Bungie Universe
This topic has moved here: Subject: installation 05 ?
  • Subject: installation 05 ?
  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2
Subject: installation 05 ?
  • gamertag: w0ppit
  • user homepage:

what happened to it after halo 2?

now i was looking at the presumed "precursor" ruins, the gravemind and i am wondering if this halo is/was home to the Captive at one point?
ideas?

  • 03.27.2011 11:20 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact

Those Delta Halo ruins?

I'm sure those are ancient Human structures.
Precursor ruins are indestructible,it wouldn't look like that

  • 03.27.2011 11:21 AM PDT

Nothing. The Remaining Covenant retreated back to Earth to go into the portal before it fired.

The Separatists stayed and attempted to stop the spread of the flood, but one ship managed to get infected and escape to Earth, thus the one you see in "The Storm". I don't know how High Charity managed to escape.

  • 03.27.2011 12:04 PM PDT


Posted by: mojeda101
Nothing. The Remaining Covenant retreated back to Earth to go into the portal before it fired.

The Separatists stayed and attempted to stop the spread of the flood, but one ship managed to get infected and escape to Earth, thus the one you see in "The Storm". I don't know how High Charity managed to escape.
High Charity lost its power when the Forerunner Keyship left. It would have been reasonable to assume that the station itself would have been immobile and weaponless.

It all changed when the Gravemind figured out how to power it back up. Wish that I could have seen the current Fleet Master's face when it left.

  • 03.27.2011 12:08 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Nothing. The Remaining Covenant retreated back to Earth to go into the portal before it fired.

The Separatists stayed and attempted to stop the spread of the flood, but one ship managed to get infected and escape to Earth, thus the one you see in "The Storm". I don't know how High Charity managed to escape.
High Charity lost its power when the Forerunner Keyship left. It would have been reasonable to assume that the station itself would have been immobile and weaponless.

It all changed when the Gravemind figured out how to power it back up. Wish that I could have seen the current Fleet Master's face when it left.


Lol

  • 03.27.2011 12:09 PM PDT

Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Nothing. The Remaining Covenant retreated back to Earth to go into the portal before it fired.

The Separatists stayed and attempted to stop the spread of the flood, but one ship managed to get infected and escape to Earth, thus the one you see in "The Storm". I don't know how High Charity managed to escape.
High Charity lost its power when the Forerunner Keyship left. It would have been reasonable to assume that the station itself would have been immobile and weaponless.

It all changed when the Gravemind figured out how to power it back up. Wish that I could have seen the current Fleet Master's face when it left.


No. Trust me I thought the same thing and made a whole topic on it and it got very popular. Remember when you destroy those generators in High Charity on Halo 3? Why wouldn't High Charity have a backup power system? Those were the backup.

You are right about the second paragraph. Gravemind did find the generators and powered them up.

  • 03.27.2011 12:28 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.

  • 03.27.2011 12:41 PM PDT

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: Silent Eli
you are a good translator
Idiot can be a hard language to learn, but once you get it down, everything becomes so clear! The whole world will make sense to you.

Didn't the Elites glass it?

  • 03.27.2011 12:48 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.

  • 03.27.2011 1:01 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.

The Halo rings are designed to only kill sentient beings without causing harm to anything else. It was only after the builders changed the frequency on the rings without the knowledge of the Librarian, that they were able to destroy the precursor ruins.

It is possible that installation 05 was created by the ark after MB destroyed the capital and the ruins are precursor ruins from the planet where the rings were test fired. This would explain their dilapidated nature as well as the fact that that ring had only been fired once.

  • 03.27.2011 1:15 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I like the Mk V armor.


Posted by: Plasma3150

Posted by: mojeda101
Nothing. The Remaining Covenant retreated back to Earth to go into the portal before it fired.

The Separatists stayed and attempted to stop the spread of the flood, but one ship managed to get infected and escape to Earth, thus the one you see in "The Storm". I don't know how High Charity managed to escape.
High Charity lost its power when the Forerunner Keyship left. It would have been reasonable to assume that the station itself would have been immobile and weaponless.

It all changed when the Gravemind figured out how to power it back up. Wish that I could have seen the current Fleet Master's face when it left.

High Charity takes off

"Wort?"

  • 03.27.2011 2:33 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.

