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Subject: YOUR Halo ship: Haloverse realistic only

@ previous post: Covenant plasma burns at least 6000 degrees C, and can concivibly be much higher. Also, tungsten is a fairly rare metal, probably better used for ammunition.


Anyway,
I've gotten a bit better with Sketchup, and so I re-worked my design. It's rough and still unfinished, and I'm not sure if I like the proportions, but it gives a better indication of the overall shape then the last one I uploaded.

This time I out in a Forerunner dreadnought for scale, it's easier to see and I think more appropriate.

Weaponship Scale 2

[Edited on 04.16.2011 6:13 PM PDT]

  • 04.16.2011 6:10 PM PDT

looking more interesting, is the 'ring' part like a small scale halo built into the ship? relax as well, I cannot use Sketchup at all hardly, its too damned fiddly! should try using Blender its totally free and can produce some stunning model if you put the effort in.

how do we know how hot Covenant plasma is, since in the world of today Plasma Cutters can reach 12,500*C and sometimes even higher, and that is with our primitive technology. also a while back at the Z machine they make plasma that was 2 BILLION! degrees kelvin, which is pretty hot, too hot for Titanium or Tungsten for sure! :-)

  • 04.16.2011 6:37 PM PDT

Thanks for the tip, I'll give Blender a look. As for the ship my original idea for the entire story was "What if the Forerunner made a portable, less-powerful Halo, and what would happen if humans and Covenant found out about it?"

As for how we know the temperature of Covenant plasma, I think it's stated early on in Ghosts of Onyx.

  • 04.16.2011 6:44 PM PDT

would imagine it would be one sought after ship, especially if it had other weapons as well, to defend itself from normal threats like enemy ships and what not...doomsday machines are always fun!

  • 04.16.2011 6:46 PM PDT

No other weapons on the ship itself, but the 7.5 million Sentinels that escort and protect it sure do.

  • 04.16.2011 6:52 PM PDT

^?

  • 04.16.2011 6:59 PM PDT
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UNSC: A Soldier's Bane
Hull Classification: A trooper saluting with a weapon
CLASS: Heavy Cruiser, a heavily-modified Marathon-class
Manufacturer: UNSC Navy
Created: August 22rd, 2554
Length: 1,260 meters
Width: 670 meters
Height: 504 meters
Engine unit(s): Hybrid Fusion Drive(1) and secondary deuterium drives (2)
Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Mark II
Power Plant[/b]: Anti-Matter Reactor (1) and secondary Nuclear fission reactors (2)
Shielding: Shielding; Can resist up to two plasma torpedoes.
Hull: 2.8 meters of Titanium-A Battle-Plate; hardened carbon carbide under-skin
Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: Smart A.I: Helge
Armaments:
Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (2)- Heavy Variant fires 900-tonnage super hardened tungsten; electromagnetic pulse device inside of core. Light variant fires 500 ton, ferric depleted uranium-tungsten rounds.
Shiva Nuclear Warheads (3)
NOVA Nuclear Warheads (1) for emergency reasons.
Over-sized Archer Missiles Pods- Note: Each over-sized Pods consists 60 missiles each. (32)
50mm Point Defense Guns (30)
Pulse Lasers (10)
Experimental Plasma Turrets-Torpedoes(8)- Three turrets on each of side.
Complement:
450 Navy Personnel
2200 Marines
200 ODSTs
Mark II Pelicans
Many more
MBT Scorpion (later A8 Tiger)
Warthogs- variant: Scouts, LAAG, Troop Transport, Guass and Rockets.
Ammunition complements
Supplies complements

History:

It was created in August 23rd, 2554 among with new battle-group would be eventually led by a SPARTAN-II Commando. It will act as second-in command of Savior of the Damned and provide supportive fire and escort marines to the ground to capture any high importance value target or objective.


[Edited on 04.20.2011 5:51 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 2:41 AM PDT

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

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United Rebel Front Vessel: Damocles
Hull Classification: This, but on fire.
CLASS: Freighter, outfitted with cobbled together sensor packages and a stealth system sent from an unknown benefactor.
Manufacturer: URF Militia
Created: January 24th 2545
Length: 120 meters
Width: 30 meters
Height: 37.5 meters
Engine unit(s): Fusion Drive, can be overclocked for 30 minutes to provide the best possible speed boost.
Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Mark IIr (r means it has been customised by Insurrectionist Scientists.)
Power Plant[/b]: Fusion-Fission custom drive, designed before the one installed on the Pillar of Autumn, funded again by the unknown benefactor.
Hull: 1 metre of Titanium-A Battle-Plate, painted in the insurrectionist white and red.
Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: Smart A.I: Shirley
Armaments: Point Defense guns, ECM Mines, 1 Havok nuclear mine. (The reactor itself can be used as a last ditch weapon.)
Complement:
20 Rebels, armed with various guns.
1 MKII Viper, a hand built fighter resembling one from a pre spaceflight era tv show, used for close space support.
1 Stolen Pelican, used as a transport, stripped of all the essentials, such as weapons and seats.

