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Subject: I got some questions about HALO for the all knowing people

-why does a spartan 2 cost so much money, the covenants have thousands of elites and brutes with the same technology, how could they afford to that

-the field marshall and chieftains in reach had sick shielding,
why didnt master chief have the same shields

-what happened to the field marshalls after the rank were removed from the covenant

-why did the covenant waste all their skirmishers at reach

-do the elites have that kind of blue stuff in them like the spartans, and why does a spartan suit weight so much, the arbiter only have small amounts of armor, but he still have the same shielding as master chief

-why cant elites and spartans dual wield swords, they are not that heavy

-it seems like master chief and the arbiter is getting weaker from H2 to H3, because suddenly they cant dual wield the needler, why?

-spartan 3`s cant dual wield, because their HUD isnt made for it, is it so expensive to add something to the HUD

  • 04.04.2011 10:52 AM PDT

Posted by: Skibur
inb4 everyone.

Oh... sorry.

OT: A lot of that is game mechnics not canon.

[Edited on 04.04.2011 10:58 AM PDT]

  • 04.04.2011 10:56 AM PDT

sorry, I am not English

  • 04.04.2011 10:57 AM PDT

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Well Elites and Brutes don't need augmentation to be the strength that they are so cost is not an Issue.

Spartan 3's are just a bit smaller/less well trained than the Spartan 2's, this was the excuses for the lack of dual wielding.

You will notice that even though Elites are larger and more powerful than in the past games that when controlled by the player they still cannot dual wield.

  • 04.04.2011 11:05 AM PDT
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Posted by: talz321
-why does a spartan 2 cost so much money, the covenants have thousands of elites and brutes with the same technology, how could they afford to that
A: The covinent was more advanced then the humans. How? Forerunner Tech.
-the field marshall and chieftains in reach had sick shielding,
why didnt master chief have the same shields
A:Same as the above.

-what happened to the field marshalls after the rank were removed from the covenant. Brutes or elites?

-why did the covenant waste all their skirmishers at reach.
*Unknown*

-do the elites have that kind of blue stuff in them like the spartans, and why does a spartan suit weight so much, the arbiter only have small amounts of armor, but he still have the same shielding as master chief
A: Forerunner tech.


-why cant elites and spartans dual wield swords, they are not that heavy.
A: Balance the game?

-it seems like master chief and the arbiter is getting weaker from H2 to H3, because suddenly they cant dual wield the needler, why?
They seem the same to me. Infact, stronger.

-spartan 3`s cant dual wield, because their HUD isnt made for it, is it so expensive to add something to the HUD.
Well it Can be quite expensive. Also i don't think the S3's were trained to.

  • 04.04.2011 11:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: talz321
-why does a spartan 2 cost so much money, the covenants have thousands of elites and brutes with the same technology, how could they afford to that

The cost was the Mjolnir armour. It cost about the same as a Frigate I believe. The reason why this technology was so expensive was probably due to its experimental nature. A lot of man hours would have been put into developing it. A lot of new development techniques may have to have been researched as well. The Covenant have been developing this technology for thousands of years, so they will not have these problems. They will not have to pour money into research and testing.

They also rely on slave labour. All technological developments are done through the use of Huragok, which do not require a wage. All of the Covenants materials are probably acquired through the use of Grunt labour. I cannot imagine Grunts would get a very good salary, if anything.

The reason why augmentations were not widespread is because a specific rare gene marker was required in Humans in order for the Spartan-II augments to be successful. If you did not have these markers then the results were disastrous to the patient. The Spartan III augments may be applied to the whole populace due to advances in genetics, it was mentioned in Ghosts of Onyx.

Posted by: talz321
-the field marshall and chieftains in reach had sick shielding,
why didnt master chief have the same shields

I think that is just gameplay. It was mentioned in First Strike that the Mjolnir Mk V shielding was more efficient than the Sangheili counterpart. The Spartan shields were a testament to Human ingenuity were Covenant technology was re-purposed and improved upon.

Posted by: talz321
-what happened to the field marshalls after the rank were removed from the covenant

I do not know why Bungie decided to convolute the Sangheili's ranking system but I assume that they still exist after Reach. It is just that we do not see them. Just because we do not see them does not mean that they do not exist. We do not see Zealots in Halo 3 either.