The Halo rings are designed to only kill sentient beings without causing harm to anything else. It was only after the builders changed the frequency on the rings without the knowledge of the Librarian, that they were able to destroy the precursor ruins.

It is possible that installation 05 was created by the ark after MB destroyed the capital and the ruins are precursor ruins from the planet where the rings were test fired. This would explain their dilapidated nature as well as the fact that that ring had only been fired once.


Well, we don't really know which Halos are the originals and which ones are new ones created, if any. Wasn't it six rings that made it back to the Ark in Cryptum?

I think it's just as likely that Delta Halo is the one Mendicant Bias had control over. I mainly think it's likely because of the Gravemind's presence there, and seeing how the Gravemind and the Precursor are linked somehow. I think it'd make sense for Delta Halo to be Mendicant's as the Precursor came or was brought aboard the one he had control of in Cryptum, and Delta Halo is pretty much completely controlled by the Flood in Halo 2.

  • 03.27.2011 4:09 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.

The Halo rings are designed to only kill sentient beings without causing harm to anything else. It was only after the builders changed the frequency on the rings without the knowledge of the Librarian, that they were able to destroy the precursor ruins.

It is possible that installation 05 was created by the ark after MB destroyed the capital and the ruins are precursor ruins from the planet where the rings were test fired. This would explain their dilapidated nature as well as the fact that that ring had only been fired once.


Well, we don't really know which Halos are the originals and which ones are new ones created, if any. Wasn't it six rings that made it back to the Ark in Cryptum?

I think it's just as likely that Delta Halo is the one Mendicant Bias had control over. I mainly think it's likely because of the Gravemind's presence there, and seeing how the Gravemind and the Precursor are linked somehow. I think it'd make sense for Delta Halo to be Mendicant's as the Precursor came or was brought aboard the one he had control of in Cryptum, and Delta Halo is pretty much completely controlled by the Flood in Halo 2.

Where I get the idea that Delta Halo was one of the ones that was not controlled by Mendicant Bias is when in this cutscene when 2401 Penitent Tangent mentions that the ring has "a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual." Since we know that all of the rings were fired at the end of the Forerunner-Flood war and installation 05 was only fired once, it could not have been previously used. As Mendicant Bias fired (or tried to fire) all five of the installations that it controlled, it would be impossible for Installation 05 to have been under its control.

You are correct that there is no way to know now which ones were built new and which escaped from the capital.

  • 03.27.2011 4:36 PM PDT

Living under a bridge all of your life has it's consequences.

Instalation 05 could be the replacement for Halo the that was destroyed near the capital, explaining why it was only fired once, or it could be that MB never controlled it, like you said.

  • 03.27.2011 6:11 PM PDT


Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: OrderedComa

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.

The Halo rings are designed to only kill sentient beings without causing harm to anything else. It was only after the builders changed the frequency on the rings without the knowledge of the Librarian, that they were able to destroy the precursor ruins.

It is possible that installation 05 was created by the ark after MB destroyed the capital and the ruins are precursor ruins from the planet where the rings were test fired. This would explain their dilapidated nature as well as the fact that that ring had only been fired once.


Well, we don't really know which Halos are the originals and which ones are new ones created, if any. Wasn't it six rings that made it back to the Ark in Cryptum?

I think it's just as likely that Delta Halo is the one Mendicant Bias had control over. I mainly think it's likely because of the Gravemind's presence there, and seeing how the Gravemind and the Precursor are linked somehow. I think it'd make sense for Delta Halo to be Mendicant's as the Precursor came or was brought aboard the one he had control of in Cryptum, and Delta Halo is pretty much completely controlled by the Flood in Halo 2.

Where I get the idea that Delta Halo was one of the ones that was not controlled by Mendicant Bias is when in this cutscene when 2401 Penitent Tangent mentions that the ring has "a successful utilization record of 1.2 trillion simulated and one actual." Since we know that all of the rings were fired at the end of the Forerunner-Flood war and installation 05 was only fired once, it could not have been previously used. As Mendicant Bias fired (or tried to fire) all five of the installations that it controlled, it would be impossible for Installation 05 to have been under its control.

You are correct that there is no way to know now which ones were built new and which escaped from the capital.


This is all true. I thought that Mendicant had kept his Ring out of the fight and held back while using others. If I remember correctly, it didn't sound like he used his Halo at all during the battle, I could easily be wrong though, especially since I can't really remember what was said about the battle, I kinda got overloaded.