History:
In 2545 the Damocles was fit for the scrapyard, until it was noticed by one Joshua Rose, a little known insurrection scientist. He took it upon himself to build the fastest ship in the known galaxy, so that the Innies could communicate with each other without sending cryptic messages through UNSC controlled lines.

Captained by one Alex Shaw, this ship became infamous throughout the UNSC, as the ship no one could catch, and famous throughout the colonies as a symbol of resistance against "the Man." Songs were written about it, legends were born.

During the Human-Covenant war, the UNSC tried to get in contact with Shaw, asking him if he'd help the war effort in return for a full pardon. He accepted, on one condition, that he be tried for ALL insurrectionist crimes at the end of the war, and all other insurrectionists would be released from prison with a letter of apology. The UNSC Brass agreed to this, but only if the released insurrectionists would take up arms against the bigger threat. The militia helped, but only until they could disappear, hoping that one day Shaw would reunite them with their families.

Near the end of the war, Shaw was reported missing, presumed KIA while extracting civilians off of Reach in the days before it burned.

This is close to the truth. He faded into the inky blackness of space, to go and find Admiral Preston Cole. To this day, no one has seen him or his crew...

Some say he found Cole. Some say Cole was his unknown benefactor.


[Edited on 04.17.2011 2:01 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 2:00 PM PDT

Interesting, I don't think there's been an Insurrectionist ship here before. I like the "hand built fighter resembling one from a pre-spaceflight era TV show."

  • 04.17.2011 3:14 PM PDT
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UNSC: Arabahaki
Hull Classification: Lion-heart on Shield
CLASS: Heavy Frigate; Terror-Class
Manufacturer: UNSC Navy
Created: August 15th, 2554
Length: 478 meters
Width: 151.9 meters
Height: 112.3 meters
Engine unit(s): Fusion Drives(4)
Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Mark II
Power Plant: Thermonuclear Fusion Reactor Mk.II (1)
Shielding: None
Hull: 1.45 meters of Titanium-A Battle-Plate; hardened carbon carbide under-skin
Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: AI/Nav Computer
Armaments:
Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (1)- Heavy Variant- fires 650 ton ferric super-hardened tungsten slugs, able to fire two shots per charge due to new reactor.
Shiva Nuclear Warheads (3)
Archer Missiles Mk. II Pods- Note: Each over-sized Pods consists 30 missiles each.(40) That's 1200 missiles total
50mm Point Defense Guns (16)
Pulse Lasers (6)
Experimental Plasma Turrets-Torpedoes(4)- two on each side of Frigate.
Complement:
125 Navy Personnel
250 Marines
35 ODSTs
Mark II Pelican (4)
A8 MBT Tiger (4)
Warthogs (10)
Ammunition complements
Supplies complements

History:

It was constructed with newly created Battle-group; will serve with Savior of the Damned, Soft-Heartened Devil and A Soldier's Bane. The purpose of this Frigate is to assist with air support/artillery support for the ground forces, also can be used as scouting party.

UNSC: Shadow's Dusk
Hull Classification: Assassin's Cloak
CLASS: Heavy Stealth Prowler
Manufacturer: UNSC Navy
Created: August 9th, 2554
Length: 208 meters
Width: 75 meters
Height: 82 meters
Engine unit(s): Fusion Drives(4)
Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Mark II
Power Plant: Thermonuclear Fusion Reactor Mk.II (1)
Shielding: None
Hull: 60cm (2.0 FT) of Titanium-A Battle-Plate; hardened carbon carbide under-skin; coated with stealth ablative coating.
Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: AI/Nav Computer
Armaments:
Experimental Plasma Torpedoes (2)
Pulse Lasers (6)
Nuclear HORNET Mines (18)
Shiva Nuclear Missiles (2)
Complement:
90 Navy Personnel
Counter-Measures:
* Ablative baffles
* Counter-electronic systems
* Matte black ablative stealth coating
* Texture buffers
* Stealth ablative coating

History:

Traditionally every battle-group had a prowler for scouting, gathering intelligence and setting up traps. So, this new class of prowler was created; Shadow's Dusk was to serve under its flagship Savior of the Damned as central intelligence gather/saboteur.

[Edited on 04.20.2011 5:52 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 4:15 PM PDT

^You seem to be assembling a set of ships. Are these specs for an individual craft, or are they specs for a class of vessels?

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Yes, its for individual crafts. Why, I recently made heavy stealth prowler. You can see it yourself.

