheGreenAlloy

Posted by: hotshot revan II
The Sangheili in Halo Wars were... *shudders*

As epic as ever.


I agree. They had their distinct guttural, throaty voices. It was necessary to have them speak in a language the player understood (like in Halo 2 & 3) so that cutscenes would make sense. Also, the player could control them in multiplayer, so why would they speak their language? That'd be awkward.

  • 03.27.2011 8:30 PM PDT