  • 03.27.2011 8:36 PM PDT

Have you seen my mind anywhere? I seem to have lost it...

0x0 x0x 0x0 000 000 x0x 000
x0x 0x0 0x0 0xx 000 0x0 000
x0x x0x x00 0xx 0x0 x0x 0x0

I have seen you future

Posted by: OrderedComa
This is all true. I thought that Mendicant had kept his Ring out of the fight and held back while using others. If I remember correctly, it didn't sound like he used his Halo at all during the battle, I could easily be wrong though, especially since I can't really remember what was said about the battle, I kinda got overloaded.

Mendicant Bias took control of his maximum five rings and started to fire them. One of them got destroyed as Bornstellar/Didact tried to escape at the same time as the other seven rings. At least one of the seven rings was also destroyed and there were six rings at the ark. It is implied that at least one of MB's rings was able to fire as the capital was presumed gone.

This whole section was extremely confusing and I had to re-read the end of the book before posting anything.

  • 03.27.2011 9:40 PM PDT
  • gamertag: w0ppit
  • user homepage:

Awesome guys, thanks. I've read all the books etc and now playing the games back to back i notice some interesting things.
Thanks for the input!

  • 03.28.2011 12:53 AM PDT

The ruins were most likely created by whatever sentient beings were placed on the Ring by the librarian, after the flood already on the ring escaped containment anything large enough to sustain them was absorbed


oh , and 2 rings got destroyed before Bornstellar traveled through the portal to the ark.



[Edited on 03.28.2011 1:36 AM PDT]

  • 03.28.2011 1:35 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: ROBERTO jh

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
First off, Precursor ruins are not indestructible. A Halo ring could damage them after the frequency was modified. Second, Delta Halo could not have been where the Prisoner was held before Cryptum. That was the human planet with all of the precursor ruins that the Forerunners test fired Halo on.

It is probable that the Gravemind was held there during and after the firing of the array.


I think he knows Precursor ruins can be destroyed by Halo. He's saying that they are invincible to all other weaponry. Point being, Halo's can't effect themselves, or other Halo's it would seem. The Librarian wouldn't create an ecosystem on a weapon that effectively committed biological suicide.


This

  • 03.28.2011 2:37 AM PDT

Games I like:,
Half-Minute Hero
MBU
Portal
Halo 3 is the best Halo ever
Maps I like: Turf, Avalanche, Pylon, Sandbox, Breakpoint and many more.

Those ruins I believe are ancient Forerunner structures that were moved to the ring after it's construction. Then the elites glassed it to stop the infection spreading and activating the Halo, because as far as I know, Miranda didnt keep the Index.

  • 03.28.2011 3:21 AM PDT


Posted by: Multijirachi
Those ruins I believe are ancient Forerunner structures that were moved to the ring after it's construction. Then the elites glassed it to stop the infection spreading and activating the Halo, because as far as I know, Miranda didnt keep the Index.

I don't remember the elites glassing Delta halo, and it certainly wasn't activated.

Whether or not Miranda kept the index or not, it is not explained in the games or books. Where is your info comming from?

  • 03.28.2011 5:02 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

Deva Path


Posted by: DecepticonCobra

We are all going to get banned aren't we?


Posted by: Multijirachi
Those ruins I believe are ancient Forerunner structures that were moved to the ring after it's construction. Then the elites glassed it to stop the infection spreading and activating the Halo, because as far as I know, Miranda didnt keep the Index.

I say they are ancient human, when i look at them i think of mayan building structures.

  • 03.28.2011 9:45 AM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

"Time was your ally human. But now it has abandoned you. The Forerunners....have returned. And this tomb... is now yours". - The Didact


Posted by: grey101

Posted by: Multijirachi
Those ruins I believe are ancient Forerunner structures that were moved to the ring after it's construction. Then the elites glassed it to stop the infection spreading and activating the Halo, because as far as I know, Miranda didnt keep the Index.

I say they are ancient human, when i look at them i think of mayan building structures.


This

Same can be said with the sandbox/sandtrap and babysitter ruins

  • 03.28.2011 9:58 AM PDT

Don't worry, you're still your mom's favorite Bnet member.

After Halo 2, I think the Elites glassed the surface to prevent more Flood from escaping.

  • 03.28.2011 10:02 AM PDT

  • Pages:
  • 1
  • 2
  • of 2