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Subject: The forerunners lacking forsight

I was reading the halo wiki and learned how the forunners treated the flood as a disease more than an enemy that fight and eats to the death. And then while playing through halo ce I thought why on bungies green halo did the forerunners even keep any of the flood alive maybe if they thought for seven seconds they would have realized that they should have taken the flood more seriously."oh wait if one of these can destroy a planet why not we preserve thousands of flood infection forms".....qouted from a forerunner lacking forsight. Let us also not forget some unwise humans and elites let us start off with a captured elite who told captain keyes that a certain swampy area contained a weapons cache some where around that time some elites and or grunts or maybe jackels unleashed some flood said covenant then got infected. Then one smart member of the covenant decided to lock the door to the flood research facility and probably was the elite we all saw with a splatterd open chest. let us also not forget keyes and some marines that decide to open previously mentioned locked door then they get infected (except for johnson) and most of halo gets infected. In conclusion the forerunners were lacking foresight and the armed forces of each side do not know what to keep locked up.

[Edited on 03.30.2011 5:45 PM PDT]

  • 03.30.2011 5:44 PM PDT

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  • 03.30.2011 6:01 PM PDT

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By the end of the Forerunner-Flood war the Forerunners were taking the Flood very seriously. You can't take anything more seriously than killing off the entire galaxy to stop it. The Forerunners keeping extra infection forms is similar to the U.S. and Russia keeping vials of smallpox. They keep them for study in case the disease were to ever come back. Keeping the Flood on a halo ring was a brilliant idea, if it escapes fire the ring to make sure it doesn't cause another galaxy wide pandemic.

Earlier in the history of the Flood the Forerunners showed an amazing lack of foresight after defeating the humans. They were so intent of punishing the race that had dared to defy them that they devolved them. They ignored what the Flood had done to humanity and the fact that humanity had been able to beat it. The Forerunners didn't keep their proverbial vial of smallpox and let humanity stay, at least for their knowledge. This came back to haunt them in a very big empire ending way.

  • 03.30.2011 6:01 PM PDT

Posted by: Commander GX
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The thing I found odd was that in the CE mission, the Library, at one point, Spark is happy that some of the Flood survived, and then he continually tries to kill them. My question is, If the Forerunners wanted to destroy the flood, why keep some of them preserved?

  • 03.30.2011 6:02 PM PDT


Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
The thing I found odd was that in the CE mission, the Library, at one point, Spark is happy that some of the Flood survived, and then he continually tries to kill them. My question is, If the Forerunners wanted to destroy the flood, why keep some of them preserved?

Because it was of unknown or extragalactic origin, and the Forerunner weren't sure if they could prevent a future arrival of the Flood anyway. So, they decided to continue research on it in the hopes that they might discover a good general solution.

Or something.

  • 03.30.2011 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
My question is, If the Forerunners wanted to destroy the flood, why keep some of them preserved?

I know it's two paragraphs long, but I addressed this in my previous post. It's basically like the U.S. and Russia keeping small vials of smallpox. Nobody wants those vials to break and start another pandemic, but they keep the vials for study just in case. Same idea with the Flood.

  • 03.30.2011 6:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Commander GX
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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
My question is, If the Forerunners wanted to destroy the flood, why keep some of them preserved?

I know it's two paragraphs long, but I addressed this in my previous post. It's basically like the U.S. and Russia keeping small vials of smallpox. Nobody wants those vials to break and start another pandemic, but they keep the vials for study just in case. Same idea with the Flood.


Sorry, but I posted that before I saw your post, and I haven't checked back.

  • 03.30.2011 7:20 PM PDT

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One final effort is all that remains
And I am not afraid
We shall fulfill our promise
We fight for the grace of the Mantle
And this time none of you will be left behind

Think it's fair to let you know that everything that follows is pure speculation.

Were the Forerunners necessarily preserving the Flood? I do find it likely that early in the war they would attempt to research the enemy (that just makes sense), but that doesn't mean that they would willingly allow the Flood to survive.

Keep in mind that Halos don't attack the Flood, but its food. And that the only place for the flood to survive would be on a Halo.

The only flood found on Installation 04 was in a previously inaccessible area. That could mean the Forerunners locked up some research specimens. It could mean that a crazed Guilty Spark locked up specimens.
Or it could mean that the only surviving flood were the ones that were unreachable by Sentinels.

[Edited on 03.30.2011 7:34 PM PDT]

  • 03.30.2011 7:33 PM PDT

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Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man

Posted by: CTN 0452 9
Posted by: M94 Mushroom Man
My question is, If the Forerunners wanted to destroy the flood, why keep some of them preserved?

I know it's two paragraphs long, but I addressed this in my previous post. It's basically like the U.S. and Russia keeping small vials of smallpox. Nobody wants those vials to break and start another pandemic, but they keep the vials for study just in case. Same idea with the Flood.


Sorry, but I posted that before I saw your post, and I haven't checked back.

Dude, don't worry about it. You had a good question and it's the end of a longer thought about something foresight lacking that the Forerunners did.

On topic: I'm pretty sure the Flood kept on the rings (04 and 05) were kept in hibernation in slipspace, not wandering around on the installation.

  • 03.30.2011 7:44 PM PDT

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  • 03.30.2011 8:15 PM PDT

"The last cases of smallpox in the world occurred in an outbreak of two cases (one of which was fatal) in Birmingham, UK in 1978. A medical photographer, Janet Parker, contracted the disease at the University of Birmingham Medical School and died on September 11, 1978,[70] after which the scientist responsible for smallpox research at the university, Professor Henry Bedson, committed suicide.[2] In light of this accident, all known stocks of smallpox were destroyed or transferred to one of two WHO reference laboratories which had BSL-4 facilities"

  • 03.31.2011 10:06 AM PDT

It does make sense that the flood would kept locked up maybe spark noticed the covenant showing up maybe thought they would do something stupid and wanted to unleash the sentinels, but instead unleashed the flood. When I was reading halo the flood the book stated that another soldier was sent to activate the ring but was killed half way through it was stated that his body was mutilated beyond even the floods use, my guess is he thought why does spark not activate the ring he asks spark why and old 343 said hmm a little to curious then he kills him now here is where it all ties together. I bet the forerunners set it so monitors if making to many mistakes would auto destruct so spark may have been at strike two and decided to not let the chief know to much so he left some parts of the story out, this would make more sense since spark was already under investigation for rampancy or maybe the slipspace hybernation tubes were going to be used to store forerunners but spark was crazy so he stored flood these are just a few ideas as to why the flood went loose.

  • 03.31.2011 3:48 PM PDT
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Nobody said that the Forerunners could do no wrong, they weren't infallible. Oh and can you please add paragraphs?

  • 03.31.2011 4:10 PM PDT