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Assuming that sometime after Halo 3 the UNSC finds some reason to need a new generation of spartans what do you think they'll be like?

Small groups of very expensive, highly effecient soldiers with top of the line armor like the II's.

Large groups of cheaper, expendible but still very efficient soldiers with cheap armor like the III's.

Or something else like finding a way to augment adults and recruiting volunteers.

  • 03.28.2011 6:00 PM PDT

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I've been writing a fanfic (very slowly, unfortunately) that delves into the aftermath of the war and the upbringing of a Spartan IV program as a new war begins. Basically, better armor on par with Sparan-II's, but adults can be augmented instead of children. Usually special forces like ODSTs volunteer.

  • 03.28.2011 6:16 PM PDT

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I feel like at an undisclosed point in the future every soldier will become Spartan IV's, much like Spartan IIIs. Volunteers only, minimal surgery. The new MJOLNIR standard for all Spartan IVs makes them better than IIIs.

  • 03.28.2011 6:18 PM PDT

Probably more like the Spartan II's but with armor less focused on combat and more focused on stealth/special operations capabilities. More compact, maybe some sort of awesome camo

in other words, super-special forces

  • 03.28.2011 6:55 PM PDT

Why make more Spartans when you still have 300 Spartans from Gamma Company?

  • 03.28.2011 7:29 PM PDT

Ackerson's plan for the improved Spartan III bio-enchancement was implied to go as far as the entire military, even population.

  • 03.28.2011 7:29 PM PDT

They would never recruit adults namely due to the fact that they would go on power trips like a teenager who finally hit puberty. another reason why they wouldn't use adults is because there genes are fully developed making theme not malleable, making the mortality rate even worst than that of the first spartan II's. other than that i would love to see Buck being a spartan. :D

  • 03.28.2011 8:14 PM PDT


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They would never recruit adults namely due to the fact that they would go on power trips like a teenager who finally hit puberty. another reason why they wouldn't use adults is because there genes are fully developed making theme not malleable, making the mortality rate even worst than that of the first spartan II's. other than that i would love to see Buck being a spartan. :D


That was due to the knowledge of augmentations they had during the war, if an SIV program was ever started, there's no telling how much further along the timeline it'd be or what sort of technological strides would have been made in that ammount of time, but if in the space of a few years they could improve augmentations to 100% survival rate for the subjects, then I think it'd easily be feasible to eventually be able to autment anyone at any stage of life.

  • 03.28.2011 8:28 PM PDT
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I thought they would try to upgrade their ODSTs ,since the Spartans have already proved successful.

  • 03.28.2011 8:29 PM PDT

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I thought Halsey had a Mk VII design?

  • 03.28.2011 9:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Metroidman42
I thought Halsey had a Mk VII design?


It was more like a laundry list of things she wanted to do in the future than an actual design.

  • 03.28.2011 9:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Metroidman42
I thought Halsey had a Mk VII design?

Yes, she had. The design was on Reach so it could be considered pretty much lost with every other important thing after the Fall of Reach.

  • 03.28.2011 9:12 PM PDT
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As time goes on, augmentations get safer, armour would get more powerful and cheaper to produce as materials develop, and energy technology would shoot off on a ridiculous discovery scope.

I'm seeing the Spartan-IV program to be an army of highly trained, stronger-than-Spartan II's, well-equipped supersoldiers.

You heard it here first, people.

  • 03.29.2011 3:12 AM PDT
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the more spartans they mamke the less special they are

  • 03.29.2011 4:47 AM PDT

Educated always wins.

Knowing 343's taste, it's highly probable.

I'd like the next game to allow me to fight along other spartan's(eg. not just noble team) and introduce new characters throughout - plot to deepenand make a kick-ass sequel.

  • 03.29.2011 6:29 AM PDT
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Assuming that sometime after Halo 3 the UNSC finds some reason to need a new generation of spartans what do you think they'll be like?

Small groups of very expensive, highly effecient soldiers with top of the line armor like the II's.

Large groups of cheaper, expendible but still very efficient soldiers with cheap armor like the III's.

Or something else like finding a way to augment adults and recruiting volunteers.


I created SPARTAN-IV's a while back. They were part of my clan and video series. Faster, stronger, and all around better than S-II or S-III. I made sure to use the original components from S-II augmentation and revamped them with some components I made myself while still trying to make canononical sense. Everything went well, even training had been upgraded so they learned everything they needed in as little as 6 months.

  • 03.29.2011 7:34 AM PDT

the majority of Gamma company is either dead or trapped alongside blue team in a dilison sphere

  • 04.21.2011 8:04 PM PDT

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It's highly unlikely for there to be a Spartan IV program in the near-future of the end of the war.
Why would there be more Spartans?

  • 04.21.2011 8:57 PM PDT

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I think the Spartan III program would still be available, I don't see why replace the Spartans III, there is still a whole company out there, probably protecting the few Inner colonys still intact?

  • 04.21.2011 9:01 PM PDT

Here's something someone named II Power III came up with. Any reason why this would make a crappy spartan IV, name me atleast three reasons.



although it is not known exactly who authorized the creation of the Spartan IV program, many point to the The Committee of Minds for Security as the creator. This was most likely done by giving redirecting small amount of money from within the UNSC's and ONI's already highly secretive defense research and development projects.