I'm creating a battle-group, consisting twenty-one ships in 2557. (its for my story)

  • 04.17.2011 4:58 PM PDT

27 ships? Damn, I create three and thought that was a lot of work.

  • 04.17.2011 5:10 PM PDT

About me: I am a vicious wolf of a man.

But really am sweet at heart. =)

Name: USS Arizona
Hull Number:BB-077
Image: A Shiva missile
Length: 890 meters
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Class: Battleship
Hull Type: Battleship
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Powerplant: 4 Mark II Fusion Ion Cooled Experimental XPSC-21B
Each produces 1.75 the output of a standard UNSC Fusion drive

3 Mark II Shaw Fujikawa UNSC Military Slipspace drives
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Armor: 2.8 Meters Titanium A Battleplate, 1.4 meters PR/AB Plasma Resistant/ Ablasive Coating

Armament: 6 Mark 5 MAC Guns, 340 Archer Missile Pods, 5 Shiva nuclear missiles, 56 Mark 8 Deck Guns, 120 20mm AAA Guns
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Complement: 800 crewmen, 150 Officers, 300 Marines
20 Pelicans, 3 Calypso Scout Craft.
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Up until 2530, the idea of a nearly kilometer long ship used in large scale combat seemed far off. The first attempt: the UNSC Trafalgar, while hypothetically successful, also nearly bankrupted the shipyards at Reach, and it's large surface area meant it needed huge engines to make a good speed. It's 10 Mark II Fusion Reactors made it a very hot ship and easy to track, thus it's deployment areas were very limited.

The idea of a large ship has now come to life however in the form of the Daedalus[i] Class Battleship. Using captured Covenant technology and a new prototype reactor, this ship is as manuverable as a [i]United States class cruiser with four times as much armor. Of it's 800 man crew, 300 are devoted just to it's weapons systems, another 100 for their care.

This class can take on multiple Covenant ships at the same time with minimal damage done to the ship. However, it's large size and payloads make it very expensive, and only three ships of this class are to be built. The Daedalus, the Arizona, and the Queen Elizabeth.

  • 04.17.2011 5:14 PM PDT
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Lol! I said 21 ships. I already created three so... I guess 18 more to go. I'm very creative person. Perhaps you can be creative too. It's really fun to do this. It encourages you to think, which it can improve your brain better.

I'm working on new ship type: Battleship or Battle-Carrier. (I'm still figuring out how to measure their size, thickness of hull, usage of reactors, weapon system and how many personnel were required to work.) Also, using hull materials such as ablative armor, Titanium-A Battle-Plate, Ceramic-Titanium Armor, depleted uranium or Chobham or RH armor is bit tough to debate myself to use for BS and BC.

[Edited on 04.17.2011 5:21 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 5:14 PM PDT

Evidently I had a bit of a brain fart. Anyway, it's not that I lack creativity, the story I'm writting just happens to revolve around a smaller part of the conflict.

  • 04.17.2011 5:27 PM PDT
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UNSC: Lucifer's Will
Hull Classification: Devil's Fist
CLASS: Heavy Carrier
Manufacturer: UNSC Navy
Created: September 11th, 2557
Length: 2,890 meters
Width: 450 meters
Height: 375 meters
Engine unit(s): Primary Hybrid Fusion Drive (1) Fusion Drives(8)
Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Trans-light Engine Mark II
Power Plant:
Enhanced Thermonuclear Fission Reactor(1)
Secondary Nuclear Fusion reactors (uses deuterium) (2)
Shielding: Limited; Covenant Bubble-like shield, can hold up to two direct plasma hits before it collapses.
Hull: 2.5 meters of Titanium-A Battle-plate, 1 meters of anti-plasma ablative coating, 1 meter of composite armor (Chobham Mk.II); hardened carbon carbide under-skin (consisting total of 3.5 meters thick of armor)
Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: AI/Nav Computer
Armaments:
Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (2)- Heavy Variants- fires 900 ton ferrous super-hardened tungsten slugs, able to fire two shots (Each MAC) per charge due to enhanced reactors.
Shiva Nuclear Warheads (6)
NOVA Nuclear Warhead (1)
Archer Missiles Mk. II Pods- Note: Each over-sized Pods consists 60 missiles each.(85)
50mm Point Defense Guns (28)
Pulse Lasers (12)
Experimental Plasma Turrets-Torpedoes(12)
Complement:
2,200 Navy Personnel
The Marine Regiment(2)
A Battalion of ODST
Mark II Pelican (75)
A8 MBT Tiger (120)
Warthogs (220)
Ammunition complements (Many Variants)
Supplies complements (Many Variants)

History:

Since UNSC Fleet Command felt that if this battle-group would not survive without a formidable carrier, despite advanced battle-cruiser; Savior of the Damned as flagship, they decided to implement only a one carrier to this battle-group to improve their survival prowess. This heavy carrier is designed for ship-to-ship combat; planetary invasion; and also sort of repairing and ammo refit. Also it can be used as carrier of longswords and sabres.