Posted by: talz321
-why did the covenant waste all their skirmishers at reach

Where was it stated that they did so?

Posted by: talz321
-do the elites have that kind of blue stuff in them like the spartans,

Blue stuff?

Posted by: talz321
and why does a spartan suit weight so much, the arbiter only have small amounts of armor, but he still have the same shielding as master chief

Mjolnir has a lot more functions than Arby's armour. Also, Covenant have had longer to develop this stuff.

Posted by: talz321
-why cant elites and spartans dual wield swords, they are not that heavy

They can. Rtas fights with two swords in the Halo Graphic Novel.

Posted by: talz321
-it seems like master chief and the arbiter is getting weaker from H2 to H3, because suddenly they cant dual wield the needler, why?

Gameplay. Dual Wielding needlers is extremely OP for MM.

Posted by: talz321
-spartan 3`s cant dual wield, because their HUD isnt made for it, is it so expensive to add something to the HUD

I think that is gameplay as well. There is nothing to stop them from picking up another weapon and firing it. It is just that they will not have aim assist, but I do not think that matters for a Spartan. 6 did it at the end of Reach.

  • 04.04.2011 11:34 AM PDT


Posted by: talz321
-why does a spartan 2 cost so much money, the covenants have thousands of elites and brutes with the same technology, how could they afford to that

-the field marshall and chieftains in reach had sick shielding,
why didnt master chief have the same shields

-what happened to the field marshalls after the rank were removed from the covenant

-why did the covenant waste all their skirmishers at reach

-do the elites have that kind of blue stuff in them like the spartans, and why does a spartan suit weight so much, the arbiter only have small amounts of armor, but he still have the same shielding as master chief

-why cant elites and spartans dual wield swords, they are not that heavy

-it seems like master chief and the arbiter is getting weaker from H2 to H3, because suddenly they cant dual wield the needler, why?

-spartan 3`s cant dual wield, because their HUD isnt made for it, is it so expensive to add something to the HUD



1. Because of the augmentations, and because Humans have only just recently discovered how to use energy shielding, and their methods are not all the affective yet so it costs a lot.

2. The Covenant have had energy shielding for thousands of years, as well as access to the Forerunner tech it was based on, so they have easy ways to improve energy shielding.

3. The Field Marshall rank is still around, it's just not obvious who is or is not a Field Marshall because the armor for the Zealots changed appearance after Reach.

4. They didn't really waste them, the Skirmishers just took very heavy casualties.

5. I'm not entirely sure what you're asking with the first part of this question, sorry :/
Well think about it, they're walking around in full body armor and it has equipment such as the shield generator and other functions for the armor, so it's quite heavy.

6. Only for balance issues in gameplay. They can dual wield swords in canon, like the Arbiter in Halo Wars does this.

7. Needler was removed from dual wielding for balance purposes I would assume, as it was improved in Halo 3, so it wouldn't be fare to carry two of them anymore.

8. Well see, the IIIs weren't really meant to be constantly reused soldiers, they were meant for one single mission and that was it, if they survived enough times, then they were given better armor and equipment. I'm sure that in "real life" they would be dual wielding all the time, whether they had an ammo counter for the second weapon or not. Noble Six does it in the last cutscene of Halo: Reach

  • 04.04.2011 11:43 AM PDT

thank you all, that was very helpful

-but in Halo 4, if they continue master chiefs story and that planet were the forunner planet. would not master chief get pretty owned by the forunner or the flood on that planet because of their technology?

  • 04.04.2011 11:43 AM PDT


Posted by: talz321
thank you all, that was very helpful

-but in Halo 4, if they continue master chiefs story and that planet were the forunner planet. would not master chief get pretty owned by the forunner or the flood on that planet because of their technology?


He's fought Flood before, I'm pretty sure he can do it again :P
As for the Forerunners, I don't see why they would go to war with Humanity again, or fight a human they found, they passed the Mantel on to us, it is likely they would mentor Humanity in what upholding the Mantel entails.

  • 04.04.2011 12:42 PM PDT