The Spartan IV program was designed to fulfill any extremely high value operations that could not be effectively eliminated by a Spartan III task force. Such operations included high value assassinations, sabotage, and other non conventional military operations.

The Spartan IV program was unique from other Spartans programs for a number of reasons, but mainly because it was under Section 0 leadership. This was done to ensure the safety of the information. Also it allowed for Section 0 to have access to a Spartan group in the event they needed to eliminate people located with the UNSC and ONI, such as but not limited to defectors, spies, and rogue operatives.

The Spartan IV program was planned to have two classes, the first consisting of only one candidate, with the following class to enter training once the first class underwent augmentation. This never occurred because the second class was cancelled when the full expenses of the first class were seen. This sole Spartan IV cost as much as seven Spartan IIs.

Unlike the Spartan II and Spartan III programs, candidates for the Spartan IV program were not abducted as children. Instead, ONI search public medical records to find a male and female who had genes were 99.99953 percent perfect for the augmentations that this Spartan would undergo. Once the male and female were found, they were both abducted by ONI Section 0 agents. The abductions were made to appear as murders, in which an innocent person was framed for murder, tried, and sentenced. Following the abduction of the parents, they forced the artificial insemination of the female with the male genes. After the child was born, both parents were placed in cryo indefinitely, in case they wanted to make more children with that couple.

The child who was given the legal name John Doe was then raised by ONI, who allowed him to make strong social connections to his training staff. He was noted as thinking of them as his family. This John entered military training at age 5, and at age 7 underwent augmentation.

He underwent the same augmentations that the prior generations of Spartans underwent, however, with new technology, his augmentations' were 35 percent more effective that on the prior generations. Also he received the four augmentations that Dr. Halsey had planned for the Spartan IIs, but were never effected do to their failure rates. Most notably, John received a neural augmentation that increased his mental capacity as well as his I.Q. by around 47 percent, scoring around 215 on most test.

From age 7 9 he underwent military training that paralleled what fully grown ODST, and later in his training, Spartan IIs, and Spartan IIIs, endured. During this time he still had very strong emotional connections to his training staff, which had been with him since birth. This was all according to plan.

From age 10 to age 15, John underwent training in how to survive extreme interrogation and torture techniques used by the UNSC, Insurrectionist, and the Covenant, including the infamous Brute torture techniques. This period however, was also used to destroy any moral set, or personality that he had developed prior to this point in his life. The training was done by a joint ONI Section 0, and Covenant training group. Almost all of the interrogation and torture was performed by, or overseen by the same people who he had grown close to during his childhood. This was intended to destroy any ability to truly trust someone, and to see how they used people, so that he may do the same.

Following the five years of torture, at the age of 16 he underwent one year of medical recovery. He had sustained extremely severe injuries from this training. Notably, he sustained third degree plasma burns over 95 percent of his skin within the first year of training, which was not allowed to be attended to until the training was complete. Also, he had multiple deep lacerations into his skin. However the most damaged part of him was his soul. One of his trainers commented, "A child with great promise entered training, a killing machine left, what have been done?" Following a year of reparative surgeries, including massive skin replacement, he was sent back to combat training.

From the age 17 23, He underwent training in all of the current weapons systems supported by the UNSC and Covenant, as well as the small arsenal used by the Insurrectionist. His training was notably more intense then that experienced by the Spartan II or Spartan III classes. He passed this training with ease, trainers noted that he never questioned their orders, and never complained of a heavy work load. His trainers also noted a complete lack of compassion.

From the age 24 25, John started to serve on behalf of ONI. During his first assignment, he was tasked with killing a Rebel leader who planned to release a biological weapon in the planet Earth. While the operation was planned to be 7200 Hours long, he completed the mission in only 1900 Hours, by passing through multiple secure areas that were deemed extremely hazardous, as well as making a lethal shot from over 3.7 kilometers using the M99 Special Application Scoped Rifle, in winds of over 75km do to a hurricane.

In response to the recent declarations of war against the UNSC, John has been tasked with creating a squad in order to complete even more dangerous missions, Although t still remains to be seen how he will works in a team, most ONI operatives familiar with him say that he will have minimal trouble with the change.



[Edited on 04.21.2011 9:25 PM PDT]

  • 04.21.2011 9:20 PM PDT

Yeah... that one wasn't that great.

I mean, base idea = interesting. Execution = terrible as hell.

  • 04.22.2011 6:25 PM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

Posted by: MegaMuffin16
I feel like at an undisclosed point in the future every soldier will become Spartan IV's, much like Spartan IIIs. Volunteers only, minimal surgery. The new MJOLNIR standard for all Spartan IVs makes them better than IIIs.


I agree.

Remember Ackerson, when trying to convince Parangoski and the other ONI official to run his SIII project, said that perhaps one day, the augmentations could target probably even the general populace?

Well, I'd assume the SIV project would be able to do this or get pretty close to including the general population.

  • 04.22.2011 6:31 PM PDT

Well its nice to see that people still bash... I mean talk, about my idea 4+ months after I left. I always found the arguments against it to be comical at best.

  • 04.22.2011 6:37 PM PDT


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Well its nice to see that people still bash... I mean talk, about my idea 4+ months after I left. I always found the arguments against it to be comical at best.


Well if you are who I think you are, II Power III. I want to know what the reaction to your crappy as hell take on spartan IV's would be. As a matter of fact, the same was done with your nova tipped mac rounds.

  • 04.22.2011 6:41 PM PDT