[Edited on 04.17.2011 6:27 PM PDT]

  • 04.17.2011 6:21 PM PDT

GROSSMAN: Do you think of the Culture as a utopia? Would you live in it, if you could?

BANKS: Good grief yes, to both! What's not to like? ...Well, unless you're actually a fascist or a power junkie or sincerely believe that money rather than happiness is what really matters in life. And even people with those bizarre beliefs are catered for in the Culture, albeit in extreme-immersion VR environments.

KOTOR

Posted by: Omanisat
Interesting, I don't think there's been an Insurrectionist ship here before. I like the "hand built fighter resembling one from a pre-spaceflight era TV show."


Yeah, I decided I wasn't a fan of the way the UNSC operated after reading a few of the books, and I'm not an alien lover, so there was only one place for me to go.

Plus everyone goes for over the top ships, so I thought I'd be different...

Not being stupid, but thinking like an Insurrectionist while watching the events of Halo Reach unfold changed my perspective of it.

  • 04.19.2011 4:05 AM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: Omanisat
@ previous post: Covenant plasma burns at least 6000 degrees C, and can concivibly be much higher. Also, tungsten is a fairly rare metal, probably better used for ammunition.


Anyway,
I've gotten a bit better with Sketchup, and so I re-worked my design. It's rough and still unfinished, and I'm not sure if I like the proportions, but it gives a better indication of the overall shape then the last one I uploaded.

This time I out in a Forerunner dreadnought for scale, it's easier to see and I think more appropriate.

Weaponship Scale 2

In one of the books (I believe it was First Strike) they state that Covenant plasma weaponry is heated to about 3000 degrees centigrade, so 6000 degrees is not correct. Also, I wasn't suggesting building the entire ship out of tungsten, just an outer layer maybe 1 Meter thick, to absorb the heat.

  • 04.19.2011 10:43 AM PDT

surely that is the figure for the hand held Covenant plasma weapons, since that is nothing! some Refractory materials can survive that without melting, so armour that could just 'shrug' of the plasma impact would make their weapons pretty useless. would guess the ship mounted weapons generate much higher energy levels = much hotter plasma or else they are pretty crappy, just coat the outside of your ship with ceramic armour and laugh as the Covenant plasma weapons do nothing but make scorch marks!

  • 04.19.2011 11:43 AM PDT
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Yes I'm fairly young. No, that doesn't mean I'm automatically dumber than you or have less life experience, thats just generally the case. I am not your general case.

Posted by: PLUT0NIUM 235
surely that is the figure for the hand held Covenant plasma weapons, since that is nothing! some Refractory materials can survive that without melting, so armour that could just 'shrug' of the plasma impact would make their weapons pretty useless. would guess the ship mounted weapons generate much higher energy levels = much hotter plasma or else they are pretty crappy, just coat the outside of your ship with ceramic armour and laugh as the Covenant plasma weapons do nothing but make scorch marks!

i can't really say anything about ship based weaponry and neither can you, as they never state whether it was ship board plasma cannons or infantry weaponry, just that it burns at 3000 degrees centigrade. i would not be suprised if it actually did, as the Covenant doesn't truly understand much of their equipment, only that it works, as they did not desighn there weapons, simply copied Forerunner design. Hell, they could be using the forerunner equivlent to a lightbulb as there shipboard weaponry.

  • 04.19.2011 12:49 PM PDT
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UNSC:Final Rest

Hull Classification: grim reaper

CLASS: Light Cruiser

Manufacturer: UNSC Navy

Created: May 8th, 2559

Length: 1,250 meters

Width: meters

Height: 389 meters

Engine unit(s): Deuterium Core Reactor(1) and secondary fusion drives (2)

Slip Space Drive: Shaw-Fujikawa Translight Engine Mark II

Power Plant: Deuterium reactors

Shielding:light, can take 3 plasma torpetos

Hull: 252 centimeter of Titanium-A Battle-Plate

Navigation Systems/Electronic Systems: Smart AI, 2 "Dumb" A.Is

Armaments:Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (1)- Modified varient fires 3 shots per full charge. Shiva Nuclear Warheads (4).
Over-sized Archer Missiles Pods(35)
50mm Point Defense Guns (40)

Complement:Pelecan transports(3) Longsword Interceptor. Marines(50) Naval Crew(250) bumblebee lifeboats(40)for any extra passengers.

  • 04.19.2011 6:29 PM PDT